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Well, sorry friend... but you are wrong, very wrong.. I've been at this longer than you have been on the planet and it still comes down to dealing with standards.. In the 80's you would ask someone if their computer could run dBASE III and they would say "No but runs "Uncle Dave's BASE" and it's just as good. It wasn't.. OR "Do you have Lotus 1-2-3"? to which the answer was "No, But I have a free program called As Easy As and it's just like Lotus", .. It wasn't..

iWork is total crap and Open office is a bloated bunch of garbage. They don't format stuff 100%, they are terribly incompatible with graphics, and are nothing anyone should trust with work going to a client...

By the Way, I use Primavera Software, P3 and P6.. Oh wait, why would the world use such an expensive piece of software when we could use "T-May's Groovy Project Management Software"...

I'm sure in your world Photoshop, MS Office, Primavera, AutoCad, and many other standard pieces of software are going to be tossed away and replaced by an app from the APP store written by some 10 year old (maybe not since a word processor would duplicate the functionality of iWork and "STEVE" won't allow it)...

You don't know a thing about business my friend - I doubt you even have a job.... Why not run over to Mac Daily News - It's more of a site for wooo hooo's and "Microsoft is Toast, I just Know it!!!!" people! You know - Blind Fanboys like yourself!!

How do you know how old the guy is? How incredibly arrogant of you. Perhaps you missed my previous post, so I'll link it.

https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/8567243/

Do explain how all those people aren't doing "real work" with Oo_Org.

I bet in your day, you walked up hill to work. Both ways. In the snow. Barefoot. Right? Us kids don't know WTF we're talking about.
 
I really can't imagine the Apple Tablet having a 10.7" screen and running the iPhone OS.

If it ran Mac OS X, I could see the bigger screen. I think that if it does run the iPhone OS, the screen size will be in the 6"-8" category.

Agreed. While I can see the functionality of the OS on a larger screen (and the increased capability that will result), I expect Apple to do a little bit better. Surely the larger (much larger) screen size will allow for more innovation in the OS, rather than a mere scaling of the iPhone software. As always people, this is RUMOR not FACT so always take it with a hunk of salt (especially when they claim the product will launch so far away from now).

Let's hope it's a more advanced version of iphone os with wider software support, because i'm not reading books on a screen that doesn't use e-ink.

Sounds like Apple is slowly transitioning and getting people used to the idea of a fully touchscreen OS. So iPhone really was Steve's development platform for the next light-years ahead OS, interesting.

I think this is a good thing. I think the tablet will run a more advanced version of the iPhone OS and will therefore benefit iPhone and iPod Touch owners because the new advances on the tablet will trickle down to the iPhone shortly after! :D I have thought for quite a while that iChat and an iSight will debut on the tablet and THEN appear on the iPhone shortly after, as well as other features, such as file structure, iWork Mobile, etc.

My biggest hope is heavy media and Apple TV integration with iTunes Extras! :D

With iPhone OS, it'll act more like a netbook. Kindle competitor maybe, but no one reads anymore, right? I do have the Kindle ap on my iPhone which is cool. There will be some other new big functions I'm sure. Rounded back is just odd though. I might bite on this although I was hoping for something along the lines of an 11" MBA. I can't imagine touch typing on a tablet (maybe).

You think it is a coincidence that Apple just added accessory support to iPhone OS 3.0 with Bluetooth syncing? You ever heard of Apple's ultra thin and slim wireless keyboard??? :rolleyes:
 
I was planing on buying the tablet, but sense some details came out i don't feel so sure about it now, a 10.7 in" tablet, runnning the same software as my iphone. MY thing is whats the point if u got a iphone whats the purpose in getting a bigger srceen, if its running the same, i can use my iphone for all of that. HOPEFULLY JOBS GET ON HIS JOB.........................
 
