It is a much bigger problem than a class, teacher, headmaster or school.
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Apple Taking Action After Students Worked Overtime to Assemble iPhone X at Foxconn
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That doesn't absolve Apple of any responsibility.
Wisconsin Trump voters......ask.......serious.......questions.
Apparently you don't understand the electorate.
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"We are being forced by our school to work here," said Ms Yang, an 18-year-old student training to be a train attendant who declined to use her first name for fear of punishment. "The work has nothing to do with our studies." She said she assembled up to 1,200 iPhone X cameras a day.
Apparently you believe Foxconn PR who has many reasons to lie over an 18 year old student who has absolutely no reason to lie. How Apple-centric of you.
I don't think you understand.... It's not about making China like America. It's about making America like China.
Apple believes that as long as the "Right people" are in charge, it will be ok... But then it will be too late.
Our team had to do overtime last two weeks to meet a dead line. And we broke the workplace rules to do it in regards how much time you can spend at work, without a break etc .
As long as it's voluntary and you get compensation, I don't see a problem. Deadlines , or manufacturing quotas create the problem.
Also some people volunteer for OT as they want extra income, some I know depend on it .
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To study harder and how privileged they are they there studies will mean working in a factory is not their career.
I'm very greatful I worked to subsidise my studies, taught me a little about life, unlike some Friends whose parents paid for everything .
As long as it's voluntary and you get compensation, I don't see a problem. Deadlines , or manufacturing quotas create the problem.
Also some people volunteer for OT as they want extra income, some I know depend on it .
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To study harder and how privileged they are they there studies will mean working in a factory is not their career.
I'm very greatful I worked to subsidise my studies, taught me a little about life, unlike some Friends whose parents paid for everything .
And thanks for being happy the world is as miserable today as it was then and being proud of it! Service (and I did mine) does not overide willful ignorance.Thank you for your service, sir!
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I’m shocked at the superficial understanding of these issues and the audacity of those all too ready to use words like ‘privileged’ in the context of this discussion.
When I was 17-19 years old I worked 16 hour shifts for a few dollars an hour. No paid overtime, no one watching out for me.
At least Apple audits their suppliers. Child labor and slave labor is a fact of life unfortunately. Slave labor shrimp at Walmart. Child labor adidas shoes. The US (and Canadian) consumerism demands cheap labor from underdeveloped countries and China. Every garment we wear is produced by some poor factory worker who is likely locked in to the over crowded fire trap. Some workers in China and India live in the factories that supply our insatiable desire for cheap products.
You want to stop feeding the dragon? Buy products produced in the US or Canada where labor laws exist and are enforced. The truth is, as a nation we don’t care. We want cheap goods. We don’t even care about quality anymore. Proof? Explain Walmart.
At least Apple audits their suppliers. Child labor and slave labor is a fact of life unfortunately. Slave labor shrimp at Walmart. Child labor adidas shoes. The US (and Canadian) consumerism demands cheap labor from underdeveloped countries and China. Every garment we wear is produced by some poor factory worker who is likely locked in to the over crowded fire trap. Some workers in China and India live in the factories that supply our insatiable desire for cheap products.
You want to stop feeding the dragon? Buy products produced in the US or Canada where labor laws exist and are enforced. The truth is, as a nation we don’t care. We want cheap goods. We don’t even care about quality anymore. Proof? Explain Walmart.
That is correct. It is USA that has taken a loan from China.
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China has lots of money. You can't even imagine.
The fundamental issue here is not my country, your country, that country. It is not about they have money, we don't. It's about schoolchildren. These are same in this country and that country and the other country. It is not about tribal, petty politics.
Yeah, like Apple "didn't know" this was going on. They never questioned how those Foxconn iPhone X shipping times improved so dramatically in a few short weeks? Please.
Typical. Foxconn violates labor law (and takes the hit for Apple). Apple swoops in, publicly stops the practice and looks like the hero.
