only way i can see this working is with haptic feedback... and i don't think that is ready yet ,..
Great. Nevertheless your comments did not make that fact apparent. In fact, they suggested the contrary. You seemed to be spending a lot of energy finding ways to criticize something you've never even seen before.
You would type exactly like you do on a Q1 today.
I've use a Q1 and it is not perfect, but ergonomically its no worse than an iPhone.
The same happens today when typing on a netbook or notebook. Even with those devices its not like you can detatch the screen and move it up to eye level where you would normally have a monitor. If you want to sit for a long time and use the tablet, you would attach an external monitor, just as you do with a laptop.
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No, the same thing does not happen with netbooks. It is far worse to be looking straight down for an extended period of time (as you would have to do with a tablet) than to be looking (almost) straight ahead. Both are bad, but the tablet would be worse.
Okay buddy. Yeah, I totally thought that was the real tablet. You got me.![]()
This is a discussion forum.
(pompous remarks removed)
I'm sure Apple is totally going for "not perfect" with this.
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No, the same thing does not happen with netbooks. It is far worse to be looking straight down for an extended period of time (as you would have to do with a tablet) than to be looking (almost) straight ahead. Both are bad, but the tablet would be worse.
I doubt we will see a 1080p screen on the device
The rumored thing is supposed to run the iPhone OS X (mobile OS X).
why would I have a tablet with a blue tooth keyboard. Exactly how is that any better than using your computer.
What could they possibly think up that makes it so different than other tablets on the market?
Except I never made any claim like that. I know that you didn't think it was a photo of the actual forthcoming product. However your criticisms come across as though you know how the real device will function. You sound pretty convinced that the device doesn't make sense - "I just don't see a need for this device". I was just emphasizing out how meaningless that statement really ends up being, since you don't know how "this device" even works yet.
And as you are keenly aware - in a discussion forum, anyone can comment. That includes not just you, but me too. I never asked you to stop posting, nor did I claim I could or would. All I've done is respond to your comments with counter-points, and in a demostrably friendlier fashion than you seem to be capable of, I might add. I suspect that I am not the only one who would like to see you post with a little more maturity.
So are you suggesting that the iPhone is perfect? I don't see how one could conclude such a thing given all the improvements they've made since the debut, and more on the way. The reality is that any portable device faces compromises, even those from Apple. Typing with your thumbs on a tablet would be no less perfect than it already is on an iPhone.
I do agree it will be worse on the tablet. But the tablet could offer other features that make the tradeoff worthwhile, just like the laptop offers features that make it a worthwhile tradeoff vs. a desktop machine. I listed some of those possible features earlier.
I think YOU desire to have the last word.Discussion forum. [--SNIP--] I doubt that a large percentage of people would be buying a portable tablet so that they can carry a keyboard, a mouse, and a tablet stand with them as well. Might as well buy a laptop. [--SNIP--] I don't see the need to continue with this off-topic back-and-forth. If you so desire to have the last word, feel free to respond to this post. You are no longer amusing to me.
I think YOU desire to have the last word.You guys are talking about Apple's rumored tablet. Nothing off-topic about that. I can barely tell where your opinions split though, best you depart from the navel gazing.
TOPIC: "Apple Tablet Seen by Analyst While Competitors Hold Off to Wait for Details?"
My prediction? Either the tablet will feature a built-in keyboard (flips out), Bluetooth support as an option, or Apple will continue to push hard for virtual keyboards on its MT platform. I think Jobs was very proud of his "finger" slide in January of 2007. I'd imagine they might finally go for Bluetooth keyboard support as a compromise while pushing the superiority of the soft-keyboard.
HP almost had me entranced with its Touch computer. VERY well done. Dell has successfully shipped the "first tablet PC featuring multi-touch", and charges megabucks for it. HP's tx2 is much more consumer friendly in price, but has less battery life, is heavier, and apparently runs hot.
http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/10/dell-latitude-xt2-multi-touch-tablet-with-11-hour-battery-now-of/
http://h30440.www3.hp.com/campaigns/tx2/demo/Model.html
DELL - $2,399
HP - $1099
APPLE - $799 (?)
So far the other offerings have fairly limited multi-touch options (zooming, scrolling). It will be interesting to see where Apple thinks this needs to go.
~ CB
Discussion forum. I was giving my opinion. And, as everyone knows, my opinion automatically becomes law for everyone.
You did not change my mind.
That's right. Anyone can comment. I never told you not to respond or comment. What are you talking about?
I'm quite capable of being friendly.... feel free to look up my other posts in these forums. Your response to my comment simply rubbed me the wrong way. Especially your opening comments in this post. If you notice, I did not get sarcastic with you until after that post.
