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Apple Targeting Third-Generation iPad for Doubled Display Resolution?

I'm waiting until iPad X because iPad X won't be good enough and will become outdated

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Ok so folks that need the best technology each year, do you update your tvs? computers? appliances? phones? cars? My point is, living in fear of not having the best of the best will ruin you. Why wait when there will ALWAYS be something better? everyone that doesn't have an iPad and is in the market, get an iPad 2! It will be better, and if you were on the fence, do you really want to wait a whole year?
 
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The regulars on here are so right about the screen, and the camera too. I'd be happy if my iPhone 4 had an inferior screen, and came with a 1mp camera. Why would I want/need anything more? It's all just media rumors and me being naive and just plain 'ignant...but I really should just be happy with what Apple is prepared to give me.


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i eversaw said:
I'm waiting until iPad X because iPad X won't be good enough and will become outdated

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Ok so folks that need the best technology each year, do you update your tvs? computers? appliances? phones? cars? My point is, living in fear of not having the best of the best will ruin you. Why wait when there will ALWAYS be something better? everyone that doesn't have an iPad and is in the market, get an iPad 2! It will be better, and if you were on the fence, do you really want to wait a whole year?
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True, people (myself included) tend to have occasional hardcore buyers remorse...and makes us inclined to "just wait for the next geration" (ad nauseum). This is pretty substantial though...not some lame 15% clock cycle bump on the CPU. Our iPhone 4's display have us wanting more...
 
i eversaw said:
I'm waiting until iPad X because iPad X won't be good enough and will become outdated

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Ok so folks that need the best technology each year, do you update your tvs? computers? appliances? phones? cars? My point is, living in fear of not having the best of the best will ruin you. Why wait when there will ALWAYS be something better? everyone that doesn't have an iPad and is in the market, get an iPad 2! It will be better, and if you were on the fence, do you really want to wait a whole year?
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X = X :eek:

And, no, few of us need the latest / best technology each year. These items are replaced as they wear out or reach the ends of their useful lives. As for the iPad, I won't spend my hard-earned dollars on iPad 2 if the resolution is not better / doubled. I can wait. :D It's not as though it is essential.
 
martyMACfly said:
This really is a case of rumour hype that in the grand scheme of things really doesn't matter as much as it seems.

Double the res would be nice but how about double the GPU, RAM andCPU capabilities first eh? When the iPad came out so many reviews were saying "and the screen is so sharp and beautiful..."
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See, I completely disagree. I honestly think a higher-res screen is more important at this point than the RAM and other internals (hypothetically speaking.. since others would have to be upgraded). It's a basic tablet doing basic tasks. We're not running mission control here... I'm not saying that the iPad would not benefit from a better processor, more memory, etc.. but I think there's much more opportunity with the screen at this point, since that's what you are mainly interacting with and looking at.

I know many will disagree.. but we all have our opinions.
 
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LorengeU2 said:
So this discussion of the Retina Display coming to iPad is really ridiculous. First read below the description of the Retina Display as quoted from Jobs (found in MacRumors article, "Apple Announces iPhone 4 with Retina Display, HD Video Recording, More"):

"iPhone 4 will also have a Retina Display, a new display technology that packs in 326 pixels per inch, compared to the current iPhone's 163 ppi. Noting that the detection limit of the human eye is 300 ppi"

The "detection limit of the human eye is 300 ppi". This means that at any distance the human eye can see a maximum of 300 ppi. If the iPad were to double its resolution to 2048 x 1536 it would come nowhere near the resolution required to be a Retina Display.

The current display is 132 ppi and 1024 x 768 with a 9.7" diagonal. 1024/132 = 7.758 (the height in inches of the iPad screen). 768/132 = 5.818 (the width in inches of the iPad screen). At 300 ppi (the Retina Display minimum ppi) the iPad display would have to be 2,328 (7.758 * 300) x 1,745 (5.818 * 300) in resolution to be considered a Retina Display. Additionally, if the iPhone and iPod touch screens are being manufactured at 326 ppi, it stands to reason the iPad Retina Display would come in at the same ppi. This means the iPad Retina Display would most likely be a resolution of 2,529 x 1,897.

First off, that is much higher than the rumored 2048 x 1536. Secondly, do you know what other displays that is higher than... essentially everyone that Apple has ever made. The screen would be the same resolution as the 27" LED Cinema Display (2,540 x 1,920), only in 9.7".

Please Apple, give me a reason to buy iPad 2, impress me. But a display upgrade like that in 12 months? Come on everyone, you ask too much. The cost must be incredible!

By the way, I do think the iPad resolution will double, but truly double. In other words, go from 786,432 (1,024 * 768) pixels on a 9.7" screen to 1,572,864 pixels on a 9.7" screen. This means a screen resolution of approximately 1,448 x 1,086 should be expected.

Thanks for reading my first post!:apple:
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Thanks, but you're wrong. The whole Retina definition is reliant upon viewing distance, which is why, when I stare at my iPhone 4 from two inches away, I can make out the pixels. Since the iPad is generally viewed a greater distance away from the face than an iPhone, the DPI requirement to qualify under Apple's marketing scheme would be lower. As some have noted, any display is Retina if you're looking at it from a large enough distance.

