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Apple Tablet to Run iPhone OS and Launch in May or June 2010?

dicklacara said:
It's not really a tablet, then, if it runs the Mac OS... You don't call an iMac or a MacBook a tablet... and if you made an iMac or MacBook smaller... it would just be a smaller iMac or MacBook... the screen size doesnt make something a tablet...

See how that works.
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Hmm? are you ok? Obviously a tablet is something that you use a stylus or your fingers to touch... hence why I was mentioning 2 devices which do this.... otherwise id have mentioned the 2 you have which have nothing to do with this at all.... See how that works?

I wasnt trying to say its screen size makes a tablet...im trying to say.. an ipod touch or iphone is not a tablet.. and by bumping its screen size up into 10.7 running the same OS... its just a bigger iphone or ipod touch.. its useless really... you cant work on it why make a bigger iphone or touch when we already have them working the way they should... pointless...

I would rather have a 10.7inch tablet that ran snow leopard to do some light work on and browse the internet. Would be great for a little photoshop work and jotting down notes etc in lectures.
 
ri0ku said:
Its not realy a tablet then if it runs the iphone os.... you dont call an iphone or an ipod touch a tablet... and if you made an ipod touch or an iphone bigger... it would just be a bigger ipod touch or iphone... the screen size doesnt make something a tablet...

so i think running the iphone os... is lame and i dont class it as a tablet, on a tablet you should be able to do some work... a giant iphone is useless we have iphones and ipod touches... why make a bigger one.
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That leaked Microsoft tablet concept does not run Windows, yet I don't see people claiming that it wouldn't be a "real" tablet if it was created. Read some of the things people have said that iPhone OS is capable of in this thread and actually think about it. Think about navigating OSX on a touchscreen, no keyboard shortcuts, no right click, small menus, etc. You can certainly overcome some of those obstacles, but the end result would never be as touch friendly as something like iPhone OS. iPhone OS on a tablet doesn't mean that everything in the iPhone/iPod touch will simply be scaled up, with nothing new added. Furthermore, tablet or no tablet, iPhone OS itself is always being updated, you can't judge a future product based on the current OS.
 
hmmm

i was hoping it would have osx and 1024 levels of pressure sensitivity for art/graphics apps, otherwise i'm not really interested in an overgrown iphone os.
 
For what most people need, an iPhone OS-based tablet makes a lot of sense IMO. It's obviously not what everyone wants, but hey you can't please everyone all of the time.

I understand that some people want a cheaper Mac notebook. I do too, that's why I often buy used, or even better- Apple refurbished.

Some people want a really small computer, that's the other aspect of a netbook. I don't know, my MBP is pretty slim and compact as is. Once you go below a certain size usability is compromised. And Apple is going to release a margin killing 10" MacBook, at least at a price competitive with netbooks.

I understand the appeal of a $300 netbook, but once you start get larger and putting in better GPU's the price starts to really creep up. Add in an Apple margin, and the prospects of a good Apple netbook for a good price seem low to me.
 
tablet hopes

I hope they don't just give us some lame version of a bigger ipod.
Dell just came out with a laptop that has an instant startup for mail and web- it uses a second OS for that (good idea) and wireless recharging-WOW go Dell. Come on Apple don't get second best with this-make us freak- I'd like it to be able to respond to speech commands and look up relevant stuff for us. Have a bigger keyboard that pulls out-whatever happened to the one that shines on a desk? How about integrated an projector-real high def recording and stills?
Add lenses?
We're waiting for something big don't just drool it out in little upgrades every six months.
 
paradox00 said:
That leaked Microsoft tablet concept does not run Windows, yet I don't see people claiming that it wouldn't be a "real" tablet if it was created. Read some of the things people have said that iPhone OS is capable of in this thread and actually think about it. Think about navigating OSX on a touchscreen, no keyboard shortcuts, no right click, small menus, etc. You can certainly overcome some of those obstacles, but the end result would never be as touch friendly as something like iPhone OS. iPhone OS on a tablet doesn't mean that everything in the iPhone/iPod touch will simply be scaled up, with nothing new added. Furthermore, tablet or no tablet, iPhone OS itself is always being updated, you can't judge a future product based on the current OS.
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This is true and I agree with you with some of the problems you mentioned by as you also said these probably could be overcome. I just like the idea of being able to use snow leopard on a screen that size to do a little photoshop work write down some notes browse the internet. An onscreen keyboard would be fine for me (the ipod touch one works ok for me so I think one on a tablet with snow leopard would be fine)

The microsoft concept was pretty cool and you have a good point that no one complained about windows being on it (but lol who would complain? its windows) none the less I hope that if it does use some kind of iphone OS it would be a greatly improved one with new features able to do stuff quickly and on the go. Built in flash support on websites etc.

