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Apple Television Set to Include Siri and Face-Tracking iSight for FaceTime Calls?

I just hope Apple puts the proper inputs and outputs on the television. I know they're strict about appearance and simplicity, but having more HDMI connections is a good thing. Having an option for RCA plug-in on the television is nice too (in the case a receiver isn't available, or if you have a device that you want to briefly connect). Mini HDMI and thunderbolt are also desirable.

To me, selling points will be:
- 3D yes or no?
- price: how competitive will the pricing be with the competition?

It's basically a given that they'll include blu-ray, iPad and iPhone and iPod Touch control features, Wi-Fi, and a bunch of the other stuff mentioned before.

We've got a Samsung television (3D) which is 58 inches in the house. The picture is about as perfect as you can get with the current television market. It was about $3999 a year and a half ago. What I'll be curious to see is how Apple compares to the high-end televisions like the one we purchased for the house.
 
They need to speed up roll out of other Siri languages. Siri will be main feature in that tv set but if restricted to few languages then...ohhh go figure.
I got iPhone 4s and and no matter how well I speak english (not my native language) siri never get it right. Hands down.....
 
applesith said:
Just announce it already!!!
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No kidding, we need a size too

not going to lie tho, I think I'm going the projector route in my next display device.
I had a 46" but want bigger. and 55" is nice, but might as well go all out and get a 120" screen, cost isn't even that much more either
 
bedifferent said:
Siriously?!? Wow. Part of me says "go ahead, I have nothing to hide" and yet the other part is screaming in frustration. Thankfully I don't use my cam's for, um, non work related activities :p
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This isn't about "i have nothing to hide" this is about intrusion into privacy. In the world of "War on Terror" it feels more like there is a war on privacy.

If someone wants to walk around at home, with their loved one, should they have people listening? Watching? hell no.

There are constitutional protections of privacy in place, but somehow the NSA and Google say that because their spying is done by computers and watched and listened by AI, its ok. Well it isn't... spying is illegal and morally wrong.

So... i love the idea of protections. Ways to make sure my ONSTAR, iphone,ipad, computers, ps3, nintendo, xbox with video. etc.... Don't get used to spy illegally on us.

Thats all. in the police state all of a sudden, people in order to protect their privacy shouldn't have to say " i have nothing to hide" america was founded on other principals that privacy ought to be protected. Period. There is a serious legal barrier to those wishing to intrude on privacy. It shouldn't be eroded in this new day and age. which is more akin to something orwell himself would have hated. 1984 in 2012.
 
I think it wouldn't be a bad idea for apple to look down the projector route. They can be made cheaper, you get a bigger screen size and I'm sure siri etc. could still be incorporated... :)

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Please. No 3D.
 
What else is it going to look like. Apple has a very tight design ethos that cuts across all their products. So the Apple TV will almost certainly follow that path and look like a giant version of the Cinema Display or iMac.

But wait. I think Apple will completely redesign both products either this year or next so that the Apple TV will look like the new redesigned versions of those products, not the current versions.
 
Konrad9 said:
That and you can't walk around with it to show people how hip and rich you are. Apple makes great products, I just picked up a Mini and it's fantabulous, but 90% of the Apple market these days are people who buy them because it's the cool thing to own. Remember the RAZR? Same thing.

If you can't show the rest of the people on the subway that you own an expensive Mac, what's the point?
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You walk around with a mac mini?
 
foodog said:
You walk around with a mac mini?
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No, I use it to develop for iOS.

Love the herpy mcderpy fanboy response to me saying Apple makes good products but most people only buy them to show off, as most people here have every apple product they own listed in their signature.
 
jman240 said:
While I love Apple and all, this seems like a market that isn't in as much of a need of an overhaul as the tablet/phone markets were.

That being said, I think this is a good benchmark to compare a currently fictional Apple TV to. http://www.samsung.com/us/video/tvs/UN55ES8000FXZA-features

Then again, we've all been wrong in the past and Apple loves to wow us with things we didn't know we wanted in the first place. Just seems to me like they're going to be facing some very stiff competition in TVs beyond what they've seen in any recent ventures.
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The tv market is a horrible mess right now. I suspect most current players hope for apple to create a means for TVs to be profitable to sell again as they are not right now.
 
GQB said:
Wow... sense of superiority about yourself much?
Pot, meet kettle.
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Care to clarify?

I don't buy anything to show off, I buy what makes the most sense, which usually means cheaper. The only thing I've ever 'shown off' was a $150 42" display I got on refurb, and by "shown off" I mean "had people over to watch TV".
 
Nice Try

That's not a mockup; that IS the Thunderbolt display. I know trying to prognosticate the intents of Apple's design lab is pointless, but at least TRY to come up with something original.
 
mdntcallr said:
This isn't about "i have nothing to hide" this is about intrusion into privacy. In the world of "War on Terror" it feels more like there is a war on privacy.
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Agreed. As Benjamin Franklin stated:

Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
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We are not much safer and have lost the very principles that our founding fathers fought so hard to establish with "The Patriot Act" and the recent passing of the NDAA. It makes me sick to see this happening. Couple this with FaceBook allowing employers and schools full access to its site, and a myriad of other issues, makes me sad to think people buy into these acts as "safety measures" when they truly are not. Personally, I'd rather die with my liberties in tact than in a police state of fear.

