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ArtOfWarfare

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We will defend our nation, even if the cost is war between China and US.

Long Live China!

I'm not going to talk about the South China Sea thing - I haven't been following that closely enough to know what I'm talking about, but war between two superpowers means the world would end within a few minutes.

Superpowers haven't fought each other since World War 2 because of the realization that within a few minutes, nuclear missiles would rain down across the entire planet and destroy everything.

Even if somehow one country managed to destroy the other country before they launched any nuclear missiles, the fallout would still drift across the ocean and would kill everyone in the surviving country within a few months.
 

LovingTeddy

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Wether you're trolling or not, the PRC would never risk a direct confrontation with the America. Notice how they realised they couldn't bully Japan over the Senkaku Islands, but the Philippines is just an easy mark so they'll continue to see how far they can push it. After a few years of blustering they'll probably 'let' the Philippines fish in the disputed waters as an act of gracious mercy to save face.

Anyway, the PRC's media can rile up people to boycott all the mangoes in the world, but it's just a way to unite people against other countries in the face of a slowing economy. the PRC desperately needs people to spend their money in China, on Chinese products to stimulate the economy. Anyone wasting their money on education or property in Canada is simply being anti-Chinese :p

No we don't. People in China are genuinely pissed by USA. Just like when our polit was killed by US years before.

We Chinese don't need media rile up people. We are fighting with Japanese for Diaoyu island as well. We went far setup our Air Defense zone in East China Sea and our naval ships are around that island as well.

Your so called facts are nothing but lies. This just shows you as arrogant Americans.
 
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Norbs12

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I am genuinely pissed by US gets its hand on our country's affair. I am strong nationalist, just like most of you love your own country.

South China Sea island is ours, I was ours and it will continue be belong to China.

We will defend our nation, even if the cost is war between China and US.

Long Live China!

Here "nationalists" are called "patriots" and they are usually idiots too.
 

Rocketman

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The territorial claims are not controversial. They are unprecedented and illegal and contrary to several international treaties.

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Don't forget Tibet and others:

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iZac

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Apr 28, 2003
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No we don't. People in China are genuinely pissed by USA. Just like when our polit was killed by US years before.

We Chinese don't need media rile up people. We are fighting with Japanese for Diaoyu island as well. We went far setup our Air Defense zone in East China Sea and our naval ships are around that island as well.

Your so called facts are nothing but lies. This just shows you as arrogant Americans.

It's just economics, mate. While the economy is still great, it's declining year-over-year here (China). <Edited to correct a factual error> The customs declaration lines are huge in Chinas International airports and Customs postal points now because they're trying to stifle the inflow of untaxed foreign goods into the country.

Also, I'm an Architect helping design and build Chinese cities for you, so you should thank me, I'm helping your economy :) When you pop back to China some time, I'll give you a tour. Remember to declare that Louis Vuitton bag that you bought for your mum when you do though!

By the way it was an international tribunal that made the ruling, not 'America', so remember to hate all global ethnicities equally. ;)

Oh and I'm British, terribly sorry to disappoint.
 
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MH01

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US will screw Inida when times fits its crappy interest. US of A is the country that will screw everyone if fits its own interest.

US of A is the self-interest piece of crap in the earth.

One day, the flame of justice will burn all over US of A.

Now let us just watch and see the internal conflicts, white vs black, white vs Hispanic, white vs Muslim, conservative vs liberal, oh and gun owners killing each other.

Do you own an iPhone ? Or Apple device?
 

Oirectine

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Aug 11, 2003
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US should get its dirty hands away from our country. South China Sea islands is ours. US is putting its dirty hands all over the world. No wonder everyone hates USofA.

I cannot wait the day USofA became second rated nation. Mainwhile, I will continue be anti-America.

America, mind your own ****ing business.

Let's look at America's allies in the Pacific:
Japan
South Korea
the Philippines
Australia
New Zealand
Thailand

And China's allies in the Pacific:
North Korea
and...
...
*crickets chirping*

Even Vietnam is pivoting to America's sphere of influence, thanks to China's short-sighted policies.
 

RebornProphet

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Avoid war is the best possible outcome. But if there is no option, war will happen.

But I am not too worried. US will end itself by its internal conflict. Blacks are killing white cops, gun owner are killing each other, homosexuals are getting married and spared SDT all over the place.

Quite the little bigot, aren't you?
 
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iZac

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Let's look at America's allies in the Pacific:
Japan
South Korea
the Philippines
Australia
New Zealand
Thailand

And China's allies in the Pacific:
North Korea
and...
...
*crickets chirping*

Even Vietnam is pivoting to America's sphere of influence, thanks to China's short-sighted policies.

