Apple Targeted in China by Anti-U.S. Protestors

[zulkiflim]

So much for ally eh?

The tone you set is one for disharmony, you seek to put China first.
How about the wishes of your neighbours??

A country that forces itself onto others will not last.
Learn from history... the cycle repeats.
If you wish for unity and peace FOR ALL then you should seek consensus.
If you wish for a greater China , then in time whether by force or internally , your country will disintegrate.


Look at the state of the US...fragmenting socially and politically.
USSR....no more.....
UK.. in time Scotland will seek a referendum again.....

Learn from history or is mankind doomed to repeat the cycle ?

 

[Mactendo]

China, free Tibet.
US, stop destroying countries all over the world. Stick to your business and fix your problems.

 

[freepomme]

First off I'm not a Trump supported but be careful, people have been saying he has no chance for a long time meanwhile giving him 80% of the free airtime. Now he's the Republican candidate and news comes out that the democratic party was rigged and biased secretly supporting Hillary. This in itself it a huge issue and will piss off a lot of Bernie supporters. If the democratic party splits because of this, Trump can still win. It's not that far fetched.

Just saying don't count your chickens before they hatch.

Trump is not electable. Point blank period.

 

[joueboy]

Definitely Hillary. I disagree with Trump's stance on most issues and I feel that he is a divisive bigot. He truly brings out the worst in people because he is a complete sociopath himself. Not someone I want running my country.

I can safely assume now that Hillary brought the worst on people based on your comments. Besides you cannot count Hillary out being a sociopath as well.

 

[Norbs12]

Trump is not electable. Point blank period.

All I'm saying is don't underestimate American people's stupidity. He's gotten way further than ANYONE ever thought. You can watch all sorts of news clips of them laughing at him for months and month and now he's the republican presidential candidate. Many democrats don't like Hillary and the news that the DNC was against Bernie isn't helping her now. No one ever thought Bush would get elected but there was something similar where the green party took democratic votes because people were not 100% behind the democratic candidate back then. It's time to take him as a threat seriously or wake up extremely unhappy when it's far too late...

 

[WarHeadz]

I can safely assume now that Hillary brought the worst on people based on your comments. Besides you cannot count Hillary out being a sociopath as well.

I'll take my chances with her. I support her positions on most issues, whereas I just view him as a deranged lunatic. More importantly, I don't want him nominating Justices to the Supreme Court that will be there long after the next president it out of office. I have my eyes on the prize, even if Hillary isn't my favorite.

 

[nicho]

apologies, I was honestly mis-informed about the reason my and my coworkers UnionPay card stopped working in the UK. I've corrected the original post.

Link Below, seems it was/is a bureaucratic mess:

http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/...ionpay-scrambling-sign-deals-banks-uk-so-hsbc

http://www.atmmarketplace.com/news/vocalink-inks-deal-for-unionpay-acceptance-at-atms-in-uk-europe/

looks like its not only fixed, but going to be *easier* to use in europe, not more difficult

 

[jerwin]

Stick to your business and fix your problems.

If your economy is based on international trade, isolationism isn't the answer.

 

[5105973]

If your economy is based on international trade, isolationism isn't the answer.

I don't think Mactendo was referring to a policy of isolationism so much as we need to stop tinkering in regime change tactics that destabilize foreign governments and result in a refugee crisis that destabilizes our allies. I'm not politically savvy enough to know exactly how much influence we have had in the fall or destabilization of various governments in the Middle East but I'm aware of the accusations that we played a key role.

We do have plenty of internal rot to deal with at the moment.

As for the Chinese, how much of this is really a grassroots expression by their people and how much of it is engineered by their government? Anyone want to think a government like PROC's can't round up enough people to stage these "protests" and suck in enough bored and disaffected people to put on an impressive show? The online rants are probably by paid government employees.

I'd bet most Chinese people are too busy just trying to keep their heads above water to worry about some "strategic" rocks in the ocean, same as the average working man and woman in the west. A lot of them are working in factories making things to sell to the USA. A lot of them have graduated from universities in the west and have friends in the west. They don't want a war. They want to earn a living. We don't want a war, we want to buy their stuff and sell them some of our stuff.

