Isn’t the Studio Display the same quality? I haven’t looked closely, just figured it was.
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This is my theory as well. The SoC will be akin to an MPX module so that it's upgradeable, along with a host of PCI slots. Looking forward to seeing it, hopefully not too long.
The studio is great but I'm a bit disappointed we didn't get a mini-tower with at least one or two PCI slots... It seems we have to go with 0 on the studio or 8 on the pro, with nothing in-between. So you're stuck with a massive and expensive tower or a Thunderbolt breakout box... I guess they were never going to please everyone.
I don't think a smaller tower would be massively cheaper than a larger tower with otherwise identical specs. The enclosure is hardly the most expensive part of the system.
They stick the screws through all the Thunderbolt ports, just as stupid as soldered on RAM in a $5K desktop.
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Fair enough. I hope we can expect a significant price drop then with the AS Mac Pro compared to the 2019, assuming it ships with the same M1 Ultra as the studio as an option. Doesn't negate that I think a mini-tower would have been a nice option for those of us that need more than zero but fewer than eight PCI slots.
That's the elephant in the room here. Apple released what they did because it's the best they can do right now. 128GB max RAM and a big heat sink and fans (too big for the existing Mac Mini enclosure, essentially the Cube is back.)
The Mac Pro is going to have to fit in the cheese grater with Apple Silicon and accept 1.5TB of RAM. The post production guys aren't going to edit Marvel movies with a dinky 128GB of RAM. If they start daisy-chaining Ultras together to achieve it, that's going to be one hot machine (literally.)
Agree with your first thing... '22 WWDC will be interesting, it's the 2 year mark with one AS Mac to go.
Second thing: Looks like your AS iMac Pro 27" is now a Studio + Studio Display. Base Price is $3598. Bonus: When your Mac Studio is obsolete, you can still use the monitor.
That would require them to essentially update every M1 to M2 level at the same time, which is very unlikely. Or, the Mac Pro being two years away, which is also unlikely. The alternative is that Mac Pro won’t get a faster chip than a Studio - also unlikely. Or, they scrap the Mac Pro altogether - very much not likely given the relatively recent effort being put into it, and the naming scheme of Studio.
OR - Apple marketing is keeping things from you. That is the most likely scenario here.
See my post above. Everything about Gurman’s Jade C-Die rumour has been accurate so far. I’m not going to deny it just based on an Apple marketing expression.
That doesn’t answer my question. Apple hid the connector to splice two M1 Max into Ultra. We don’t know, just by a marketing photo, that they aren’t hiding more connectors. So my question is, do we have any evidence, olther than Apple marketing, that 4C-Die can’t happen?
No, $6000 for an M1 Ultra Mac Pro, upgradable to an $8000 M1 Extreme. Apple is NEVER going to pass up an upselling path.
Not really. It doesn’t take much imagination to know the Mac Pro is coming or to know that the starting price will be significantly higher than the Mac Studio. There’s no reason to wait for the Pro unless you need some capability the Studio doesn’t provide.
On the other hand, if the announcement caused a few people to skip the Studio and buy the more expensive Pro instead, I doubt Apple would mind.
I would be surprised if they announce the new M2 family with M2 Ultra to start with. They did the exact opposite with M1. First the low end, more then one year later the high end. Mac Pro will be extendable with multi CPUs imo..
In the spirit of the Bourne movies ... The M1 Supremacy ... followed by the M1 Ultimatum
I wonder if they will make a similar unit, and sell M1 Ultra cards you can slot in to combine them into a powerhouse.
Do these things do crypto mining?
Do these things do crypto mining?
Well, John said the Ultra was the last SoC in the M1 Family. I suspect, and surprised no one has considered that the Mac Pro will have its own ASi, vastly different from the SoC's we've seen.
I think the Mac Pro will remain the same, but with a discrete ASi CPU with up to 64-cores. Support for the same 1.5TB of RAM and 128 PCIe lanes (maybe even PCIe 4). It will also support 3rd party GPUs, one of which will be discrete Apple GPU (64 or 128 cores). They will also update the Afterburner card.
Personally, I believe this is only temporary so as to not steal the thunder from the new Studio line. With only 4 SoCs, Apple has to spread them thin across all their products. Once another gen. hits, the M1 can be used as a "low-end" option. I think the Max version of the Studio will eventually go away; the two options will be M1 Ultra or M2/M3 Ultra. Once this happens we'll get a Max mini and a Max 27" iMac.
And yeah, for the cost, this new Mac Studio makes the iMac Pro look like a joke.
Whats the betting with the new Mac Pro they change the Hardware design (to a smaller more compact tower with the same modular features, and different grill design) and completely wipe Jony Ive's influence from the existing product line up