Hey, if this mythical war ever happens, perhaps the ROC can retake the Mainland :D
 

LovingTeddy

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Let's look at America's allies in the Pacific:
Japan
South Korea
the Philippines
Australia
New Zealand
Thailand

And China's allies in the Pacific:
North Korea
and...
...
*crickets chirping*

Even Vietnam is pivoting to America's sphere of influence, thanks to China's short-sighted policies.

We don't need allies. USA and its ally aren't United anyway. Do you really think those country truly friend of US? They are just using US to get their objective. That is all.

American think they have friend all over the world, the truth is everybody is using American as tool. And American happies to spend boat load of money for those so called allies.
 

iZac

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Apr 28, 2003
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Oh yeah? Remember Korea War? Our military beat the crap out of USA. Given the drastic difference in power, USA lost the freaking war.

Huh? I was making a joke about poor Chiang Kai Sheck, I'm not sure that has anything to do with the Korean War?
 

zulkiflim

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Jan 6, 2008
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Let's look at America's allies in the Pacific:
Japan
South Korea
the Philippines
Australia
New Zealand
Thailand

And China's allies in the Pacific:
North Korea
and...
...
*crickets chirping*

Even Vietnam is pivoting to America's sphere of influence, thanks to China's short-sighted policies.


Actually if you look at the countries, all of them can be nuetralised once China brings the man made island online.
Countries close to China are no threat, Japan / Taiwan / South Korea, even if they have US bases.

That why China needs to make those man made islands as buffer zone. If they are successful , the US can't send their warship into the South China Sea.

China and US are fighting for supremacy.
Already the Chinese are expanding further, into the Middle East and Africa.
They are emulating the US soft "colonialism" approach. Using $$$.
 

keysofanxiety

macrumors G3
Nov 23, 2011
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Avoid war is the best possible outcome. But if there is no option, war will happen.

But I am not too worried. US will end itself by its internal conflict. Blacks are killing white cops, gun owner are killing each other, homosexuals are getting married and spared SDT all over the place.

As teddy bears go, you're a bit of a meanie. Why, you're not loving at all! :(
 

nicho

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Feb 15, 2008
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The PRC even just banned Union Pay in Europe because they don't want the Chinese middle class circumventing the heavily taxable luxury goods that they make so much money from.

Do you have a source for that? I can't find anything...
 

imwoblin

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W.O.W.!
Why is this on my main feed? So much for being a Mac enthusiast site...
I'm all for freedom of speech and all, but those of us who have been in harms way defending it don't need or want to read this on Sunday morning..
 

skinned66

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Feb 11, 2011
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The territorial claims are not controversial. They are unprecedented and illegal and contrary to several international treaties.

I've read the UNCLOS agreement with respect to this and with the declarations China has made after ratification there are holes big enough thread an aircraft carrier through. And there is a provision in the original text for them to do just that.

I'd like to include it here but there are so many links to sections and annexes the cross-referencing would be a mess. Better to use the official site.

Originally Ratified text - December 10, 1982

Here are China's declarations upon and after ratification, which are particularly important to note as they pertain to this exact subject matter

To me it looks they've been planning this for some time. The August 2006 declaration effectively clobbers the one they made in 1996 agreeing to the 200 mile nautical zone as well as having to play nice with anybody.
 
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LovingTeddy

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Let's look at America's allies in the Pacific:
Japan
South Korea
the Philippines
Australia
New Zealand
Thailand

And China's allies in the Pacific:
North Korea
and...
...
*crickets chirping*

Even Vietnam is pivoting to America's sphere of influence, thanks to China's short-sighted policies.

So much for ally eh?
 

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zulkiflim

macrumors 6502
Jan 6, 2008
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Singapore
I've read the UNCLOS agreement with respect to this and with the declarations China has made after ratification there are holes big enough thread an aircraft carrier through. And there is a provision in the original text for them to do just that.

I'd like to include it here but there are so many links to sections and annexes the cross-referencing would be a mess. Better to use the official site.

Originally Ratified text - December 10, 1982

Here are China's declarations upon and after ratification, which are particularly important to note as they pertain to this exact subject matter

To me it looks they've been planning this for some time. The August 2006 declaration effectively clobbers the one they made in 1996 agreeing to the 200 mile nautical zone as well as having to play nice with anybody.



Laws are man made ... a hopeful semblance of unity and consensus.

Until each country make loopholes and ignore it.
EVERY country does it.. Every country think it is doing the best for its own sake or the world, the mantra " we know best"

We create the law and break it when it suits us.
We force other to follow the laws and claim ignorance when we break it.

In this age of technology/mobility/globalisation/information ...hopefully the new age will herald a new beginning, the old ones are still clinging to the past.

Like Apple dumping the 3.5mm headsets.......Its time.....:)
 
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