Apple Takes on Droid X With Latest Smartphone Antenna Video

[redgaz26]

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Bad on apple for this. They don't need to post stuff. People going to apple.com want to know about apple products. Not about what other companies are doing good or bad. Steve get back to doing what you do best. !!!

 

[PerfSeeker]

Thank you for admitting Android phones suck.

There are dozens of Android phones. Maybe some of them suck, but from the reviews the HTC EVO 4G, Droid Incredible, Droid X and Nexus One are pretty awesome devices. Please try to be objective. Apple is not the only company that innovates. Can you admit that?

 

[PerfSeeker]

Give the iPhone 4 some slack. Personally, I have used a case on every single one of my iPhones because if you drop it a few times your glass will shatter without one. So I have painfully learned to keep a case on the phone. The antenna appears to be larger on the iPhone 4 than any other iPhones, once I throw it in a case i can see how it would give me the best reception over any other iPhone I would have owned... so for "ME", this is perfect. It has a huge antenna, it's not buried in the electronics of the device, and will have a case protecting it... rock n' roll!

Why should i give it slack when I have to worry about "not holding it the wrong way"? Apple should admit they made a design mistake and fix it instead of blaming the users.

 

[rans0m00]

You can't offer an open recall on a million sales a week.

If you can live with the bumper - get the phone - its great

if you want to wait til next year - get a refund.

I think they could offer a recall like that. I would think it would just be a part or two being replaced or a thin coating... I don't know exactly I am not an antenna engineer but they wouldn't have to trash the phones they got back... Just replace the worn parts and then just resell them... Maybe for a little less but still wouldn't be a complete loss. I know anytime a company is talking about losing money its a big deal and I don't think Apple has ever admitted they were wrong so would be a first on both but I don't think its impossible.

About the get a refund there are some people like me that planned very poorly and sold my 3gs before I got my iPhone4... So only real option I have is to refund my ip4 and go buy another 3gs... So the case will have to do.

 

[mdatwood]

Yeah I tried for a good solid 20 minutes trying to replicate this, in an area in which I only had 1-2 bars on my Droid X. 20 minutes later my phone still had the same number of bars, I don't see how Apple can get away with lieing about other phones like this. I understand they are trying to defend themselves, but stooping this low is just sad and is really starting to make me think differently about them. I honestly hope they get sued for it. Also, yes I'm an apple fan, but this is my opinion. I own a macbook and had both the iphone and iphone 3g before I decided to switch carriers.

I have done the same thing with my iPhone4 and can't replicate all the internet videos either. Does that mean all the people that can make their iPhone4 goes down in signal are liars?

No one is going to get sued, although I think Apple has already proved it's point and should just move on.

 

[dyates0801]

Holly crap!!! If you like it or not quit bitching! And if you do not have an apple product why are you here?

 

[montycat]

that's unpossible!

Good one

 

[Castiel]

There are dozens of Android phones. Maybe some of them suck, but from the reviews the HTC EVO 4G, Droid Incredible, Droid X and Nexus One are pretty awesome devices. Please try to be objective. Apple is not the only company that innovates. Can you admit that?

Well, I was just trying to be a smartass, not to be taken too literal.
But I guess I'll give in and reply to your comment.

Most of those phones are trying to imitate and be the next 'iPhone killer' ... so what's so innovative about that?

 

[zKarp]

... who holds the phone like that?

 

[leroypants]

The people behind this anti Apple propaganda are android trolls/htc/motorola/blackberry/google apologists.

Nice to see their stupidity backfire.

So when Steve jobs waves his hand like Obi-Wan and you mindlessly follow him, are you aware at the time you are doing it, after it happened, or simply clueless?

 

[SactoGuy18]

I think we can prove the point of the problem with the iPhone 4 by doing the following:

1) Hold the iPhone 4 (without any cases installed) in your left hand using the normal, reasonably relaxed grip where the fingers hold the right edge of the phone and the left part of the palm of your hand holds the left edge of the phone. Do you get a drop in signal reception quality?

2) Repeat the same with either Apple's bumper case or a third-party protective case. Does the signal reception quality drop significantly less or not drop at all?

3) Try the same grip with a Blackberry or Nokia "smart" cellphone, an HTC cellphone that runs Android, or a Motorola Droid series cellphone. Do you get any significant signal reception quality drops?

Since the hand grip I mentioned in #1 is the most commonly-used hand grip, we should used that grip as the baseline for whether the cellphone starts to lose signal reception quality. It appears that the iPhone 4 DOES lose reception quality rather easily with that hand grip, and that's why people are complaining about dropped calls and loss of connectivity to 3G and Wi-Fi data connections. The problem with the "death grips" Apple demonstrated are that they're phone gripping methods NOT normally used by most cellphone users.

