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A thought:

It's fairly well known for most on MacRumors the legalities between Apple and Samsung. Thus, if Apple produces a television that responds to movement and voice, would this not be a [possible] legal issue with Samsung's "Smart Interaction" feature already available on their top line LED LCD systems?

Depends on who has the patents filed first. My guess is that it's neither, and they'll probably both be sued by some 3rd party patent holder company. ;)
 
How will it handle multiple people in the room?

If it could recognize people talking (by seeing mouths moving,) that could work a bit... Someone starts talking so zoom so that they're included... Maybe eye contact indicates they want to be seen?

Any other ideas for how it determines who on a packed couch needs to be in focus during an extended family conference call?

I would hope that if there was a couch full of people that the software would show all of them. That's what you'd want to do if a whole family was chatting with grandma, no?
 
Depends on who has the patents filed first. My guess is that it's neither, and they'll probably both be sued by some 3rd party patent holder company. ;)

LOL hehe the lawyers get richer ;)

No idea. I do know that whatever Apple does - even if it's identical to Samsung - some posters on here will insist Apple did it first and that Samsung still copies everything Apple does. Or that Samsung can stuff it because they've been copying Apple, yadda yadda...

Never ends eh? The chicken... or the egg? Hmmm :)
 
$2000

Just a wild hunch....but I'd almost be willing to bet a price point starting at $1499 and topping out at $2499.
 
Maybe in the future, but we're not there just yet... Cable companies barely allow HBO to be streamed onto an iPad. I can't imagine every single TV channel becoming available streaming to an Apple HDTV. Even if it's previously aired shows or live TV.

And I don't think people are ready to throw away their dozens (or hundreds) of DVDs & Blu-Rays just yet. Especially for those who like to have a physical copy of things. Maybe eventually when all Blu-Rays come with an HD iTunes copy of the film & all bonus content that'll happen. But for now I can't see that happening. But not to worry, the Apple HDTV will have at least a pair of HDMI ports on the back of it.

I love iTunes and I do buy content from there, but when it comes to movies and TV shows 9 times out of 10 I'd rather buy the Blu-Ray or DVD. I have more flexibility with how and where I watch my content currently and it's usually cheaper (especially when items are on sale).

Furthermore, Apple does NOT have a great history in negotiating rights from movie and Tv companies, or anything really other than music. There is no way they get full channel streaming rights. Most media providers hate Apple.
 
Yeah, Aluminum is known to be a heavy and weak material. It would certainly never be used in situations where weight and strength were considerations.

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Furthermore, Apple does NOT have a great history in negotiating rights from movie and Tv companies, or anything really other than music. There is no way they get full channel streaming rights. Most media providers hate Apple.

Exactly. I mean Apple could pull a rabbit out of the hat and surprise everyone, but I can't see them getting full channel streaming features from the start. It may be something like what happened with TV shows and movies. First they had 2-3 companies, then they expanded.

However this thing may not do streaming at all. It can either be downloading shows / series one by one (like iTunes), or a subscription package with a selection of channels.
 
It's fairly well known for most on MacRumors the legalities between Apple and Samsung. Thus, if Apple produces a television that responds to movement and voice, would this not be a [possible] legal issue with Samsung's "Smart Interaction" feature already available on their top line LED LCD systems?
It would only be an issue if Samsung has patents on these ideas/implementation. Apple has a lot of patents regarding TVs and TV viewing. It wouldn't surprise me that they would have lots of patents relating to operating the TV using Voice, Gestures, or multi-touch slates.

Just remembered something, what ever happened to "Cable Cards"? My old 2005 42" Panasonic had a slot for a Cable Card, was supposed to be a replacement for a cable box and allowed for more than the standard 99 channels w/o a box - but no DVR. Never happened?
CableCard showed so much promise back in the early days. Who wouldn't want to be unshackled from leasing a STB? In my opinion, CableCard died because of two reasons.

1. The TV manufacturers only included CC in their top-of-the-line TVs. I don't know about you, but there's no appeal to having CC on my main TV, since I already have 3 or 4 other boxes connected to it. Having another box isn't a big deal.

2. The Cable companies didn't fully support CC. They did their best to dissuade customers from using CC in favor of a leased STB.

Pretty much the only users of CC are Tivo subscribers and the die-hard HTPC guys. Everyone else pretty much leases the STB/DVR.
 
"I'm sorry. I couldn't process your request. Please try again later"

No response from server.

Ahahahahahaha that made me laugh, thanks :)

Even worse:

"Siri, open 'Busty Blondes' in Safari"

[wife and kids walk in]

"SIRI, SCREEN SAVER!"

(volume increases)

"SIRI, SCREEN. SAVER!!!"


