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It will be a hybrid, having a simplified desktop, with larger buttons for touch use, an App Store. Will Run iTunes, be able to be synced with a Mac, and can be used to Sync iPod/iPhones with.
 
It will be a hybrid, having a simplified desktop, with larger buttons for touch use, an App Store. Will Run iTunes, be able to be synced with a Mac, and can be used to Sync iPod/iPhones with.

Hybird - Agree, but more iPhone OS-based rather than Mac OS X-based
iTunes? - Why run iTunes when it can run an enhanced iPod.app? Simpler and easier to use.
Sync with a mac - Agree
Sync with an iPod/iPhone - Hmm... you can't have it both ways, its either going to be macs or iPod/iPhones it syncs with. My guess = Macs... but that brings up a good point, how do Windows users sync up? Wait, they'd sync just like Windows iPod owners. No problem there.

You keep saying all of these things unwarranted. While Apple is banning Microsoft software from its products (just like they do on OSX) why don't they get rid of all .wmv playback. Why confuse things even more – don't make another OS?

Ok, Ok, you make a decent point that I was a little irrational saying that the reason Apple wouldn't open it up is due to Word or MSFT, but think about it, would Apple really want to confuse consumers like that by allowing downloading from the internet? Risk/reward is VERY heavily weighted on the risk side, IMHO.

And again, to clarify, this isn't really going to be "another OS". Simply an enhanced version of iPhone OS, nothing crazy to change around, the OS is already pretty amazing.
 
So you open up Microsoft Word, in full-screen portrait mode!
And you want to start typing...
And this, like totally half-transparent keyboard thing pops up on screen.
And you can no longer see where you are typing - cos it's like UNDER THE VIRTUAL KEYBOARD!

C.
The point of this was what again? I'm fairly certain you might be able to adjust the screen size?

Ok, Ok, you make a decent point that I was a little irrational saying that the reason Apple wouldn't open it up is due to Word or MSFT, but think about it, would Apple really want to confuse consumers like that by allowing downloading from the internet? Risk/reward is VERY heavily weighted on the risk side, IMHO.

And again, to clarify, this isn't really going to be "another OS". Simply an enhanced version of iPhone OS, nothing crazy to change around, the OS is already pretty amazing.
I don't see why this would be preferable to anyone. iPhone developers would be open to a nightmare.
 
Ok, I will.


Because existing applications are written for the desktop. They are written for Mac OSX.

They expect a single mouse pointer (with mouse buttons)
They expect an always-there keyboard.

Un-modified, they would suck on a tablet. As Microsoft has demonstrated with the Origami project.

And software just does not modify itself.

My guess is that software compatibility will be a non-issue because you won't be able to shove Mac disks into it. This device will not have a DVD drive. And will not be able to install software from the internet.

It will be App Store only.

C.

explained much better than the OP (which wasn't really a logical way of arguing).. BUT how about a watered down version of OSX? this tablet seems to be right in the middle of both OSX and iPhone OS - how about a mix of the two? what may be a little more telling is that what ever is used will have to go out to dev's so they can start writing apps for it - do we really think iphone/touch OS will work well on a 10" tablet at this point? once it goes out to dev's, i think all of us will know what's going on - but what if nothing goes out to dev's?? i think that would be REALLY interesting.

as well, you don't need to boot off a DVD drive for an OS - supposedly my MBP can get an install from the SD card port, i have read that somewhere, i could be wrong..

just a few things to think about..

i also need to point out is that none of us having any facts (things you can back up with real evidence).. it's amusing how some (only some) at this site speak like they know what's going to come out, none of us do. :)
 
multi-tasking

it will HAVE to do multi-tasking, so at the moment it would have to be something MORE than the iphone OS.
 

I think Harry's guesses sound about right.

Although I think the iPhone UI would look a bit lost trying to fill larger format screen. If it runs more than one app at time, the UI might need a bit of re-jigging.

C.

On an unrelated note.