So, someone who likes windows wont buy an iphone then? I know people with pc's who use iphones. As far as knowing how it runs, I find it difficult to believe that it will stray so incredibly far from the way the iphone and ipods are used that people will get confused. Besides, sometimes new devices come with a small learning curve. Isn't that what gadgets are about? I bet some never even thought of having a track pad on their computer to control their mouse. If they look back though, they'll wonder how they ever did without it. We can only hope this same type of creation goes into this new device. ;)

Just the opposite! The OP stated (emphasis mine):

After considering things for a little longer, I think going with iPhone OS makes the most sense, from a business sense:

• It would [continue to] be Windows customer-friendly
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• People [including Windows users] already familiar with the iPhone/iPod touch will know immediately how this thing runs

There is a whole 'nother thing Apple could do with the Tablet to make it even more appealing to Windows users:

-- Make a Tablet version of iLife and iWork that interfaces the computer version
-- Make a Windows version of iLife and iWork

So, you're out and about with your Tablet... you take some photos & movies, type some notes, make some drawings.

You come home, sit down at your home Mac or Windows PC and it recognizes (Bonjour WiFi, BlueTooth, or USB) your tablet and vise versa. you drag n' drop your content from the tablet to the computer where it is available to the appropriate app.

You do what you do, and now you want to strut your stuff.. You just reverse the process and drag the content to your tablet, so you can take it with you.

Apple could sell iLife and iWork to Windows users or use the as an incentive to buy the Tablet (or both)

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iPod Jumbo?

What a gift to M$'s marketing department if what we get turns out to be a logical extension of the iPod line in the direction of bigness.

UK readers may be old enough to remember a comedy show where the running gag was the lead screaming into a giant sized Nokia. Not funny then and it won't be funny when it is the iPod Jumbo, either.
 
How about no software? MS Office is required for a real computer (Please, don't insult my intelligence with rants about iWork, Open Office, Neo Office, or some other sort-of compatible package)..

I suppose Steve will decide what you can and can not load on it as well - better yet, Steve will decide what can be written for it...... And will it be able to run more than 1 app at a time...

I work for a living. I suppose iPhone OS would work for you and the rest of the fanboys who have nothing to do but play Super Monkey Ball all day - unfortunately, that won't work for the majority of the world...

I do agree that MS Office is THE ****. I cannot stand using anything other than Office 07, maybe because I'm too used to it or because it is simply great. I have a virtual machine in Linux just for that.

Now, this type of device is not something you would want to write a long paper on. It is just a different target.
 
I just want a 10" MacBook Pro that is ultra portable, but which can be used for serious work using full OSX.

I do not want iPhone OS because it can't run serious software such as a full Office suite.

I do not want a tablet because I want to type on a keyboard, not on glass.

Netbooks are popular, not just because they're cheap, but because they fulfill a need for ultra portable mobile computing.

Can't Apple just get it in their head that there is a demand for netbooks, and all they have to do is just create a netbook, for whatever price that gives them sufficient profit.

Why create a tablet when the public is asking for a netbook?

Seriously, before all these tablet rumors, I did not see a widespread cry to Apple for a touch-screen tablet.

This is just Apple trying to be arty-creative and bringing out something that does not meet our needs.
 
"announced on or before January 19th, 2010 for release in May or June of 2010?"

That doesn't make sense. Why announce that early when release date is 5 or 6 months away.

Agreed. That was my first clue that this "rumor" is bunk. Apple doesn't work that way.

If this runs iPhone OS it will fail. Period.
 
Agreed...

An oversized iPod Touch is not the tablet device I am looking for. Now, something in between the iPhone OS and OS X would be fine for me, since I am not looking for a desktop system in a tablet, either.

Come on Apple you can wow us with something better than this rumor!
 
Seriously everyone..

Anyone who thought this tablet would sport 10.6 is a fool


Anyone who now thinks this tablet will sport a graphically enlarged iPhone OS 3 is a fool.



It's more reasonable to suspect that it will sport a really enhanced version of iPhone OS (iPhone OS 4.0 or iPhone OS X) that will probably make a lot of the grieved individuals in this thread pipe down.


If your looking for 10.6 get a mac book.
 
Re Pages

<snip pissing contest>

iWork is total crap and Open office is a bloated bunch of garbage. They don't format stuff 100%, they are terribly incompatible with graphics, and are nothing anyone should trust with work going to a client...

<snip pissing contest 2>

Re Pages. Crap is in the eye of the beholder.