Only our crazy ass leaders give a crap about blowing each other up. Regular people don't want this garbage. We have so many people of Chinese ancestry in the USA it would feel really weird going to war with China. I lost count of how many of my teaching assistants at my university were Chinese. I worked with the nicest grad student from China as his lab assistant for three years to help pay my way through college. I can't imagine either of us wanting our people to lob bombs at each other.

 

[rp2011]

Well we see the nationalism here with politicians on both sides talking **it about China and sending jobs overseas, so there is nothing shocking here. If anything we should see our reflections and lead by example

 

[Eraserhead]

China, free Tibet.

Why should they free a region that has been part of China for centuries.

 

[cocky jeremy]

I am genuinely pissed by US gets its hand on our country's affair. I am strong nationalist, just like most of you love your own country.

South China Sea island is ours, I was ours and it will continue be belong to China.

We will defend our nation, even if the cost is war between China and US.

Long Live China!

Yeah... you don't want that.

 

[MH01]

people lets all get together and have a hug, Tim Cook and Apple care about US and China first and foremost. The rest of us .....second world class Apple users....have a thought for us

It simple US of A is the biggest markert of Apple goods, and China has overtaken Europe as the second and growing the fastest. It's no longer about manafacturering , it's about the consumer base now. Even if they closed all the factories TC would be grovelling to sell in China, it's the one markert TC kisses ass, and for that China, you get respect, you say how high and Tim Jumps. It's a win win for all

 

[Eraserhead]

This is China so it's really a state organized protest.

Maybe, maybe not.

 

[5105973]

Well we see the nationalism here with politicians on both sides talking **it about China and sending jobs overseas, so there is nothing shocking here. If anything we should see our reflections and lead by example

We as the voters have to be very very careful about listening to the politicians and instead really learn to analyze the data out there as to how bad the trade imbalance actually is and where the problems actually lie.

Even with China engaging in protectionist policies, the US also retaliates plenty already and yet the two nations do manage to sell each other quite a bit of goods and services as well as engage in more joint ventures than our respective governments feel comfortable with. That kind of information isn't going to come from populist news sources but the less widely read business journals. Our respective infrastructures are already more closely entwined than the headlines and the politicians would have the average person believe. I should know, as an average person who looked a lot of this stuff up recently for posts I made elsewhere on the forum a few weeks back.

That's not to say we couldn't go to war, but if we did even without using nukes, the results would devastate both economies. I don't know what's behind all this saber rattling but it is certainly not in the best interests of the average American or Chinese to support it.

 

[CarlJ]

Definitely Hillary. I disagree with Trump's stance on most issues and I feel that he is a divisive bigot. He truly brings out the worst in people because he is a complete sociopath himself. Not someone I want running my country.

But Trump does bring in the white supremacist vote, so he's got that going for him.

 

[5105973]

Avoid war is the best possible outcome. But if there is no option, war will happen.

But I am not too worried. US will end itself by its internal conflict. Blacks are killing white cops, gun owner are killing each other, homosexuals are getting married and spared SDT all over the place.

Oh yeah right, gay people getting married will end civilization as we know it, never mind that they are a relatively small percentage of the population, and even if they were the majority, people getting married is sooooo shocking and devastating and STD's never exist among heterosexuals. /sarcasm

Um, you do know there are gay people in China and they are gradually, albeit slowly winning more rights, too, don't you? Look it up.

We've unfortunately always had cop killings and gun deaths. The stats fluctuate yearly and by decades for different reasons. Our news media makes more of an impact due to the Internet but really the numbers don't support the premise of our imminent destruction. I'm 50, I've been alive through worse civil strife and the flipping Cold War with a real badass nation that has nukes that can actually blanket our country.

 

[sudo1996]

And here I am, just having bought a pair of kicks with the Nike logo in Chinese - now all the locals will be able to see I'm (a Laowai) flaunting that foreign gear. I hope I don't get beaten up!