At the moment I run leopard on my advent 4211 netbook (msi wind) and its great for on the go I was just hoping for the same sort of thing but better with a tablet
 
themoonisdown09 said:
I really can't imagine the Apple Tablet having a 10.7" screen and running the iPhone OS.
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I can. If it ran OS X they wouldn't have a monopoly on the software sales. The mission statement for this project is probably along the lines of "what's the closest we can get to a full blown computer and still maintain total control over the third party software for it?" The long term goal is to somehow tie *all* their products to the iTunes Store. iPhones, iPods, Apple TV, the tablet, and ultimately the Macs. This 'trojan horse' business model of theirs is brilliant... they actually make me pay to put their store in my home.
 
paradox00 said:
That leaked Microsoft tablet concept does not run Windows, yet I don't see people claiming that it wouldn't be a "real" tablet if it was created. Read some of the things people have said that iPhone OS is capable of in this thread and actually think about it. Think about navigating OSX on a touchscreen, no keyboard shortcuts, no right click, small menus, etc. You can certainly overcome some of those obstacles, but the end result would never be as touch friendly as something like iPhone OS. iPhone OS on a tablet doesn't mean that everything in the iPhone/iPod touch will simply be scaled up, with nothing new added. Furthermore, tablet or no tablet, iPhone OS itself is always being updated, you can't judge a future product based on the current OS.
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If Gizmodo is to be believed, it does run Windows 7. Much like how Surface runs Vista.
 
Major fail. iPhone OS? Seriously?

We already have two devices that run it, why do we need another with a slightly larger screen?
 
ri0ku said:
This is true and I agree with you with some of the problems you mentioned by as you also said these probably could be overcome. I just like the idea of being able to use snow leopard on a screen that size to do a little photoshop work write down some notes browse the internet. An onscreen keyboard would be fine for me (the ipod touch one works ok for me so I think one on a tablet with snow leopard would be fine)

The microsoft concept was pretty cool and you have a good point that no one complained about windows being on it (but lol who would complain? its windows) none the less I hope that if it does use some kind of iphone OS it would be a greatly improved one with new features able to do stuff quickly and on the go. Built in flash support on websites etc.

At the moment I run leopard on my advent 4211 netbook (msi wind) and its great for on the go I was just hoping for the same sort of thing but better with a tablet
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One of the major problems with OSX on the tablet would be third party apps such as Photoshop. They are designed for keyboard and cursor input, and they will always remain that way unless the mac line transitions to touch input in the future. This means that Photoshop will not be optimized for touch input, it simply can't be. At most it will be accommodated. Furthermore, desktop apps are designed for stronger processors, many would run slowly and drain battery life quickly on a tablet. On the other hand, Adobe could release a Photoshop App designed for a tablet. It would be optimized for touch, it would be optimized for a lower power processor, and it wouldn't drain your battery like mad. When considering a tablet with iPhone OS you have to consider where the platform could go, not where it is currently.

Initially, a tablet running iPhone OS may not have many desktop or near desktop grade apps, but if the demand is there, they will come, and when they do, they will be far more enjoyable to use than their OSX equivalents. If someone told you two years ago that Apples App store would have 75000+ apps, would you have believed them?
 
not for me. I'll save my money for something I can actually find a use for
 
Minimoose 360 said:
Major fail. iPhone OS? Seriously?

We already have two devices that run it, why do we need another with a slightly larger screen?
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We already have dozens of devices that run MacOSX too! :)

OSX on a tiny screen, without a keyboard or mouse would be a horrible experience. Imagine trying to use the edge of a nail to hit the tiny scroll buttons, or trying to grab the corner of a window by that tiny corner to stretch it?

With an on-screen keyboard showing, the visible area of the document you're working on would be even smaller. iPhone apps which require text input are designed to fit around an on-screen keyboard, OSX apps are not.

How would you select from a tiny menu in OSX on a touchscreen. iPhone menus (even popup menus in webpages) are large enough to be easily readable and selectable on a small screen, OSX menus are not.
 
Wait!

Wait until Steve do the talking and everybody say, oh! yeah! Got that fanboys!
 
