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The FEW things I quoted as innovations as small as they may seem are quite the innovations compared to other camps.

To me it sounds like nothing Apple does makes you happy. So I ask myself, what is your point of being here?? To **** in everyone’s Apple Cheerios?? To bash Apple at any rumor??? I don’t understand you.

Who are you trying to convince that Apple isn’t innovating? A forum full of Apple fans??

Your Apple bashing makes you completely transparent.

You do not get it. Being a long time Apple users, we strongly disagree with Apple direction and we are in our right to bring it out, in addition, to vote with our wallets, which many of us has been doing more often, since the more users that complain the more Apple will listen.
You can see the results in declining sales due to obscenely overpriced products, Stock dropped almost 40%, reduced future guidance.
It looks the path they are going it is not looking promising, both innovation and quality of the products both declined.

It is sad that took Apple:
- 5 years to listen to the Pro community to put out a new Mac Pro
- 4 Years to put a new Mac mini, with exactly the same casing ??? really?
- 10 years to upgrade the external design of the iMac.
- A Macbook Pro line up that is a complete failure and does not make sense whatsoever. Including all the problems with the T2 chip, keyboard and so on. Not only is not innovative, but way overpriced.

Shady issues about MacBook Pro

Obviously, Apple listens faster when affects the iPhone since due to the obscene overpricing and less sales they starting discounting in Japan and China. Sadly, Cook's poor solution is to improve the trading program?? or are Apple engineers so out innovating ideas that they are thinking of bringing back and obsolete product such as the iPod?? That is pathetic.

You can choose to ignore the issues and say that Cook is the best, but reality says otherwise.

What is happening to Apple?
 
You do not get it. Being a long time Apple users, we strongly disagree with Apple direction and we are in our right to bring it out, in addition, to vote with our wallets, which many of us has been doing more often, since the more users that complain the more Apple will listen.
You can see the results in declining sales due to obscenely overpriced products, Stock dropped almost 40%, reduced future guidance.
It looks the path they are going it is not looking promising, both innovation and quality of the products both declined.

It is sad that took Apple:
- 5 years to listen to the Pro community to put out a new Mac Pro
- 4 Years to put a new Mac mini, with exactly the same casing ??? really?
- 10 years to upgrade the external design of the iMac.
- A Macbook Pro line up that is a complete failure and does not make sense whatsoever. Including all the problems with the T2 chip, keyboard and so on. Not only is not innovative, but way overpriced.

Shady issues about MacBook Pro...

Obviously, Apple listens faster when affects the iPhone since due to the obscene overpricing and less sales they starting discounting in Japan and China. Sadly, Cook's poor solution is to improve the trading program?? or are Apple engineers so out innovating ideas that they are thinking of bringing back and obsolete product such as the iPod?? That is pathetic.

You can choose to ignore the issues and say that Cook is the best, but reality says otherwise...
We're voting with our dollars also as I'm seeing more Iphone Xs max around me. But I agree that revenue didn't hit an all-time high for this coming fiscal quarter. Something Apple is going to have to work hard to overcome. They also need a good strategy in China.
 
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We're voting with our dollars also as I'm seeing more Iphone Xs max around me. But I agree that revenue didn't hit an all-time high for this coming fiscal quarter. Something Apple is going to have to work hard to overcome. They also need a good strategy in China.

That you are seeing more Xs phone means nothing. If they are selling so much, why are they cutting production by 10%, reducing prices and lowering revenue guidance?

Actually, it seems that the latest launch was one of the worse iphone launches. What matters are the overall numbers, and the sales unit numbers are down due to the obscenely expensive prices.

More than new features, they need to figure out how to bring the prices down and not by trading old phones. It seems that users are getting tired of being ripped off by raising prices every year with no major innovations whatsoever (and by the way, upgrading internal components is not innovation).
 
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That you are seeing more Xs phone means nothing. If they are selling so much, why are they cutting production by 10%, reducing prices and lowering revenue guidance?

Actually, it seems that the latest launch was one of the worse iphone launches. What matters are the overall numbers, and the sales unit numbers are down due to the obscenely expensive prices.

More than new features, they need to figure out how to bring the prices down and not by trading old phones. It seems that users are getting tired of being ripped off by raising prices every year with no major innovations whatsoever (and by the way, upgrading internal components is not innovation).
Good opinions as to why “sales are down”, although sales have not been officially reported yet.

(And by the way adding memory isn’t innovation either)
 
Good opinions as to why “sales are down”, although sales have not been officially reported yet.

(And by the way adding memory isn’t innovation either)

Understanding the mess of the iPhone line up and pricing.
 
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