One problem for webcams is that people look at the image of the person they are talking to. Rather than at the lens of the camera. This means the video chat experience is poor. No eye contact!

Suddenly thought that *two* forward facing cameras on either side of the screen might solve this. Blend the left and right image - and you might be able to synthesize a mid-way image. Restoring eye contact.
 
One problem for webcams is that people look at the image of the person they are talking to. Rather than at the lens of the camera. This means the video chat experience is poor. No eye contact!

Suddenly thought that *two* forward facing cameras on either side of the screen might solve this. Blend the left and right image - and you might be able to synthesize a mid-way image. Restoring eye contact.

Wasn't there some talk about having camera(s) directly behind the LCD? Does anyone remember those rumors? I beleive it may have been about iMacs or MacBooks, but still.
 
For Apple to release a Tablet that operates on a system that is anything less than the system I had back in 2006 is not like Apple at all.

If it actually does exist, the tablet will be a vastly different product to the MBP and will have a different target audience.

Trying to wedge OSX onto it doesn't make sense, especially when Apple already have a tried-and-tested multitouch-based OS ready on the shelf.
 
If it actually does exist, the tablet will be a vastly different product to the MBP and will have a different target audience.

Trying to wedge OSX onto it doesn't make sense, especially when Apple already have a tried-and-tested multitouch-based OS ready on the shelf.

hasn't it already been concluded that the iphone os is already a filtered down os x, therefore the multi-touch is there in os x somewhere? the trackpad is multi-touch, and the whole input concept of a tablet is that the screen is the trackpad.

they cannot strip out finder and file/directory handling. for this reason i see it looking more like os x than the iphone.

and i don't see why word in its current form wouldn't work on a tablet. apple have already covered 1/2 the screen with a keyboard (when needed) in the iphone. why wouldn't they cover a 1/4 or 1/3 on a tablet (again, when needed)? also, for them to "make" developers write code specifically for this device they would have to prove that a) it is popular and b) its long term. i.e they're not going to cut it from their range in a years time if it doesn't take off. that's a little bit different to the iphone, where they waited a year before the app store, and where the market is a lot bigger because so many people have a need for a mobile/cell phone.
 
hasn't it already been concluded that the iphone os is already a filtered down os x, therefore the multi-touch is there in os x somewhere? the trackpad is multi-touch, and the whole input concept of a tablet is that the screen is the trackpad.

iPhone OS is a variant of OS X. The multitouch functionality was most likely added after it was branched from the main OS X release stream. Given this, the two OS's now exist in different release streams and I think it would require a lot of work to merge them again.

In its consumer devices (i.e. iPods, iPhones etc) Apple likes to restrict how much users can do, or rather how much they can inadvertently do wrong.

The tablet screams simplistic UI to me and that ain't OS X.
 
iPhone OS is a variant of OS X. The multitouch functionality was most likely added after it was branched from the main OS X release stream. Given this, the two OS's now exist in different release streams and I think it would require a lot of work to merge them again.

In its consumer devices (i.e. iPods, iPhones etc) Apple likes to restrict how much users can do, or rather how much they can inadvertently do wrong.

The tablet screams simplistic UI to me and that ain't OS X.

os x has multi-touch for its laptop trackpads.

i'd say the imac, mac mini and macbook are consumer products. they even have those "is this your first mac?" links for people moving from PCs.
 
os x has multi-touch for its laptop trackpads.

Good point!

i'd say the imac, mac mini and macbook are consumer products. they even have those "is this your first mac?" links for people moving from PCs.

I'd define a consumer product as being any device I can't bring up a Terminal window on (straight out of the box). :)

Some reasons why this tablet won't have OS X:
  • Apple makes too much money from the AppStore, OS X would let you install whatever you want from wherever you want.
  • There are no rumours about new tablet-friendly versions of existing OS X applications (PhotoShop, MS Word etc).
  • OS X applications would need major retooling to work well in multi-touch. New copy/paste functionality is only the start...
  • Mobile Safari is screaming to be used on this device!
 
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