 

[shiseiryu1]

I'm sorry....Droid X sux

There are dozens of Android phones. Maybe some of them suck, but from the reviews the HTC EVO 4G, Droid Incredible, Droid X and Nexus One are pretty awesome devices. Please try to be objective. Apple is not the only company that innovates. Can you admit that?

I just wanted to put in my few cents. I went to a friends house today and played with the new Droid X phone and I wasn't impressed. The scrolling isn't smooth, the interface is clunky (I noticed some pop-up notifications required scrolling even though there was still plenty of screen real-estate), and really I thought if all you had to do was copy Apple you could do better than this. I thought that maybe it would be something impressive but really it just reminded me of my old PocketPC. I just love the polish, simplicity, and smoothness of the iPhone UI. Maybe Apple put some restrictions on the phone so it can't do certain "techy" things...however I think they made the right trade-off...especially for 98% of the world which is non-tech oriented. Some people don't care about the user experience, they just want a "list of features" in a phone, however the UI matters to me and that's why I'm probably never going to switch away from iPhones...they care about the same things I do.

Some other companies may create a phone with a neat feature or two that the iPhone doesn't have but if you look at the device holistically it's obvious that other phone makers are still struggling to create something as polished as the iPhone OS. Jobs was right about other cell phone makers being 5 years behind. The feel of the phones is like the difference between Windows 95 and Windows 3.1 (I know I'm dating myself here).

Keep up the good work Apple. This antenna issue is essentially a non-issue in my opinion. If I had the extra money I'd buy an iPhone4 right now with no regrets.

 

[HLdan]

There are dozens of Android phones.

Kudos for Android, but there are millions of iPhone 4's.

 

[manhattanboy]

Well, I tried to replicate the antenna issue with various coworker's phones, and not a single one dropped bars or data rate. Yet, my iPhone 4 dropped data to a complete standstill. Apple must be standing at the edge of an elevator when testing these other phones. What a complete fable.

Agreed to a point. There should be some signal attenuation. Use the Cy settings and show the dB in the status bar. You can then see exactly how much you lose. (Its still not a lot though).

Did you miss the entire Mac vs. PC series of ads?

They stopped when Windows 7 came out... because it more or less is like an early OS X so the differences are not that profound anymore.

Yeah I tried for a good solid 20 minutes trying to replicate this, in an area in which I only had 1-2 bars on my Droid X. 20 minutes later my phone still had the same number of bars, I don't see how Apple can get away with lieing about other phones like this. I understand they are trying to defend themselves, but stooping this low is just sad and is really starting to make me think differently about them. I honestly hope they get sued for it. Also, yes I'm an apple fan, but this is my opinion. I own a macbook and had both the iphone and iphone 3g before I decided to switch carriers.

Better late then never to have seen the light that many of us have sadly realized

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Bad on apple for this. They don't need to post stuff. People going to apple.com want to know about apple products. Not about what other companies are doing good or bad. Steve get back to doing what you do best. !!!

It was for publicity, duh!

I just wanted to put in my few cents. I went to a friends house today and played with the new Droid X phone and I wasn't impressed. The scrolling isn't smooth, the interface is clunky (I noticed some pop-up notifications required scrolling even though there was still plenty of screen real-estate), and really I thought if all you had to do was copy Apple you could do better than this.

If your friend was on stock then he/she is not using the phone to its full potential.
What's great about Android is the ability to put custom ROMs on it, along with custom software.
I really can't explain the rom part until you just try it, but the software part is like having a jailbroken phone. I can just download something that is awesome and not allowed in the store and immediately install it.

 

[manhattanboy]

Kudos for Android, but there are millions of iPhone 4's.

And there are millions with Herpes.
More doesn't mean better.
The 1984 Mac I had was not nearly as ubiquitous as PCs, but I thought it was a millions times better. Get it?

 

[HLdan]

And there are millions with Herpes.
More doesn't mean better.
The 1984 Mac I had was not nearly as ubiquitous as PCs, but I thought it was a millions times better. Get it?

Normally you're analogy would win but under this circumstance it FAILS! Why? Because despite the bad press about the reception problems with the iPhone 4 hardly anyone on this forum wanted to return it. A great deal of people said, "If you can't deal with it, return it", those complaining iPhone 4 users kept replying that they love the phone regardless of the reception issues. Sorry man, you fail here, in this case more does mean better.

 

[wrlsmarc]

Well, i started with the iPnone original, the,3g, 3GS and now the 4. By far the best receptioto date is the iP4 of the others. As for Android, i have tired both he Droid and Droid X on Verizon. The original Droid had pathetic performance for me. Too soon to judge the Droid X a thought i know it does not do simultaneous voice and date which is a big deal for me.

