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I wouldn't bet on any significant UI changes between now and release. If Apple plan to bring Mavericks more in line with the looks of iOS 7, then this is something that they can dedicate to next years release.

One can understand this better by the fact that Game Centre has been left untouched, while the likes of Notes have had a pretty straightforward graphics swap. Afterall, how do you de-Forstallise something like Game Centre whilst providing a suitable stop-gap until OS 10.10? The chances are that the designers focused on the apps that are used more commonly.

Scott Forstall had nothing to do with what has been the type of icons used in OS's for years now. This is in Windows and Linux.

Maybe the crazy over saturated MLP colors is fine for something like iOS, but you can do actual work in OSX.
 
This is in line with the previous releases. Both Lion and ML had 4 months between the first DP and the public release, so will Mavericks.
 
Good. I'm still waiting for Dropbox-like iCloud, a more feature-rich and stable iBooks, and an iTunes that can actually shuffle (without having to disable and reenable it to get it working). Wouldn't mind a glossier iBooks icon/flatter icons for iTunes and App Store either.
 
Yes, I know what vaporware is.

Obviously not.

there's been a long gap since the last release of significance, Apple's competitors have been releasing quality products left and right, and rumors of new Apple delays don't help.

In the case of OSX and iOS there hasn't been a long gap at all. Sure, OSX is taking a little longer than the previous one year between releases but many mac users have said that a year is too soon. Frankly I'm glad they're taking a bit longer and making it more solid. Neither Windows nor Android has been putting out major releases more often than either OSX or iOS (in the case of windows, three years between windows 7 and windows 8). And there hasn't been a single delay rumored for iOS, OSX, or the new Mac Pro. All three look to ship exactly when Apple said they would.

what are they gonna be doing to mavericks for the next two months? just bug fixes? gamecenter and reminders UI have gone unchanged. wish they would update those in the timeframe we got left.

Hopefully updates on the apps that still have the old UI and probably some other minor GUI and feature tweaks here and there, but a lot of that time will be spent chasing down bugs. Which is a good thing.
 
Apple is becoming very good at vaporware - The new Mac Pro, OS X 10.9, iOS 7 for iPad... all coming after very long delays.

OK, maybe I'm not being very fair, but nonetheless it seems like there has been a very long gap between significant Apple product/software releases.

I don't think you are using the word vaporware correctly. Since most of these were announced to be released in the fall, they aren't even delayed much less "vaporware".
 
I hope this does not mean the new Macs will come so late.

And it would be better if they shipped with Mountain Lion.
 
It's funny how Mavericks is considered so stable, yet with a later launch than iOS 7, which has been considered buggy just a few weeks ago.
 
Oof. I've been waiting to upgrade my 2009 MBPro's hard drive to an ssd-hybrid drive, as I want to do a fresh install of Mavericks when I put it in. I don't know if I can or will want to hold back.
 
By 'most people' you mean 'me'?

I'm not suggesting 'many' don't... but I suspect as least as many still see it as summer.

maybe. I don't know you.

Most people think Fall is when school starts, new shows start on TV, football starts, the weather starts getting a little cooler, leaves change colors.

Of course, most of this starts in early September, therefore people think that this is the start of fall. It's wrong, but it's generally what I see most people think. Just like December is winter. It's not! Christmas is barely 3 days into the winter calendar.
 
Scott Forstall had nothing to do with what has been the type of icons used in OS's for years now.

Anyway, the trouble is not "skeuomorphic" design as such - good skeuomorphic design gives you visual cues as to how things were going to work. No, the problem with apps like Contacts and Calendar is that they were poorly designed - at best the artwork was irrelevant, at worst it gave counter-intuitive cues.

E.g. Contacts (OS X ML): It looks like a book. That suggests that you can turn pages... but you can't. I'm a-clickin-and-a-dragging at the corners and the edges of the page to try and turn onto the next contact page, but that's just not the way it works.... its a 3-column hierarchical browser - that's nothing like how books work, so why make it look like a book!? If you're going to use the address book motif then give us alphabetic tabs!

