Affordable...it won't be cheap but people will buy it and it will likely dominate the digital book business. Unless that MS project turns out perfect. But since this will be an Apple branded product people will buy it. Who knows how big of a hit it will be though, could just be another AppleTV type product. Steve did once call the AppleTV the third "leg" in his chair. (the other 3 being, OS X, Computers, iPods).
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Apple Tablet to Run iPhone OS and Launch in May or June 2010?
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Affordable...it won't be cheap but people will buy it and it will likely dominate the digital book business. Unless that MS project turns out perfect. But since this will be an Apple branded product people will buy it. Who knows how big of a hit it will be though, could just be another AppleTV type product. Steve did once call the AppleTV the third "leg" in his chair. (the other 3 being, OS X, Computers, iPods).
Who cares anyway?
Steve Jobs & Apple doesn't always know better. Its just that so many will buy what they make without etermining whether it is best for them.
If Apple actually makes something in this sized category then I'll look to see if meets any of my needs. Also I'll have to determine whether Apple will keep supporting it for long enough into the future.
By reading the rumor sites before the new iPod Touch came out I was ready to purchase what they said that Apple would produce. Apple in their infinate wisdom according to you must have made what was best for all of us. Since Apple missed the mark so far I still have not purchased an iPod Touch.
The Apple RV is an example of a product that could be so good but misses so many marks.
Steve Jobs & Apple doesn't always know better. Its just that so many will buy what they make without etermining whether it is best for them.
If Apple actually makes something in this sized category then I'll look to see if meets any of my needs. Also I'll have to determine whether Apple will keep supporting it for long enough into the future.
By reading the rumor sites before the new iPod Touch came out I was ready to purchase what they said that Apple would produce. Apple in their infinate wisdom according to you must have made what was best for all of us. Since Apple missed the mark so far I still have not purchased an iPod Touch.
The Apple RV is an example of a product that could be so good but misses so many marks.
Maybe not cutting edge, but certainly in its infancy. But you could consider the iTunes Store an extension of the iPod, really. Because without the iTunes Store, the iPod is just another player. Apple figured out a simple and elegant way to buy and organize music, video, etc. that people understand. They did the same thing with the iPhone and App Store. And I'm guessing they'll do that somehow with the tablet- great looking hardware with extremely functional and super-easy-to-use software solution. They get that those two things function as one.
Ditto, apart from AutoCAD and Sketchup, but drawing is what i need to be doing on this new tablet, any my god if Apple dont do something its either PC tablet or i hope if it is iPhone OS some one breaks it to run the full normal os pretty darn quickly, even the microsoft thing is looking more appealing.
iPhone OS basically makes the tablet an $800 iPod. Kind of an expensive toy.
Remember when the iPhone came out and had a $600 price? People lined up to buy them at first but very, very quickly everyone who would pay that price already had one and they run out of customers and had to lower the price.
The number of people who are would spend $800 on a 10" iPod Touch is limited.
Remember when the iPhone came out and had a $600 price? People lined up to buy them at first but very, very quickly everyone who would pay that price already had one and they run out of customers and had to lower the price.
The number of people who are would spend $800 on a 10" iPod Touch is limited.
I would think for a device that Steve Jobs has supposedly personally scrapped twice because it wasnt up to par, they know what they're doing. Hell, who would've thought Apple introducing a touch screen device that used fingers for input rather than a stylus would be such a goldmine?
And, in defense of the Apple TV, if the Apple TV had a subscription based service for TV and Movie downloads, OR allowed more types of video then h.264 encoded mp4/m4v files it would be a pretty big deal....they would of course have to have that subscription based price come in for around the same as Netflix though.
Your probably going to be disappointed, because i cant imagine this coming with a stylus, or designed for stylus input.
Think of the Tablet as more of a bigger iPod Touch that can multitask.
You might be pleasantly surprised by future iphone OS apps with access to more cores, more memory, and a larger view, but, I wouldn't expect them to be equivalent to current desktop apps.
There will, at some point in time, be a convergence of the iphone os and mac os, but I wouldn't hold my breathe. I would argue that Apple and SJ are taking there own sweet time to get this right, and I would expect the results to be at a high standard.
