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Well, i started with the iPnone original, the,3g, 3GS and now the 4. By far the best receptioto date is the iP4 of the others. As for Android, i have tired both he Droid and Droid X on Verizon. The original Droid had pathetic performance for me. Too soon to judge the Droid X a thought i know it does not do simultaneous voice and date which is a big deal for me.

Ah, where are the custom ROMs? I know everyone is hung up on reception, but to me its what the phone does. I held off on the 4 because facetime wouldn't work over 3G for free and that stinks! If they fix that then maybe I'll consider coming back if I haven't got too addicted to freedom by then.

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And as someone who owns an iPhone, Froyo is pretty awesome. Its more like a computer than I ever had on my iPhone. The freedom is definitely welcome; my data usage has tripled since Froyo!
 
I love reading the comments from all the Arm Chair CEO's on here. Like anyone here has any experience running a multi-billion dollar company.

I do! My company specializes in green homes and red hotels. We typically like making several in a row on the same street. We also dabble in rail roads and water distribution.
 
"Dirty pool"? Hardly. Everyonr has been giving them total Shiz for weeks and no other phone has been judged with the same measuring stick.

Then again, no other company sets the bat so high for their products. A magical tablet pc? HA!. It is a tablet pc, there is nothing magical about it. Apple's marketing it biting them in the butt, now they have been caught out and are playing childish games to try and look better.

Say you are better than everyone else, then you better be able to prove it, right now the iPhone on reception issues seems to be very average.
 
I do! My company specializes in green homes and red hotels. We typically like making several in a row on the same street. We also dabble in rail roads and water distribution.

Oh yeah, cool. You also work for a Fortune 500 company on the side. Is it the McDonalds on Main or on 4th?
 
Lock the damn thread already, you made these forums a festering ground for all trolls, this place is supposed to be moderated, then why the hell is it not?
:mad::mad::mad:

Instead every troll on the planet comes here as has a field day and drives the good posters away, and the forums go down the drain.

Dreadful, dreadful management of the forums, and everyone too far up their attics and pretending all jolly good when anyone can cone here, bash apple, bash users as if it were a pc forum.

Get it in your heads, this is no pc anything goes forum, come on in people and shill for the droids, the googles, or whatever else, this was once an apple community, if so tell us what are we up to our ears in trolls? Why does every bozo think he can lecture us on android here?:mad:

Unbeliavable, thousands and thousands of pointless posts, countless users who could be in the forums discussing apps, os, hardware are out here fending off the trolls...

What a royal mess you ve made of these forums, just sit back and get those ad dollars in, I wonder though when the real users leave and you are left with just the trolls what you are going to do.
 
Lock the damn thread already, you made these forums a festering ground for all trolls, this place is supposed to be moderated, then why the hell is it not?
:mad::mad::mad:

Instead every troll on the planet comes here as has a field day and drives the good posters away, and the forums go down the drain.

Dreadful, dreadful management of the forums, and everyone too far up their attics and pretending all jolly good when anyone can cone here, bash apple, bash users as if it were a pc forum.

Get it in your heads, this is no pc anything goes forum, come on in people and shill for the droids, the googles, or whatever else, this was once an apple community, if so tell us what are we up to our ears in trolls? Why does every bozo think he can lecture us on android here?:mad:

Unbeliavable, thousands and thousands of pointless posts, countless users who could be in the forums discussing apps, os, hardware are out here fending off the trolls...

What a royal mess you ve made of these forums, just sit back and get those ad dollars in, I wonder though when the real users leave and you are left with just the trolls what you are going to do.

I doubt Arn really cares as long as the fat Adsense checks keep on rolling in.
 
I could care less about the stupid antenna. I don't have any problem. My issue is with the proximity sensor. Get that fixed so my face doesn't end the call.
 
Wow, just for the hell of it, I decided to check this with my Blackberry 8900. Sure enough, when I hold it in certain ways (especially the more that the bottom is covered), I went from 3 bars to NONE!!! :eek:

I'm 100% serious, too... I can't believe I've never noticed this before... Leave it to :apple: to show me, LOL! Makes me wonder if the dropped calls I've had (T-Mobile) are due to that, since I have a very strong FULL signal at my house usually.
 
Lock the damn thread already, you made these forums a festering ground for all trolls, this place is supposed to be moderated, then why the hell is it not?
:mad::mad::mad:

Instead every troll on the planet comes here as has a field day and drives the good posters away, and the forums go down the drain.

Dreadful, dreadful management of the forums, and everyone too far up their attics and pretending all jolly good when anyone can cone here, bash apple, bash users as if it were a pc forum.

Get it in your heads, this is no pc anything goes forum, come on in people and shill for the droids, the googles, or whatever else, this was once an apple community, if so tell us what are we up to our ears in trolls? Why does every bozo think he can lecture us on android here?:mad:

Unbeliavable, thousands and thousands of pointless posts, countless users who could be in the forums discussing apps, os, hardware are out here fending off the trolls...

What a royal mess you ve made of these forums, just sit back and get those ad dollars in, I wonder though when the real users leave and you are left with just the trolls what you are going to do.

Not condoning trolling but maybe I misread. So your saying that even though people post positive things about macs in these forums if they have anything negative to say or feel that another system might be better or at least put up a competition they should go to a different forum because if its not pro mac it shouldn't be heard here?
 
Great offensive there, Steve.

Sarcasm notwithstanding - it is very effective damage limitation.