Say you want to do a collage of say 60 or 70 photographs Highlights of the kids soccer season). These are all over the place in quality... some are old black and whites (scanned) or stills from a videoCam. Some are high resolution and high quality,

Now, you want to make this poster size, say, 17" x 20" or 20" x 30". And you want the collage to have pictures of varying sizes, overlapping... like on a bulletin board. And, you want to cut out some special shapes: stars, diamonds, ovals. etc. Zoom in on some, mask and crop others, eliminate backgrounds, adjust colors, brightness, etc.

You could dig out your expensive image software: Photoshop, Canvas, etc. But these are difficult to use and don't really do the job.

Pages, one of the programs in the inexpensive ($79) iWork packages can do all this with one hand tied behind its back.

Seriously, I can do in hours, with Pages what would would take days to do with other tools.

Limited application... possibly.

But you can't beat the price and productivity.

I have 3 grandkids playing sports, school outings, plays, etc.

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An oversized iPod Touch is not the tablet device I am looking for. Now, something in between the iPhone OS and OS X would be fine for me, since I am not looking for a desktop system in a tablet, either.

Come on Apple you can wow us with something better than this rumor!

The thing is, there are people like me that just want a 9" iPod Touch with bluetooth connectivity to a keyboard, and Flash.

I don't need a full-blown computer, that's what I have two MBP's for.

Don't get me wrong, I see your viewpoint too; it's just that it's not cut and dried one way or the other.
 
Until we see the real thing, it's all just speculation based on what is at best, rumour. Then again, this s MacRumours.
 
Its not realy a tablet then if it runs the iphone os.... you dont call an iphone or an ipod touch a tablet... and if you made an ipod touch or an iphone bigger... it would just be a bigger ipod touch or iphone... the screen size doesnt make something a tablet...

so i think running the iphone os... is lame and i dont class it as a tablet, on a tablet you should be able to do some work... a giant iphone is useless we have iphones and ipod touches... why make a bigger one.
 
Wake up, everyone.

ATTENTION: Contributors and lurkers alike, this forum caters to only the tiniest fraction of Apple product consumers. Repeat the following:

I am not Apple’s target demographic.

I am not Apple’s target demographic.

I am not Apple’s target demographic.


Keep saying this, over and over again, until it sinks in.

The wah wah I want this and I want that or I won't buy and this is stupid and epic FAIL and Apple is going down the tubes...

... is really oh so tiring.

Step outside your little worlds and realize that your itty bitty personal universe means zip/nada/zero.

Jobs doesn't care about you.

Nor should he.

Oh the tears, the tears. Sad, so sad.

The "killer" app may very well be a technology similar to PixelQi.

E-books are going to be huge.

Reading newspapers on your tablet next to your morning Cheerios, swiping pages with a passing finger, is going to be HUGE.

This product is going to use digital technology to save print media. This will likely be the first device that anyone would ever use and still consider paying for content, like the old days.

In this case, that's a good thing. A very good thing.

I certainly don't mind paying for content. I might pay 50 cents a month to read Boing Boing. Or I might not.

But I'll darn well pay 50 bucks a year (or more) to read the New York Times or Wall Street Journal on this kind of elegant device.

Not on the iPhone. WAY TOO SMALL.

Knock knock, open the door. See the rest of the world out there, and understand that Apple doesn't revolve around you.

Apps. Games. Music. Books.

Apple doesn't need to include iWork or any of their products. Not for this device. They'll make money on the hardware, and then let all of those smaller companies duke it out with app content.

Content consumption. That's what the masses want. NOT more productivity software/hardware.

STOP WHINING. :)

I suppose you are Apple's target demographic? If so, god help Apple...
 
Anyone who thought this tablet would sport 10.6 is a fool


Anyone who now thinks this tablet will sport a graphically enlarged iPhone OS 3 is a fool.



It's more reasonable to suspect that it will sport a really enhanced version of iPhone OS (iPhone OS 4.0 or iPhone OS X) that will probably make a lot of the grieved individuals in this thread pipe down.


If your looking for 10.6 get a mac book.

