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Not at all surprised - felt like Windows 3.1 all over again.

Smells like the "Linux Desktop Revolution" all over again - Lots of potential, lack of vision... and a detrimental license agreement.

This was a little while ago though, Vodafone offer the Nexus One and the Sony X10i, but not in stores AFAIK. You have to go on their website and its not exactly advertised.
 
Apple Takes on Droid X With Latest Smartphone Antenna Video

So the problem only occurs when you have low signal strength right? As a Droid X user on Verizon I can say I've never had less than three bars (even cross-country). Verizon never has low signal strength. Ever.
 
So the problem only occurs when you have low signal strength right? As a Droid X user on Verizon I can say I've never had less than three bars (even cross-country). Verizon never has low signal strength. Ever.
I have never seen a CDMA smart phone without a 3G or 1X symbol next to the bars. Must have been a Magical Verizon phone:D
 
forza italia;)lol
Well, maybe this is not the right year to say that ;)

This video has been my experience as well, I think this shows what’s needed!
My iPhone 4 has worked flawless!!!:cool:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EfawQj-Rto&feature=youtube_gdata

Don't you know? Videos count only when is to blame Apple. Not the other way ;)

My video about the non existent "one finger death" is yet to be commented by the well known haters/whiners/bashers of the forum ;)


Not condoning trolling but maybe I misread. So your saying that even though people post positive things about macs in these forums if they have anything negative to say or feel that another system might be better or at least put up a competition they should go to a different forum because if its not pro mac it shouldn't be heard here?

There is a huge difference between a customer not happy with a single product (it may happens) and someone conducting a war of propaganda against a brand and its CEO. Huge difference ;)
 
So the problem only occurs when you have low signal strength right? As a Droid X user on Verizon I can say I've never had less than three bars (even cross-country). Verizon never has low signal strength. Ever.

That's simply not possible, for every network provider. Every one has weak "spots" on the territory.
BTW in the video posted by Apple, the Droid X started from 3 bars down to zero in 10 seconds. So you are not safe either ;)

Don't worry, this is absolutely normal with every phone. Your droid x isn't defective.
It's just a phone, as the iPhone 4.
 
Apple misses the point though.

Consumers report showed that with the tip of the finger at the spot where both antennas are connected, the iPhone 4 looses so much signal, it could drop a call.
Consumers report never even mentioned death grip or even held it tight!

The main issue is, Apple should have placed that spot where the antennas connect each other, at the top right of the phone, and not the bottom left where it's 99% of the time covered by the users hand.
 
I never said they were the same. But they have the same end result, and that's all that matters.
True. They both have the same end result, from an end-users perspective. That is until people realize that the [free] bumper / case [or refund] only cures the antenna gap bridging. It simply cannot stop signal attenuation. At least not the one Apple made this page for.

In short: People get a [free] bumper / case [refund] to prevent the antenna gap bridging, but it won't change anything to normal attenuation, and since that is what Apple is demonstrating with all these silly videos...

The technical reason for dropping signal is only relevant to engineers. So yes, you missed the point, because both of these technical issues can cause signal loss simply by holding the phone, just as you do with any phone (unless you're using a handsfree device).
The fact that you as end-user only don't care, doesn't mean others shouldn't. I mean [we] stock holders also need to know the truth, simply because it hurts the payout of dividend/stock value when Apple has to cough up more money. They [we] are all effectively part of this free bumper/case offer.

Really, those who like to argue about the two different technical reasons for signal loss on the iPhone when they are effectively the same in real world usage are the kind of people who also tend to argue semantics to a fault. This is not productive, and it's also why most people don't care and are still buying the phone, because it doesn't matter like those with nerd rage seem to think it does.
Really? Well. In that case let me tell you something. I stopped working, at age 38, and from that day on I only do what I like to do. Sometimes I work for companies like Intel and Apple, simply because I can contribute something. Or they ask me to do something for them. Like this new signal strength indicator. To make a change. Now tell me something; What did you to contribute to the problem, other than classifying people here, based on their views? What good is that?
 
Not at all surprised - felt like Windows 3.1 all over again.

I'm playing with Nexus one right now and was looking forward to see how latest Android OS performs. All i can say is that i don't know what's the fuss about it, it's mediocre at best in my opinion not to mention crappy hardware design.
 
