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Apple Tells Reseller New Mac Pro Is Arriving in Spring 2013
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I doubt it, although it would make more sense in that machine than others. The tray based optical drives tend to be less prone to failure, and mac pro users are more likely the type that might burn a disk for a client. This obviously doesn't apply to all of them. External stuff can also be irritating. There are some configurations that have some amount of spaghetti routing no matter what.
I would love to see Apple launch a power user desktop.
Something in-between the iMac and the Mac Pro. Call it the "Mac" for arguments sake.
No need to use server components. Something that is expandable and uses desktop components.
Desktop CPU, Desktop GPU and easily expandable - I'd buy that for a dollar!
Something in-between the iMac and the Mac Pro. Call it the "Mac" for arguments sake.
No need to use server components. Something that is expandable and uses desktop components.
Desktop CPU, Desktop GPU and easily expandable - I'd buy that for a dollar!
Personally I think it will have an optical blu-ray drive.
They will drop the FireWire 400 and add 2 thunderbolt ports in the back and have 2 in the front.
As far as all this thinness talk that's just silly humor.
I hope .
Would be great as well to see Apple launch something without Xeons.
The majority of people buying Mac Pros don't need a Xeon.
Advantages of a Xeon over an i7
- Support for ECC memory
- Support for multi CPU setup
That is about it. A single i7 setup will perform identically to a single Xeon setup when based on the same processor specs. Unless the software you are using will actually utilise multiple CPUs then there isn't a lot of point going for one.
If you are doing mathematical modelling work or similar - REAL workstation tasks then they are worth the money. I know lots of people who buy Mac Pros and use them for Web Design! (Though process seems to be 'I am a professional so I need the Mac Pro')
The majority of people buying Mac Pros don't need a Xeon.
Advantages of a Xeon over an i7
- Support for ECC memory
- Support for multi CPU setup
That is about it. A single i7 setup will perform identically to a single Xeon setup when based on the same processor specs. Unless the software you are using will actually utilise multiple CPUs then there isn't a lot of point going for one.
If you are doing mathematical modelling work or similar - REAL workstation tasks then they are worth the money. I know lots of people who buy Mac Pros and use them for Web Design! (Though process seems to be 'I am a professional so I need the Mac Pro')
I knew we couldn't get through this whole thing without one mention of bluray.
Frankly, the wild speculation amuses the crap out of me. Or bores me. One or the other. Whatever you folks come up with, it'll probably be somewhat, or vastly, different when actual information is available.
Frankly, the wild speculation amuses the crap out of me. Or bores me. One or the other. Whatever you folks come up with, it'll probably be somewhat, or vastly, different when actual information is available.
No retina on Mac Pro will be FAIL
Also needs some sort of lightning dock for iPhone/iPad on top of it.
this comment is a FAIL. why the hell wouldn't it be able to do retina?
Well, I mean, every other Mac has dropped the optical drive at this point (counting the spring MBP refresh) and BR players cost all of thirty dollars at retail. The Mac Pro is supposed to be "no excuses" -- the hardware that gets it done. It's not like they're trimming options to bring the price down. Apple will include an OEM BD-R drive and that will finally be the end of that.
Really looking forward to a solid update. I switched from a Mac Pro to a souped up iMac. It's been OK. I really miss the extra drive bays, RAM capacity, and available ports of the Mac Pro though. I do video production and 3D graphics on my machine, so am one the few people who actually waits for processes to run, quite frequently. When my HD in my iMac went out, my whole computer had to go in to the shop. When that happened on my Mac Pro there was zero down time. Switched the startup volume to my bootable backup and kept on trucking. I am also bummed that my 27" iMac display is essentially going to be wasted when/if I switch back to a new Pro. I wonder if there's a way to use my iMac as a display...
The mythical xMac. I would love to see it also. Something relatively affordable (compared to a Mac Pro), but allowing upgrades and the replacement of failed components.
But I worry for existing customers that the xMac feature set will actually be the new Mac Pro. I wouldn't be surprised if the Mac Pro is made more affordable to widen the customer base so that it can reach commercially viable sales volumes.