Is it really so bad over there, or is there only a handful of those nuts?

 

[CarlJ]

Let's look at America's allies in the Pacific...

I think you missed INDIA

Per Wikipedia's article on India:

Bounded by the Indian Ocean on the south, the Arabian Sea on the south-west, and the Bay of Bengal on the south-east, it shares land borders with Pakistan to the west; China, Nepal, and Bhutan to the north-east; and Myanmar (Burma) and Bangladesh to the east.​

I appreciate the sentiment, but the category mentioned was "America's allies in the Pacific"; unless India is planning to relocate a few thousand miles east in the very near future, it's ruled out on a geographical technicality. Now, if the OP had said, "America's allies in the area", then India would certainly qualify.

 

[Schranke]

you say how high and Tim Jumps. It's a win win for all

They should demand the new rMBP then. THAT would be a win win for all

 

[CarlJ]

Oh yeah right, gay people getting married will end civilization as we know it, never mind that they are a relatively small percentage of the population, and even if they were the majority, people getting married is sooooo shocking and devastating and STD's never exist among heterosexuals. /sarcasm

Aside from his arguments being dead wrong, they just don't make any sense. Letting gay people get married (aside from being the right and humane thing to do) would, statistically, cause more of them to stay in long-term pair-bonded couples, cutting down on any contribution they might make to the spread of STDs.

Sadly, there are a surprising number of heterosexual Americans who would protest against "gay marriage destroying the sanctity of marriage", while they attend their anti-gay rally with their fourth wife or husband. Who hurts the sanctity of marriage more, the gay person begging for the right to get married once, or the straight person who has already divorced and remarried numerous times? (Not to mention a presidential candidate from the party that wraps itself in patriotism, the church, and "family values", who rants about "foreigners" to rile up crowds, yet is on his third marriage, and two of his wives were not US citizens when he married them, thus making him an anchor husband.)

 

[MH01]

They should demand the new rMBP then. THAT would be a win win for all

Ha ha you are right. Time to lobby a communist politician to get innovation in the desktop range....
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Per Wikipedia's article on India:

Bounded by the Indian Ocean on the south, the Arabian Sea on the south-west, and the Bay of Bengal on the south-east, it shares land borders with Pakistan to the west; China, Nepal, and Bhutan to the north-east; and Myanmar (Burma) and Bangladesh to the east.​

I appreciate the sentiment, but the category mentioned was "America's allies in the Pacific"; unless India is planning to relocate a few thousand miles east in the very near future, it's ruled out on a geographical technicality. Now, if the OP had said, "America's allies in the area", then India would certainly qualify.

Lol. Yeah indian is actually Asia took me a long time to come to grips with Indians being called Asian here in the UK, coming from Australia myself

 

[pat500000]

Go China! Make China great again by banning Apple!!! Tim is getting desperate each day!!! Me luv u long time, China!

 

[sudo1996]

Sadly, there are a surprising number of heterosexual Americans who would protest against "gay marriage destroying the sanctity of marriage", while they attend their anti-gay rally with their fourth wife or husband.

A secular government getting involved in marriage for tax returns was bound to cause conflict. I don't get why people worried about the sanctity of marriage ever wanted the government involved in it.

Yes, what you said, and those worried about the sanctity of marriage really should be advocating for the government to stop recognizing it altogether and recognize something like a "civil union." Then there wouldn't be all this fuss about marriage laws, Catholic (and some other sects) marriages would be heterosexual and would only involve the church, other religions could have their own possibly homosexual marriages without any conflict of interests, and maybe those hypocritical Christians who divorce twice could enter civil unions instead. I wish they had done that from the start.

There would, of course, be arguing over whether civil unions get tax returns. I personally would say no since they ought to be financially stronger if their civil union is really legitimate.

 

[duffman9000]

Yes, yes, smash those old iPhones. We know you'll turn around and buy an Apple iPhone 7 LOL!!
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Trump is not electable. Point blank period.

He could win. I never thought someone who avoids reading could be president of the US but it can happen.