Tim Cook's claim to fame was being the master of the supply chain. He knows exactly what is going on at all times with that side of the business. Don't be fooled.
This is basically Apple "outing" the problem before the media got to it. Damage control at it's finest.
Ok even if all of this is true (which I doubt) what’s wrong? The people are being paid, there are interns who don’t get paid in some places. 40 hours really isn’t that much there are people who work longer hours than that. I think this is an article that’s blowing it way out of proportion and context.
Just wait for Foxconn to buy/build private prisons in the USA to get in on the USA slave labour market.
There's a difference between working hard and being exploited. Slaves in the US south also learned "good work ethic" by being told that they should all "be a good slave". They even twisted Christian sermons to add in that very quote. Then again, if the confederacy of the US had their way, their constitution would've stated that those of color are only suited to be slaves, and nothing more.
Look, many will agree a good work ethic is a good thing to have. However, just like there are employees who aren't all that, there are companies who also walk over their workers and exploit them too. There may not be much you can do about that at times, but let's at least be able to acknowledge those cases.
Way to lower the bar! If there are atrocities happening in your nation, you can skirt responsibilities and consequences so long as it doesn't rank in the top 10 as being the worst
There's a difference between working hard and being exploited. Slaves in the US south also learned "good work ethic" by being told that they should all "be a good slave". They even twisted Christian sermons to add in that very quote. Then again, if the confederacy of the US had their way, their constitution would've stated that those of color are only suited to be slaves, and nothing more.
Look, many will agree a good work ethic is a good thing to have. However, just like there are employees who aren't all that, there are companies who also walk over their workers and exploit them too. There may not be much you can do about that at times, but let's at least be able to acknowledge those cases.
Way to lower the bar! If there are atrocities happening in your nation, you can skirt responsibilities and consequences so long as it doesn't rank in the top 10 as being the worst
I've been around in this world, saw plenty more than most people (5 years around the world on a pushbike), seen horrible jails, people with shackles, people dying on the street and much more.
I am not saying China is good, I only said it can be (a lot) worse.
Lived in Indonesia for more than 5 years, not the worst place either but also not a bad place.
Ummm, I was thanking someone for their military service. I do not know why you are going off on me for doing that? We should all thank our veterans, so I am a little perplexed at your comment.
There are non so blind as those who don't wisht to see. You doubt? Why do you doubt it is true? Do you know anything at all about this apart from what you've read here? Tnis is not blown out of proportion, this is just the tip of the iceberg. But if you are happy in your cosy bubble, then I guess that's ok for you.
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You're right. I should have replied directly to the ludicrous self grandification and linking this story with some period of personal history, totally unrelated to what's going on here. "I'm a war hero! This is nothing compared to what I did 40 years ago." Self satisfied BS!
I believe that they did overtime (which isn't that bad people work a lot longer hours) i believe that they are interns (students) but i also believe they were paid and compensated for their work, what i don't believe from that article is that they were "forced to work" people often exaggerate and blow things way out of proportion. Students here in the U.K are often required to work as part of their studies (called internships or work experience) they are sometimes paid and other times not. Rules are often broken when it comes to hours worked, it's nothing new.
I'm not saying that you are personally but isn't it hypocritical to complain on this forum that people are treated badly (they aren't) and pretend to care, then go out and buy Apple products and products from other companies? that are supposedly using "slave labour"
Haha, man are you wacky! What do you have against our military members? Without them we would not have these forums to freely discuss things. It appears you dislike America or something, why don’t you go live in China or Russia? Thanking someone for their military service should not offend you. I bet most all people on this forum have zero problem thanking a veteran. Apparently you do not have any veterans in you family, like I do and several other people do in this forum!
1. I do live in China
2. I’m a veteran myself
3. This thread has nothing to do with veterans.
4. Clearly you assume far too much.
So explain to me again why you have an issue with someone thanking a veteran for their service? Why does it appear to bother you so much? That is all I am wondering.