Assuming it is coming in spring, and considering the lack of supply chain leaks, I expect that we'll get a very similar enclosure.
I think it will still have an optical drive.
Otherwise, it's really about just upgrading all the ports, and having current video card options.
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Considering that Apple really is abandoning many of the pro and scientific markets, you might be right. Considering what they did to Final Cut 10. (all the video pros are jumping ship).
But for the vast majority of the pro customers, that's actually what they need. Something with replaceable drives and memory, support for 2 video cards, but a lot of throughput to handle multiple 64 bit apps.
I think it will still have an optical drive.
Otherwise, it's really about just upgrading all the ports, and having current video card options.
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Considering that Apple really is abandoning many of the pro and scientific markets, you might be right. Considering what they did to Final Cut 10. (all the video pros are jumping ship).
But for the vast majority of the pro customers, that's actually what they need. Something with replaceable drives and memory, support for 2 video cards, but a lot of throughput to handle multiple 64 bit apps.
I'm hoping for a chipset refresh and some new GPUs (compatible with 2006 1,1 Macpro of course).
BTW, is your sig a new Clutch song?
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Bigger yes. Generally faster no. If equate the rotational speed and the media storage density then the 2.5" will have faster average access times. The larger drive means longer head seek latency on average due to farther distances needed to travel.
At 10K RPMs and up the 2.5" drives are also more energy efficient. (e.g., http://www.storagereview.com/western_digital_velociraptor_1tb_review )
3.5" are good for bulk. They also sometimes get the higher media densities first because can support a higher price point. Speed is increasingly not true though.
Given they cost the same and the Xeon enables having a single product that does cover 1 and 2 CPU packages with a common motherboard the Core i7 offers no advantage. ( besides overclocking and tweaking ).
Having two separate motherboard for both single and dual CPU packages would incur more R&D expense.
Users are going to package double digit amounts of RAM into their boxes actually do have a need for ECC. The more RAM you have the more likely errors will occur. It is also useful to know had an error if data working with is actually valuable down to the bit level.
You can muddling what is commonly called cores (was would have been a CPU back in single core days) with CPU packages.
Since the majority of the Mac line up has quad core options available, if your software can't do more than one core then a very good chance don't need a Mac Pro. ( core i7 extreme , Xeon E5 1600 , or not).
People buying the wrong Mac product does not form a sound foundation to demand changes design changes to the Mac Pro.
FINALLY - some good news!
Apple makes a lot of money on its toys.
But, the Mac Pro is the backbone, of the company.
It is the signature product. It is the product for creative pros - the architects of the programs, videos, and software which run on the toys (iPhone, iPad, iMac's, etc.)
I am looking forward to a MONSTER of a machine in MARCH. Same enclosure, maybe a little different, with space for four hard drives, a hot video card, pcie slots, built-in thunderbolt, built in USB 3.0, legacy firewire, and the latest and greatest Intel chips.
Apple makes a lot of money on its toys.
But, the Mac Pro is the backbone, of the company.
It is the signature product. It is the product for creative pros - the architects of the programs, videos, and software which run on the toys (iPhone, iPad, iMac's, etc.)
I am looking forward to a MONSTER of a machine in MARCH. Same enclosure, maybe a little different, with space for four hard drives, a hot video card, pcie slots, built-in thunderbolt, built in USB 3.0, legacy firewire, and the latest and greatest Intel chips.
What year iMac is it?
1. 2011-2012 you can sell the iMac and have more than enough money for a quality display.
2. Pre-2011 27" likely functions in "target display mode".
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3924
the "sell and buy" option is avaialble here also but increasing not likely to cover cost of high gamut monitor. Would have to settle for the more economical IPS panels.
This makes sense, especially considering Apple's withdrawal of Mac Pro sales from the EU due to the design of the current ensclosure not meeting the new EU standards. Not much point modifying the old enclosure if the new Mac Pro will be out in the next 1-2 months.