Google Docs already works well for quick editing of spreadsheets on the iPT. Why wouldn't I want to be able to do that on a 9" or 10" screen?
This 'rumor' has changed and been around longer than most urban legends.
Arguing over which OS is going inside the imaginary tablet device that has no real evidence of existing is like debating if horses are really hornless unicorns.
I need a hug today. (obviously)
Arguing over which OS is going inside the imaginary tablet device that has no real evidence of existing is like debating if horses are really hornless unicorns.
I need a hug today. (obviously)
Well, sorry friend... but you are wrong, very wrong.. I've been at this longer than you have been on the planet and it still comes down to dealing with standards.. In the 80's you would ask someone if their computer could run dBASE III and they would say "No but runs "Uncle Dave's BASE" and it's just as good. It wasn't.. OR "Do you have Lotus 1-2-3"? to which the answer was "No, But I have a free program called As Easy As and it's just like Lotus", .. It wasn't..
iWork is total crap and Open office is a bloated bunch of garbage. They don't format stuff 100%, they are terribly incompatible with graphics, and are nothing anyone should trust with work going to a client...
By the Way, I use Primavera Software, P3 and P6.. Oh wait, why would the world use such an expensive piece of software when we could use "T-May's Groovy Project Management Software"...
I'm sure in your world Photoshop, MS Office, Primavera, AutoCad, and many other standard pieces of software are going to be tossed away and replaced by an app from the APP store written by some 10 year old (maybe not since a word processor would duplicate the functionality of iWork and "STEVE" won't allow it)...
You don't know a thing about business my friend - I doubt you even have a job.... Why not run over to Mac Daily News - It's more of a site for wooo hooo's and "Microsoft is Toast, I just Know it!!!!" people! You know - Blind Fanboys like yourself!!
After with playing with one of these that turned up in the shop today i really cant see why not
http://www.wacom-europe.com/index2.asp?pid=294&lang=en&spid=1
Wacom have done some great work on these tablets and it really does fit both worlds, I was carrying around the larger version of this today and was thinging how nice it would be to have this as a tablet, great size and does both touch and pen work. This is why I think it might just do that, other wise ill be getting one of these
http://www.radtech.us/Products/styloid-iphone-ipod-touch-stylus.aspx
Luckilly a few people here seem to be sensible people. The majority obviously haven't got a clue. Using the iPhone OS does not mean the interface will be equal to the iPhone. The iPhone OS is in many respects a streamlined version of OSX with infinitely better touch-API's for the programmers to dig into.
It does multitask (although Apple has decided to limit this to their own apps on the iPhone, mostly due to battery/performance-issues I guess). A device like this will have to have a user-interface quite unlike your traditional Mac/PC anyway, and as the iPhone OS has NO legacy-technology to speak of it's the perfect match. I am confident Apple know exactly what they're doing and they have showed time and time again that they understand the necessity of designing an UI for a specific piece of hardware rather than forcing an ill-fitting interface-paradigm originally designed for something quite different.
This is the main reason Apple could redifine the mp3-player, make the most userfriendly desktop-OS and blow the cell-phone world away with their iPhone...
It does multitask (although Apple has decided to limit this to their own apps on the iPhone, mostly due to battery/performance-issues I guess). A device like this will have to have a user-interface quite unlike your traditional Mac/PC anyway, and as the iPhone OS has NO legacy-technology to speak of it's the perfect match. I am confident Apple know exactly what they're doing and they have showed time and time again that they understand the necessity of designing an UI for a specific piece of hardware rather than forcing an ill-fitting interface-paradigm originally designed for something quite different.
This is the main reason Apple could redifine the mp3-player, make the most userfriendly desktop-OS and blow the cell-phone world away with their iPhone...
Relax people...
...this is just a rumor, it's not written in stone. This is just what someone is hypothesizing is going to be released. I don't think Apple would release a device that is identical to the iPhone and the iPod touch. Apple is really good concealing what they do internally, like everything that Steve and Apple concocts usually wows the tech industry and the masses, I'm pretty sure that they plan to preserve that trend.