I'm feeling a little bit of "BS" in this posting. How can you have owned 4 iPhones and be aware of the upload / download speed of android or blackberry devices on the same network? Based on personal experience or what you've heard?

I'm an iPhone owner, I'll never do android or any other OS as long as the iPhone stays the best product. I switched to Macs from Windows when OSX came out. OSX was the first OS that gave me the freedom to switch from Windows. Was OSX perfect? No, but even with all it's quirks it gave me an overall better experience than windows. iPhone is the same thing. It's been somewhat of a trap as it tries to limit me from teathering my phone, controlling various functions of the phone, etc.. But overall, it's a far superior experience then what I've had when owning my motorola flip phones, my nokia phones, and trying out any android phone or blackberry. The iPhone suits my needs far better than any other phone on the market.

Now if Apple ever lets OSX or the iPhone experience fall behind, I'll give them a few years of slack to try to keep me, but if they can't make up the ground then I'll switch to whatever the latest thing is.

People should be giving the iPhone 4 some slack. This is the first major hit that apple has taken since the launch of OSX. Say that about any other company out there. Microsoft constantly screws their customers and NEVER completely delivers. Blackberry products are crippled at the core with the windows mobile frameworks (I cant stand how it doesn't separate email and instant messages into different areas), the android phones have no "quality assurance" driving developers to create compelling apps.. the android marketplace is worst than the wild wild west. I could go on and on....

Give the iPhone 4 some slack. Personally, I have used a case on every single one of my iPhones because if you drop it a few times your glass will shatter without one. So I have painfully learned to keep a case on the phone. The antenna appears to be larger on the iPhone 4 than any other iPhones, once I throw it in a case i can see how it would give me the best reception over any other iPhone I would have owned... so for "ME", this is perfect. It has a huge antenna, it's not buried in the electronics of the device, and will have a case protecting it... rock n' roll!

 

[Max(IT)]

Steve jobs holds the phone like that. And he doesn't use a bumper.

Is he holding it wrong?

Steve Jobs was INTRODUCING the phone.
BTW who cares how he hold it ?
Now you know where the spot is: it is stupid easy to avoid touch it.

For some, this trade-off is superficially categorized as a 'defect.'

I'll gladly take better all-around reception, increased sensitivity and all.

My current location - Island Beach State Park (NJ Shore)

My GF's 3GS - no signal 'SEARCHING'

iPhone 4 - 3 bars.

If I were to drop a call out here, I'd not complain - at least I have the reception to actually make a call out here.

exactly that.

And, again, why haters/bashers/whiners keep avoid this video ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EfawQj-Rto&feature=youtube_gdata

 

[macfan881]

Android is a better UI and OS than IOS.

 

[macfan881]

Kudos for Android, but there are millions of iPhone 4's.

Zing. I loled

 

[wreckshop]

Public opinion has been formed by all the high profile media coverage. Nothing apple does can change it now. I mean seriously... only 206k views on that you tube vid, most prolly from this site alone lol.

It's like those verizon there's a map for that commercials. ATT tried to fight back with their commercials but the idea that ATT has weak 3G coverage just stuck in people's heads.

Wether or not this causes apple any serious damage depends on the competition. Apple is the best game in town when it comes to smart phones - for now.

 

[macintoshi]

Steve Jobs was INTRODUCING the phone.
BTW who cares how he hold it ?
Now you know where the spot is: it is stupid easy to avoid touch it.



exactly that.

And, again, why haters/bashers/whiners keep avoid this video ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EfawQj-Rto&feature=youtube_gdata

forza italialol

 

[Foxypaco]

I love reading the comments from all the Arm Chair CEO's on here. Like anyone here has any experience running a multi-billion dollar company.

 

[macintoshi]

Lol, i was last week in some of our shops.they have droidx its called here motorola xt701. Well i don't know how those fandroids(viruses) do love that clunky sh*** but i was able to test it. Well i wasn't impressed as an iPhone fan at all. Of course it has 8mpix cam and xenon focus and bluethoot. But android is by fare not near the iOS4, and the multitouching is so bad on android and the apps arent so good as they are on the iOS4. Let me say also as a real detratcor, my critics are very hard, even when it comes to antennagate. But as i said, our carriers are way stronger than ATT, so this is the test:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zz7ygfhaC68

No antennagate issue!!!!

Well there is nothing more to say than: iPhone 4 is mine;^) bye bye virdroids

 

[Castiel]

I love reading the comments from all the Arm Chair CEO's on here. Like anyone here has any experience running a multi-billion dollar company.

This.