Yeah, I don't understand all the anger over iPhone OS. Do people really think it's going to look the same as it does on an iPhone, just bigger? Obviously that won't be the case, if this rumor is in fact accurate. Like you said, it will probably be a completely different user experience.

Why would anyone want OSX on a tablet? I can think of dozens of input problems that would be difficult to resolve on a touch screen device. Example: menu bars - do people want to deal with the precision required to touch a small <1/4" band across the very top of the screen for the majority of in-app operations? Because that's how it is on OSX. At least with the mouse you can then drift to the other drop down menus without reclicking, but on a touch device you would have to individually select each category to see whats there. How about navigating finder or iTunes and selecting categories from the tiny lists in the sidebar? It's just not intuitive.

Especially since iPhone OS is already designed as touch-based.

That said, the two-screen design of the Courier has really won me over. I was kind of hoping Apple would design something similar. A slate-like tablet seems more and more difficult to use the more I think about it, espeically at 10". But I have faith in Apple's ability to design great products.
 
Of course.

Of course it'll run an iPhone-style OS. Cramming a full OS into a tiny device has proven to be ridiculous (netbooks, etc.). With such an emphasis on developing cloud computing and the offering of 3G wireless, this thing will be mostly operated on the 'net, just like iPhone.
 
Its not realy a tablet then if it runs the iphone os.... you dont call an iphone or an ipod touch a tablet... and if you made an ipod touch or an iphone bigger... it would just be a bigger ipod touch or iphone... the screen size doesnt make something a tablet...

so i think running the iphone os... is lame and i dont class it as a tablet, on a tablet you should be able to do some work... a giant iphone is useless we have iphones and ipod touches... why make a bigger one.

It's not really a tablet, then, if it runs the Mac OS... You don't call an iMac or a MacBook a tablet... and if you made an iMac or MacBook smaller... it would just be a smaller iMac or MacBook... the screen size doesnt make something a tablet...

See how that works.
 
Anyone who thought this tablet would sport 10.6 is a fool

The dock and other artifacts (menus and sizes ) are designed for a larger screen with more room.

Anyone who now thinks this tablet will sport a graphically enlarged iPhone OS 3 is a fool.

Please. That's a huge wishful thinking leap. The operating system is a provider of resources. Hooking up a large screen in no way should cripple/inhibit it.

If Mac OS X can cover mini , laptops, iMac , Mac Pro , and Xserves then iPhone OS can't cover a phone , a touch , and a tablet is baffling. As long as the screen size is keep relatively smaller, there is no reason why it can't scale up several more inches. The size of the buttons now on iPhone OS are problematically small now with the need for feedback to tell you which one you are pressing. slight increases in size will take pressure off that problem.









Additionally, Why would Apple want the additional expense of the 3rd line of development on the operating systems?


It's more reasonable to suspect that it will sport a really enhanced version of iPhone OS (iPhone OS 4.0 or iPhone OS X) that will probably make a lot of the grieved individuals in this thread pipe down.

A slightly updated/modified iPhone OS is still iPhone OS. That is like saying if add expose and spaces somehow Mac OS X isn't Mac OS X anymore. If it is an OS where there are no physical buttons and all input is through touch (and CocoaTouch) then it is iPhone OS.

I stopped reading about half way through the ranting and raving in this thread but no one is pointing out any real OS differences that aren't already in iPhone OS.

iPhone OS can't handle a larger screen. What on earth justifies that statement? Get real. It is fixed to 3.2' screen dimensions forever. Please. Even the original Mac OS was not hardcoded to a 9" screen permanently.


More memory/processors/etc. can all be consumed by the OS core that is present.

The limitation on screen size is more inside the APPLICATIONS than in the OS. It is a question of what iPhonesOS apps do with the larger number of pixels more so than the OS being able to handle it.
that is a simple enough to compensate for but just putting a border box around them if they are clueless about screen size.





If your looking for 10.6 get a mac book.

Yes.
 
MacWorld 2007--
Steve Jobs: "iPhone runs OS X"

I'm thinking that this tablet will run a modified OS that is somewhere between an enhanced iPhone OS and the full OSX Snow Leopard, and have the ability to run multiple iPhone apps natively so as not to have developers create different versions for the iPhone and tablet?
 
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