...this is just a rumor, it's not written in stone. This is just what someone is hypothesizing is going to be released. I don't think Apple would release a device that is identical to the iPhone and the iPod touch. Apple is really good concealing what they do internally, like everything that Steve and Apple concocts usually wows the tech industry and the masses, I'm pretty sure that they plan to preserve that trend.
Yeah! Because goodness, the iPhone can't do much beyond functioning as a "book reading gadget". Have you ever used an iPhone?
I'd be happier with it if it could stream content from Hulu and imeem, but of course that would cut into Apple's bottom line. Although perhaps they could stream free services on an advertising basis and also differentiate Apple paid items through notably higher definition/higher bitrate, such as 320 kbps for music and 1080i for video.
Maybe the new Tablet will do all those things...
Customer acceptance is certainly part of it. But there are other pressures such as competition. The evolution may also be limited by technology, component availability, cost, and time for software development.
Also, I am not sure that a "true tablet" needs to run OS X. If goal of such a device is "utility" then the less intrusive (and visible) the OS is, the better!
First, let me say this: If all Apple wanted to do is release an iPod Touch with a 10" screen, the could have done that a year ago.
I agree with this: Cocoa Touch for the iPhone ≠ Cocoa Touch for the Tablet.
But, the way Cocoa Touch is implemented on the iPhone shows that Apple had expansion in mind. Sure, some things were eliminated, to reduce overhead, but the basic OS X structure is there.
For example:
-- iPhone OS X (Cocoa Touch) supports Windows and Views. Why? There really aren't any [uses for] windows on the iPhone display!
-- The iPhone TableView API uses single-column tables (scrollable lists, actually). This makes sense on a small display. For a larger display [and more powerful device], the Cocoa Touch API could include the multi-column TableView API from Mac OS X.
My last points:
-- iPhone OS is a full OS, with multi-tasking. In fact it is far superior to what we had on the Mac, prior to OS X.
-- Apple pulled some key Mac OS X developers off Leopard to assure that the iPhone OS X was ready for the initial release. It has been said that the iPhone gave these developers the chance to re-implement some legacy Mac OS X code and "Do it the way it should have been done".
-- the migration of knowledge and function (Frameworks and APIs) between Mac OS X and iPhone OS X is a 2-way street.
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what about the 3GS? The 32 gb retails for about $800. Its only $300 if you sign up for 2 years of ATT.
So basically you're a bit confused.
As for me, if this thing runs iPhone OS, thats a dealbreaker for me
I'm not sure whether I want the iPhone OS, full Mac OS X or something completely different. What I DO want is a tablet that's full featured enough you don't have to sync it to another computer. I also don't having a 3rd, different OS. That would be really hard to keep all 3 OSes synchronized.
While I was first distraught from this rumor, I gave it some time to maul it over. I'm thinking... these rumors proclaim iPhone OS, but who says iPhone's UI? While iPhone OS may provide most of the backend tech, I'm thinking that Apple will create some new interface designed just for this. You guys seriously think that this'll turn out to be a watered down iPhone clone tablet, or an overly complex failure? I'm thinking we'll be surprised. But only time will tell...
for those that want an apple tablet that runs full blown OS X check this...
http://www.axiotron.com/index.php?id=modbook
or
http://www.axiotron.com/index.php?id=modbookpro
a bit pricey, but what isn't lol
http://www.axiotron.com/index.php?id=modbook
or
http://www.axiotron.com/index.php?id=modbookpro
a bit pricey, but what isn't
lol
The iPod was WAY ahead of anything out there from the regular user's point of view when it was released. It was all about the user-experience, the only thing that really mattered in an entertainment-product. The iTunes Store didn't open until 2 years after the iPod was released.
Even after the arrival of the iPod other companies seemed completely clueless. It probably took a good 4-5 years before competitors figured the idea of user-friendlyness out and by then it was too late.
Some people seem to believe that Apple have managed to keep an unfair hype surrounding iPods for 8 years in a row. Yes, you could find cheaper players, you could find players with better audio than most iPods, but you could never find the complete package that made bringing and listening to your music easy for the regular Joe...