Yes, I'm suggesting that the iPhone is perfect.![]()
Typing with your thumbs on a tablet would be extremely cumbersome. I think we would see a spike in Carpel Tunnel Syndrome.
Obviously the options can be made, but that doesn't mean that people will use them. It all depends on how much more money people would want to spend after buying the tablet. I doubt that a large percentage of people would be buying a portable tablet so that they can carry a keyboard, a mouse, and a tablet stand with them as well. Might as well buy a laptop.
I don't see the need to continue with this off-topic back-and-forth. If you so desire to have the last word, feel free to respond to this post. You are no longer amusing to me.
My prediction? Either the tablet will feature a built-in keyboard (flips out), Bluetooth support as an option, or Apple will continue to push hard for virtual keyboards on its MT platform. I think Jobs was very proud of his "finger" slide in January of 2007. I'd imagine they might finally go for Bluetooth keyboard support as a compromise while pushing the superiority of the soft-keyboard.
HP almost had me entranced with its Touch computer. VERY well done. Dell has successfully shipped the "first tablet PC featuring multi-touch", and charges megabucks for it. HP's tx2 is much more consumer friendly in price, but has less battery life, is heavier, and apparently runs hot.
http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/10/dell-latitude-xt2-multi-touch-tablet-with-11-hour-battery-now-of/
http://h30440.www3.hp.com/campaigns/tx2/demo/Model.html
DELL - $2,399
HP - $1099
APPLE - $799 (?)
So far the other offerings have fairly limited multi-touch options (zooming, scrolling). It will be interesting to see where Apple thinks this needs to go.
~ CB
I'm not sure whether Dell or HP debuted this form-factor (flippable screen) first, but it seems nice enough to preoccupy a decent audience. If I had a "flippable" as thin as my aluminum unibody MacBook, I'm not sure if that would fit the bill for me. If I had a flippable as thin as the MacBook AIR, I still think it's screen size would be somewhat unwieldy or inconvenient. Apple has definitely got to hit the "sweet spot" on the screen size and weight or its a loser.It depends though. The new Dell tablet pc is not a slate tablet, which is what I'm assuming Apple will be attempting to do. It's a convertible with an actual physical keyboard, just the multitouch screen is flippable.
Exactly. But, the only thing I can say is "don't count Apple out". Dell had the right idea (play the video), but had NO clear direction on how users can acquire software for the platform. --But without ALL the pieces, Dell's commercial is a engineer's pipe dream... hoping someone else will piece it together. If Apple keeps the "mix" of extensibility right, LOTS of developers are ready to join into the platform and empower it with solutions.I think the real problem, as I was trying to say before, is where is the market for this? This is not a device that everyone would be able to make use of. When Apple designs a product like this (as opposed to a Mac Pro), they try to design it for everyone- not just for a small niche market. They would want to sell as many of them as they possibly can. If someone had a choice between a tablet and a laptop/desktop, I think that they would go with the laptop/desktop. If someone already had a laptop/desktop, perhaps they would buy the tablet. This device seems more like a toy than something that would be useful for day-to-day productivity. That is the problem with this device. As much as every Apple fanboy wants to see them make the legendary tablet, I think that they will have a hard time selling them. Sure, everyone will think that the new tablet is cool, everyone will go to the Apple Store to play with it, but in the end, especially in the economic environment we're in, I don't see this being a slam-dunk (like the iPhone). I don't think that the timing is right.
Oh really? It's a virtual keyboard? Thank you soooo much for clearing that up for me.
It will be really great being able to see less than half of the document you're typing while the keyboard is up. I mean, who wouldn't love that?
Really? Doctors and lawyers could use these for quick and easy note-taking during their interviews/rounds? So how would they hold this device while standing and typing? I guess they'd have to type with one finger since they would need to hold it with their other hand. That's real efficient. Or maybe Apple will design a back mount so that they could mount it on the back of the person standing in front of them so that they could type with two hands.
The iPhone/iPod Touch already can do this, and you can hold it and type with two hands.
The only way that this would be useful to them is if the tablet device was able to recognize handwriting with a stylus. And it would have to be extremely accurate- otherwise diagnoses and dosages could be totally misinterpreted by the tablet.
Now...who will get exclusive rights to be the carrier?
I hope this rumored tablet/netbook/macbook touch? is just not a giant media pad. At a $700-$800 price range I hope it does more than run iPhone apps, iTunes, HD video, and play new games designed for it. Having some type of iLife and iWork lite (stripped down versions) would be nice and make this more functional without eating into 13" MBP sales.
What The Point Of An Apple Tablet For The Public. I Can See It Coming In Handy In The Commercial Sector, But Why Would Anyone Else Need It. a 200 Dollar Wacom Will Do Whatever You Want, Ya Know?