CableCard showed so much promise back in the early days. Who wouldn't want to be unshackled from leasing a STB? In my opinion, CableCard died because of two reasons.

1. The TV manufacturers only included CC in their top-of-the-line TVs. I don't know about you, but there's no appeal to having CC on my main TV, since I already have 3 or 4 other boxes connected to it. Having another box isn't a big deal.

2. The Cable companies didn't fully support CC. They did their best to dissuade customers from using CC in favor of a leased STB.

Pretty much the only users of CC are Tivo subscribers and the die-hard HTPC guys. Everyone else pretty much leases the STB/DVR.

Yeah, I figured the industry would have banded together to squelch the concept. I thought they would at least charge a monthly fee as they do with DVR's, to offset costs. Guess it was too niche of a market and not enough demand coupled with providers and DVR manufacturers wanting their devices rented.
 
Why do you need a remote?

7" iPad would be even cooler.

I don't understand why you would want or even need a remote. It would be nice if all I had to do was say "show me all baseball games that are on tonight" and then a list pops up and i can say "schedule an alert on my phone to let me know when the braves game starts. Also, record the game".

I think the whole point, as hinted in Jobs' biography, is that a physical remote is no longer necessary.

I would love not having to find the remote when changing channels, increasing volume, or scheduling a show...That is the re-invention of the television.
 
"Siri, plot a course for the alpha quadrant"

SIRI: Which Star Trek Generation episode did you want to watch?

"Nevermind, plot a course for the Delta Quadrant"

SIRI: Would you like to watch Star Trek Voyager instead?

"Of course!"

SIRI: Would you like to stare at Seven of Nine again?

"You know it"

SIRI: I'm telling your wife

"I don't care, make it so!"
 
You guys are missing the point. Based on Apple's previous products, the Apple TV wouldn't necessarily be technologically superior. It's going to be remarkably simpler to use than other products on that space.

i didnt know a tv was hard to use :eek: my slogan is "if my mum and grandma gets it, its already easy enough"

i can already see it ...

"son i bought this great new tv but i cant switch the channel"
MOTHER u have to use commands 1-30
"what commands? cant i just press the red button on my remote and press 7 for abc and where does the cable for the dvd player go anyway?"
sorry mother but that apple tv has no hdmi only thunderbolt and u have to stream everything from itunes
"what does that mean? is that something on this internet?"
 
Not sure if i am loving built in cameras. Especially when the NSA in Wired magazine came out and admitted they tap virtually everything.

So, because there are very little protections for locking down the built in cam/mics, i hate the privacy intrusions. ie, Google has gone on record they can turn on cams/mics remotely on computers which are on its websites.

ie someone can watch/listen to people via the camera in their own home.

So, until privacy protections are put into place.... a bit worried about the implications.

Don't believe me:

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/03/ff_nsadatacenter/all/1

http://www.democracynow.org/2012/3/21/exposed_inside_the_nsas_largest_and

http://www.knowthelies.com/node/7124
 
Not sure if i am loving built in cameras. Especially when the NSA in Wired magazine came out and admitted they tap virtually everything.

So, because there are very little protections for locking down the built in cam/mics, i hate the privacy intrusions. ie, Google has gone on record they can turn on cams/mics remotely on computers which are on its websites.

ie someone can watch/listen to people via the camera in their own home.

So, until privacy protections are put into place.... a bit worried about the implications.

Don't believe me:

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/03/ff_nsadatacenter/all/1

http://www.democracynow.org/2012/3/21/exposed_inside_the_nsas_largest_and

http://www.knowthelies.com/node/7124

Siriously?!? Wow. Part of me says "go ahead, I have nothing to hide" and yet the other part is screaming in frustration. Thankfully I don't use my cam's for, um, non work related activities :p
 
i didnt know a tv was hard to use :eek: my slogan is "if my mum and grandma gets it, its already easy enough"

i can already see it ...

"son i bought this great new tv but i cant switch the channel"
MOTHER u have to use commands 1-30
"what commands? cant i just press the red button on my remote and press 7 for abc and where does the cable for the dvd player go anyway?"
sorry mother but that apple tv has no hdmi only thunderbolt and u have to stream everything from itunes
"what does that mean? is that something on this internet?"

Most people use a STB, with hundreds of channels available. That is WAY more confusing than saying "put on CNN". My grandmother can't figure out how to go to any channel that isn't CNN or ABC.
 
Give me a TV set that gets rid of most of the cords/cables behind my TV and I'm all in. :D

Oh and no way do I believe it will be designed like a thunderbolt display. Would be way to heavy and way to expensive. Unless there's some new technology that allows for a similar form factor but lightweight?
 
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I am having a feeling the first round of these will be less than impressive. I bet they will be good tvs but for 2 or 3 times the price of competition ...
 
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