Steve's exact words were: "...there's a magic number around 300dpi, if you hold something about 10-12 inches away from your eye, it's the limit of the human retina to distinguish pixels."
 
i eversaw said:
I'm waiting until iPad X because iPad X won't be good enough and will become outdated

EDIT:
Ok so folks that need the best technology each year, do you update your tvs? computers? appliances? phones? cars? My point is, living in fear of not having the best of the best will ruin you. Why wait when there will ALWAYS be something better? everyone that doesn't have an iPad and is in the market, get an iPad 2! It will be better, and if you were on the fence, do you really want to wait a whole year?
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Maybe some of us do not feel that it's worth our money with that screen and would rather wait for a better screen. Keep in mind... it IS more of a "luxury" item than a laptop and a phone. A computer (my MacBook Pro) and a phone (my iPhone 4) is much more important to have than a tablet. And yes, I do have a new 370z and new Samsung 3DTV.. but they were worth it.. they had the features I wanted. While I LOOOOOOVE the idea of an iPad and have used them many many times... the poor screen RUINS it for me. If anything... the iPad should have had a good screen before the iPhone. The iPad revolves around the screen more than anything else. Calling and texting really doesn't matter with the screen... but there's not much you're doing on an iPad without a screen.
 
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Well that seals the deal... No iPad 2 for me if this is true

Definitely just gonna get a MacBook Pro now if this is the case
 
If this is truly the case, then count me in for iPad 3 and I will pass the coming update. More coin in my pocket. :D
 
This year has shown that the iPad does have a lot of competitors, and it would be stupid for Apple to wait for a 3rd generation iPad to roll out the good stuff. :apple:
 
"Our sources say Apple has requested that manufacturers begin work on displays with that resolution for the iPad 3."
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Doesn't make sense to me, those manufacturers are in the middle of pumping out whatever screens will be needed for the iPad2 from now into the foreseeable future…apple is not going to ask them to start making iPad 3 screens yet. They can already make high density screens for the iPhone, so there's little development lead time, certainly not the 1¼ years till iPad 3 comes out. I reckon someone's got the wrong end of the stick with this story.
 
iPad 2 is becoming more and more "meh" status in my head with every new report I read. It just isn't very impressive at all if what I'm reading ends up being true, especially given the competition that's currently out there.
 
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Am I the only one who actually be less inclined to buy if it had a retina display? Im far more concerned about graphic speed, snappiness of the interface and smoothness of video playback than tiny text and the removal of any usefulness compatibility with standard iphone apps has provided. Maybe by the time the 3rd gen is ready there will be a gpu that could handle a super dense resolution and still provide decent framerates, but today I'd rather have a snappy 1024x768 than a choppy 2048x1536.

BTW for those actually concerned about "competition" from windows 7 tablets and wanting a full blow OS on the ipad...the windows tablet has been tried several times, check out motion computing, fujitsu or products like the HP TC1100, they have all failed to catch on mainly because of the full OS, its clumbsy and mostly unusable. Putting OSX on the iPad would be the death of the iPad with most consumers.
 
Popeye206 said:
Your Point 1, Disagree. iOS is made for small, portable touch screen devices. MacOSX for computers. Don't see it. Each needs something different.

iPad is not "more of a computer than a phone" because it's not a phone. It's a portable media device. Guess, I'm just not getting the point here.

Third point... I just don't see it. As it is there are already too many versions just based on wifi vs 3G and storage size.

Fourth point... we'll all know the truth soon. :)
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I think Align is a better description than merge. They'll get to the point of building both versions from a single code pool. They both have some common ground as well as there specialness.

As I understand it the iOS kernal is a branch of OSX (Leopard or Tiger.) With some very specific features and different ways of dealing with hardware that aren't supported (yet) by the mainline kernal.

Other than the Kernel the other big difference is UIkit. Which I they'll keep as a distinct sub-set of Cocoa that can run on any device including Macs but doesn't overrun the capabilities of iOS, while Cocoa remains the whole hog again streamlining the internals to a single code set.

The more the two have in common the more they get to concentrate on the specialness.
 
I dont see any of the predicted features of the next couple iPads being a big deal. Cameras? Meh. Better resolution? Meh. Other inputs? Meh.

I want to hear about the next device? Blow my mind, Apple. Or are they at a standstill?

That and I want to sync my iPad and iPhone wirelessly. Seriously, I almost never do it because it's kind of a hassle. It's so overdue.
 
i dunno about this. i'm still in the camp who thinks the ipad 2 will get the resolution increase, rather than waiting for ipad 3. the evidence, as i see it, is this:

For ipad 2 getting it: digitimes articles and the ipad ibooks resolution increase found in the 4.3 beta version ( i think that's where that originated). this is the most convincing pieces of evidence in my point of view FOR the ipad 2 getting it. also, that engadget article talking about the device and its SD slot also pointed out that it would most likely have a doubled (or quadrupeled however you look at it) resolution.

For ipad 2 NOT getting it: bloggers talking to their "sources." and people saying it's not feasible or practical for the ipad 2 to have the "retina" resolution. i'm calling bogus on these people. perhaps they're given bad tips by people in the android camps (not probable, but ya never know), or perhaps they're just being given bad tips by people who don't know what they're talking about. or they could even be making them up. now these articles are going so far as to say that digitimes got the resolution correct, but not the version ipad? gimmeabreak. that is the most out-there thing i've heard yet for those arguing against the resolution increase, not to mention the dude said "probably", so he was speculating anyway.

it's a little ridiculous, but these seem to be the two sides to the argument of whether the ipad 2 will get it. i'm not sure why so many articles to the contrary have been popping up the past few days, but the best evidence is for the resolution increase in ipad 2, and that's where my money is.

also, i feel like with the addition of 2 cameras on this device, a better resolution seems pretty necessary. but hey, i could be wrong. though i hope i'm not.
 
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