Tabloid telly loves a lazy catchphrase. ~gate etc.

What apple have done is very quickly made it pointless to call it 'the iPhone grip of death'.

Its a clever move - and it shows people that mobiles of all makes have weak spots, something I wasn't aware of.
 
Wow. You could use a break, bud.

Apple's being childish. Simple as that. They made a conscious decision to divert X amount of money from who-knows-what to making videos about how other phones have problems. The issue was over when they solved it with free bumpers, they should have just left it at that.

I'm sorry but poking fun at a supposed issue with iPhone 4 in ads, posters, commercials, etc. isn't exactly mature. These companies were ok pointing the finger at the number one threat but when the tables are turned they express public butt hurt. If you didn't want your product to be exposed, you shouldn't have jumped into the drama head first. It's such a crime to publicly defend yourself and make a point. Some people are never satisfied, seriously.
 
this is getting to be childish. why don't you focus on fixing your own problems apple and how about actually releasing the white iphone? that'd be great mkky thks bye

Well, Steve's other name may be Narciss. But there are consumer reports out there that do not recommend the iPhone based on the antenna thing. There are competitors who use it for their own advertisement. So Apple's reaction seems to me at least understandable.
 
Normally you're analogy would win but under this circumstance it FAILS! Why? Because despite the bad press about the reception problems with the iPhone 4 hardly anyone on this forum wanted to return it. A great deal of people said, "If you can't deal with it, return it", those complaining iPhone 4 users kept replying that they love the phone regardless of the reception issues. Sorry man, you fail here, in this case more does mean better. :p
Apparently, the vast majority of those claiming to be returning the iPhone 4 are those who never bought one in the first place.

Furthermore, some of you self-righteous Apple haters here need to put yourself in the position of Steve Jobs, be real about it, you would've done the exact same thing as he and Apple have handled this. You're running a multi-billion dollar company with stockholders, you're not gonna make public apologies and walk away with a yellow tail between your legs. If you have any ballz as a CEO you will stand your ground and backup your product and not allow people to slam all over you as this forum loves to do.
An exception to this may need to be made, however, for the resident self-righteous Apple Haters who also happen to be fervent S. Jobs loathers - self-righteous would be stating it rather mildly.

I just wanted to put in my few cents. I went to a friends house today and played with the new Droid X phone and I wasn't impressed. The scrolling isn't smooth, the interface is clunky (I noticed some pop-up notifications required scrolling even though there was still plenty of screen real-estate), and really I thought if all you had to do was copy Apple you could do better than this. I thought that maybe it would be something impressive but really it just reminded me of my old PocketPC. I just love the polish, simplicity, and smoothness of the iPhone UI. Maybe Apple put some restrictions on the phone so it can't do certain "techy" things...however I think they made the right trade-off...especially for 98% of the world which is non-tech oriented. Some people don't care about the user experience, they just want a "list of features" in a phone, however the UI matters to me and that's why I'm probably never going to switch away from iPhones...they care about the same things I do.

Some other companies may create a phone with a neat feature or two that the iPhone doesn't have but if you look at the device holistically it's obvious that other phone makers are still struggling to create something as polished as the iPhone OS. Jobs was right about other cell phone makers being 5 years behind. The feel of the phones is like the difference between Windows 95 and Windows 3.1 (I know I'm dating myself here).

Keep up the good work Apple. This antenna issue is essentially a non-issue in my opinion. If I had the extra money I'd buy an iPhone4 right now with no regrets. :)
I was able to play with a Droid X today, which was just purchased by an acquaintance.

Clunkier than WinMo would be a fair assessment - if not more so.

Multi-touch, responsiveness, UI design and layout - all suck miserably.

Call/sound quality is nothing to write home about either.

Sure hope Android makes some more progress with the OS, at least enough to contend with Windows Mobile Series Seven, when it gets released later this year.
 
Unbeliavable, thousands and thousands of pointless posts, countless users who could be in the forums discussing apps, os, hardware are out here fending off the trolls...
any worthwhile posters know how to navigate a forum and post on what they like! How many times are you going to have this rant? Its totally bogus anyway, you frequently see fans of competing products on other platforms forums.. You don't have to be 100% happy to make a contribution.

I think responses like yours are probably what the real trolls are aiming for anyway.. It can be pretty funny seeing the diehards get so riled up.

What a royal mess you ve made of these forums, just sit back and get those ad dollars in, I wonder though when the real users leave and you are left with just the trolls what you are going to do.
The majority of "real" users aren't insecure or petty enough to care about people who don't agree with them. The good users are still here. Only reason MR is like this is its popularity.

Also it seems funny to complain that the good posters are wasting time defending against trolls when Apple and Jobs are doing exactly the same thing. :)
 
Sure hope Android makes some more progress with the OS, at least enough to contend with Windows Mobile Series 7, when it gets released later this year.

Apparently, Android isn't good enough for down under. I asked a Vodafone manager why they stopped offering the HTC Magic for the Nokia N97 and they told me that nobody was interested in an Android phone. Also, the iPhone and the N97 was their biggest selling consumer phones in that price category.
 
Apparently, Android isn't good enough for down under. I asked a Vodafone manager why they stopped offering the HTC Magic for the Nokia N97 and they told me that nobody was interested in an Android phone. Also, the iPhone and the N97 was their biggest selling consumer phones in that price category.
Not at all surprised - felt like Windows 3.1 all over again.
 
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