/rant
 
One aspect people have forgot to mention is where the sockets will actually be placed, because commonly, they are aligned vertically so that the cables can trail flush with a wall.

The mock-up on this post only reiterates that no-one knows how this will work out, and that begs the question of whether Apple will even offer a diverse selection of I/O in the first place, what with their distaste for anything messy. Apple already want their users to stream content and believe this to be the future (even though some countries are barely keeping up with broadband speeds), and that further cements their iTunes Store as the apparent 'hub' for all our content purchases or rents. What's more, this is all going to be streamed from Wi-Fi, as even an Ethernet socket would take up a lot of room.

You can't deny that Apple, rather emphatically, are wanting to cause a revolution in the industry, but this is one case where the roadmap just seems to distant to call. At this point in time, I'm betting that they won't include HDMI in order to avoid cables and to make people use the iTunes Store. If such is the case, they have failed before they even started because barring a minority, the average person will simply not want to be locked into Apple's "video games", their movies, music, and in many cases i'm betting, a broadband speed not fast enough.
 
nfl46 said:
2014 would be fine. Take your time, Apple and make this device perfect. I am excited.
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I am selfishly hoping Apple takes a lot of time with this, because I just bought a 55" LED 1080p HDTV a year and a half ago... With my little one bedroom apartment I don't really think I can justify purchasing another massively expensive TV this year...

Wait... I just had a thought! I saw someone post on here a wild idea about the TV costing a mere $199 when purchased with a 2 year subscription. I think the poster was referring to cable companies (at&t and verizon), just like the current iPhone subsidized model, but I'm thinking Apple will create their OWN content subscription that runs directly through the ATV set or through the ATV box. I could buy the new Apple TV for a mere $199, subscribe to Apple content and cut my cable subscription, and then use my ATV box to give access to the apple subscription to my other TV. hmm.....
 
Hardtimes said:
That has to be the most douchey thing i have ever seen.

If I saw someone using one of those I think I would just shrink up into a ball on the floor and close my eyes until they were gone out of embarrassment for mankind.
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I must agree, pretty dorky setup for a iPad. Do you store a breast pump in there too, because it looks like your going to be nursing it any minute.
 
Tones2 said:
Um..Samsung ALREADY has this face recognition, voice control, and gesture control:

http://www.samsung.com/us/2012-smart-tv/#navigation

So who's copying who?
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Except for that Samsung sets have crap capacitors that burn out after a year. The Apple TV will hopefully be well made.

Of course, a lot of Apple's business model counts on an annual product cycle that induces buyers to upgrade every year or two. People don't want to buy a new TV every other year, which means that the margins on these TVs will have to be absolutely huge, which means they will be very expensive, which means they SHOULD be of exceptionally high quality.
 
Hackers delight!

Hackers will have new motivation with Apple TV's installed in bedrooms.....

Remember Apple's 1984 commercial?
 
I want it already!! Please just announce it at WWDC!! Although it's gonna be very expensive IMO.
 
Apple fanboy said:
Well I get around three meg off peak! What do you get? Better I'm betting.
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yea, i am on a new estate (it's about 2 years old) and we only get 2-2.5 Meg, it's crap!

PaulWog said:
To me, selling points will be:
- 3D yes or no?
- price: how competitive will the pricing be with the competition?
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3D must just go away. majority of it is post converted, so it's not even proper.
 
They will sell 10 billion of these. You know what I would like to see Apple build next? A powerful desktop computer that professionals can use in 2012+.
 
Tones2 said:
Viewing a 55" 1080p TV at about 9 feet. Text looks pretty bad but readable. I have the same resolution on my 23" PC monitor viewing at 2-3 feet that the TV has at 55" has viewing at 9 feet. I'm using an HDMI cable for PC connection and using native HDTV resolution 1920 x 1080 on the pc. Even at nine feet, I don't see how it can compensate for that low of pixel density, despite what any chart says. I can see the pixels.

Tony
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So, let me get this straight. You can see pixels on a 55" tv @ 9 feet but can't see the pixels in your 23" PC monitor @ 2-3 feet??

That's not right is it? You can see the pixels in that monitor too. Probably more easily than you can in the tv screen. But still text is a lot more legible on the monitor instead of TV. I think it has nothing to do with your tv not having a higher resolution. Ever wonder how is it possible that one can see an object 10 feet away extremely clearly but still may require glasses to read/see anything within 3 feets? Our eyes behave differently based on if we're looking far away or something close by. So my guess is that not being able to read from 7+ feet away has more to do with human eye than with low res. The only solution will be making the TV screen or text size much much bigger solot make it look not blurry.

Also, at 9 feet away, you'd need a little bigger TV (about 70") to make it look as big as your monitor does when viewed from 3 feet. Your viewing angle, TV's contrast ratio, refresh rates can also play big roles in making text look clearer/blurrier. Higher res alone is not the solution. 55" 1080p @ 9 feet will benefit very little (if at all) from that.

Just my 2 cents. No expert here.
 
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