I'm playing with Nexus one right now and was looking forward to see how latest Android OS performs. All i can say is that i don't know what's the fuss about it, it's mediocre at best in my opinion not to mention crappy hardware design.

What's wrong with the hardware design of the Nexus One?

I have never heard this complaint from anyone.
 
I love my iPhone 3GS, although that s starting to show slowdown sometimes since iOS4.

But at the moment I wouldnt touch an iPhone 4.

Why?

Because Apple are now a company I do not respect at all.

I remember when the 4 was being touted as the best phone with the best antenna due to the design.

How can they now say that all phones have this issue?

If I had the phone I would take it back and wait for iPhone 4S or 5.
 
Apple sure are going to need a LOT of concrete trucks to fill the hole they are digging. Seriously, if the people who buy the iPhones read forums like this or watched You Tube instead of Face Book then Apple would loose sales because of this attitude they have.

Please Apple, Just leave it the frigg alone now! We get it, other phones have wireless problems, wow, it's not a revelation so shut up!!!
 
What is Apple trying to show?

Apple tries to show that their phone sucks as much as other smartphones because smartphones suck in general :p. I disagree that smartphones suck, but that's what Apple is trying to show. (P.S. i'm being sarcastic). But honestly though, my nokia E72 doesn't have a death grip :) ...
 
I love my iPhone 3GS, although that s starting to show slowdown sometimes since iOS4.

But at the moment I wouldnt touch an iPhone 4.

Why?

Because Apple are now a company I do not respect at all.

I remember when the 4 was being touted as the best phone with the best antenna due to the design.

How can they now say that all phones have this issue?

If I had the phone I would take it back and wait for iPhone 4S or 5.

After using one for a month now, I find the iPhone 4 to surpass the 3GS in many ways.

The sleek and solid build quality, ultra-responsiveness, blazing speed, Retina Display, HD camera, better sound quality, noise-canceling mic, longer battery life, and better overall reception (yes, reception has improved over that of the 3GS in comparable locations, to date) - not to mention Face Time, LED flash, and twice the RAM.

I've had no issues with dropped signal or calls, and am especially pleased for the choice of having a phone with an external antenna - a choice of having the antenna encased, or not.

Having experienced it, I would never go back - superior form and function, truly a thing of beauty.
 
Having experienced it, I would never go back - superior form and function, truly a thing of beauty.

Yup - loving mine. Great thing to own and use.

I can live with "not holding it like that" when you look at the overall package.
 
Except there is NO flawed design, in apple's iPhone or in any other phone. It is physic : antennas and human body don't come along very well.

That's what a design flaw is. It's like saying, just because people keep getting electrocuted when they use this phone, doesn't mean there is a design flaw -- it's just that skin and electricity don't mix.

Please.....
 
I haven't found any video on youtube where the death grip on the Droid X is replicated. Does anyone have a link?

Apparently nobody did. In fact, if you search youtube today, you'll find no one has been able to replicate the Droid X death grip. Several people have tried and failed.

That seems to suggest that Apple are making these videos under circumstances so artificial that they don't apply in real life.

Don't let that stop you, though.
 
AT&T has been outstanding for me since the first iPhone and I came from Verizon, yes, Verizon was good never had a problem. But again AT&T has been just as good!

Happy for you on your satisfaction with ATT. I have had all of the first 3 iPhones and have the iPad as well, but am skipping iPhone 4 and any other iPhone that comes out until they are available on Verizon because AT&T is terrible where I live (Quad Cities: Davenport/Bettendorf IA and Moline/Rock Island IL) as well as where I travel a lot (Chicago, IL and Washington, DC). Thus I now use the Droid X and I can not make it lose signal with my grip as I can my 3GS and my friend's 4. But, if the iPhone was on Verizon it is what I would have.
 
Stop Posting Death Grip Videos!!

Only one single finger is required to get the iPhone 4 to drop calls so posting death grip videos of other phones having the life squeezed out of them in completely unrealistic and unnatural holds is null and void to the argument.

This is nothing more than bad design which Apple are trying to deflect from.

Shame on you Apple, shame on you Jobs.
 
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