TuffLuffJimmy said:
This means that iPhone v4.0 will have file system access. :cool:
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If I could mount CIFS file systems on my redundant server at home, while sitting on the couch, or using an "iPad" version of Viscosity to use with OpenVPN to access my network remotely, pulling up a spreadsheet to quickly edit a number or two, all in a device that's 2 pounds with a 9" screen, that'd be powerful.
 
If the iTablet is not to come out until May-June 2010, there is ample time for Apple to revise the heck out the current rumored product. What I suspect is that there are several versions of the iTablet being vetted to target users and that's why we hear such a range of rumors.

Apple is very aware that their products need to provide real benefits to the enterprise market (iTouch excepted) and will be offering something that fills that market's need.

Keep in mind that currently the iPhone App Store has tons of software that is designed to address the specific needs of business users. But most of all the iPhone OS currently allows corporate customers to safeguard their data in several ways; such as remote wiping. In addition the app store gives corporate IT a way to update far-flung portable devices with the company's latest tools.

While OSX or even Windoz 7 can do more then the current iPhone OS, that reverse is also true when considering what iPhone OS working in conjunction with the app store can do. When and IF we ever see an iTablet it will not be just a product; it will be a synergy of OS and app store and hardware, creating a unique solution.
 
whooleytoo said:
We already have dozens of devices that run MacOSX too! :)

OSX on a tiny screen, without a keyboard or mouse would be a horrible experience. Imagine trying to use the edge of a nail to hit the tiny scroll buttons, or trying to grab the corner of a window by that tiny corner to stretch it?

With an on-screen keyboard showing, the visible area of the document you're working on would be even smaller. iPhone apps which require text input are designed to fit around an on-screen keyboard, OSX apps are not.

How would you select from a tiny menu in OSX on a touchscreen. iPhone menus (even popup menus in webpages) are large enough to be easily readable and selectable on a small screen, OSX menus are not.
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Couldn't you just flick a page up and down without touching the scroll bar? I feel as though it would be gone all together.

Also use the two finger zoom on a window without grabbing the corners. You're daft if I/we think that the tablet will run a REGULAR copy of OS X, it would have to be adapted. Apple is very intuitive and I have faith they could make it work. Mobile touch screen devices never "worked" until Apple came in with the iPhone.
 
Me too! :D

ShiftyPig said:
And to think just a few hours ago I was getting mocked on the other thread for questioning the market viability of this thing. It was never going to run full OSX.
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Actually I've been saying this for a few months now. I just don't see this selling and what market it's for. :/

Hugh
 
Minimoose 360 said:
Couldn't you just flick a page up and down without touching the scroll bar? I feel as though it would be gone all together.

Also use the two finger zoom on a window without grabbing the corners. You're daft if I/we think that the tablet will run a REGULAR copy of OS X, it would have to be adapted. Apple is very intuitive and I have faith they could make it work. Mobile touch screen devices never "worked" until Apple came in with the iPhone.
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Does bold text actually make you more correct? No. Apple has already made a touch friendly version of OSX, it runs on the iPhone currently, but can be scaled up to more powerful devices as needed.
 
Iphone OS = the loose

Not going to have a second tool that you can not install what ever you want on. OS X or I won t buy it, it's as simple as that. Lol the whole point of the tablet is to have a portable OS in between a laptop and the iphone/ipod...not a bigger screen ipod
 
Kindle Killer? Really?

After reading all the discussions about the new tablet as a Kindle killer, I keep thinking about all the HUGE hurdles that Apple would need to overcome to make this a feasible reality. Don't get me wrong, I love Apple, I love my Kindle, and would love to see what they'll do once they focus on the e-reader market, but I'm skeptical that this tablet will be the answer.

The tablet, in whatever form it takes, will most likely be a back-lit LCD screen, no? A huge part of the appeal of the Kindle is eye-friendly electronic ink, which, although there have been rapid advances in making multi-color options, still requires a refresh rate that would make a computer from 1984 look like HD. So if this thing was to be targeted as an Apple e-reader it seems like they would make that decision up-front and not make it so much of a multi-purpose device (a.k.a. either they make this think e-ink and focus on the e-reader market OR they make this thing a true tablet computer and make reading a small, yet eye-straining feature - like reading on the iPhone).

The other major hurdle seems like it would be battery life. My Kindle charge lasts A WEEK with heavy use. My iPhone charge lasts a day if I'm lucky, with a relatively small screen. If the thing isn't using low-refresh rates and e-ink, who wants a "book" that you have to charge once a day?
 
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