Calendar: similar issue. Go to month view - looks like you're meant to navigate by turning pages - how do you do that? I'm a-clickin-and-a-dragging at the corners and the edges of the page again... doesn't work. Click on the name of the month - nope. It can't be those two arrows bracketing the word "Today" because they obviously change the selected day... oh wait, yes it is.

D'uh. Hope the new guys also remember that one point of faux-3D buttons was to flag up which bits of the screen you could click on to make stuff happen. Can easily imagine a future of randomly clicking on vividly coloured rounded shapes to see which ones are buttons. Actually, no need to tax the imagination - just try the new GMail and Maps apps on Android. Shudder.
 
MacBooks in October...

I want one now but I'm on vacation. The exchange rate is murder even if I pay for taxes at home. Unless I pick it off of Amazon and upgrade the RAM later. I need my RAM slots.
 
[rant]

Kinda wish they'd get more people on the development teams just so that Mac OS X isn't always placed on the back burner when it comes to iOS. I know iOS & Mac OS X share a lot of code, but there are so many things that can only be done on Mac OS X.

Until Apple adds the important producer apps on the iPad (Xcode, iBooks Author, etc.) and a few other things (multiuser support), I'm tired of iOS getting all the glory. I know iOS devices sell better, but maybe that's because Apple somewhat neglects everything else.

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Its a typical crunch period. Those guys are working around the clock right now. No need to staff up just so they can ease through a few months a year while having people twiddle their thumbs the rest of the time, or worse, have to lay off people after a crunch like some software companies.
 
It'd be nice if they'd actually get around to ship something. Guess that mantra no longer applies. Haswell's been out now for a bit.
 
Of course, most of this starts in early September, therefore people think that this is the start of fall.

Well, it depends whether you are using the Mid-latitude standard astronomical definitions or the Mid-latitude meteorological definitions..

Here in Old Blighty it is officially autumn according to the Met Office (not sure about this "fall" thing - most leaves still seem to be firmly attached to the trees)

The fact that daylight-saving "British Summer Time" doesn't end until the end of October is irrelevant, since anything containing the words "British" and "Summer" is clearly oxymoronic. To be fair, we've had a couple of decent weeks, but some years the definition of "summer" is "June 12th - from late morning to about tea time".

Also, I believe that there are a couple of people from the antipodes who'd like to talk to you about your blatantly hemisphere-ist definition of the seasons.
 
I guess the new MBP & Mac Pro are delayed as well...

Great. This means the new 2013 MacBook Pro will be equipped with a 6 month old CPU right out the gate. :rolleyes:
 
Great. This means the new 2013 MacBook Pro will be equipped with a 6 month old CPU right out the gate. :rolleyes:

This doesn't mean the new Macs aren't coming out until October. Apple has never hesitated to release new Macs more than a month before the release of a new OS.
 
<<I'm deleting my post because clearly my comments, which I'm sure you can see in quoted responses on subsequent pages, are being repeatedly misinterpreted. I meant to convey the fact that Apple's upcoming product strategy seems to be delayed from original rumored release goals - rumors point towards delayed release of iOS 7 for iPads (not iPhone), a Mac Pro which still has no release date, and rumors of OS X 10.9 delays. The "vaporware" comment was meant in jest, as I said ("I'm not being very fair" was my indicator not to be taken seriously), but certain form members are choosing instead to educate me on the meaning of "vaporware" while insisting that all is moving according to plan. While I'm certainly an Apple fan, I'm getting full-on rabid Apple fanboi responses from an innocuous comment. Shesh.>>

i still dont think you know what vaporware means. all of apple's products come to fruition, even if not when you want/expect them to. still not vaporware.

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I know iOS devices sell better, but maybe that's because Apple somewhat neglects everything else.

nope. mobile devices sell better in the entire industry because people want to buy mobile devices instead of desktop systems. back before modern mobile devices exploded macs still didnt sell great.
 
Does anybody know what the requirements will be? I'm guessing the same as Mountain Lion which is [OS X v10.6.8 or later, 2GB of memory, 8GB of available space, MacBook Pro (Mid/Late 2007 or newer), iMac (Mid 2007 or newer)]

I'm like 99% sure my MBP will support it (15-inch, mid 2010)
 
Rabidz7 is targeting Late October to spend ~5 hours removing the bloat that comes with mavericks.
 
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