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Apple Tells Suppliers to Expect Strong MacBook Pro Shipments Going into 2017
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You guessed it. Purchased two new Pro's to sit nicely at my usual table in Starbucks, while conducting business, with my flashy stainless Apple Watch, along with my flashy new iPhone 7 Plus. I love having the newest shiny Apple toys. (Oh, almost forgot to mention my flashy Starbucks drink I order daily, I ordered a Venti soy latte non-fat, with no whip cream, steamed, not frothed, no sugar.)
It's like the predictors of doom for the iPhone 7 because it wasn't compelling enough and, worst of all, not having a legacy 3.5mm plug would be an insurmountable challenge. At the end of the day, people love em and Apple can't build em fast enough. Despite the trolls on MR, over just the next 12 months, well over two hundred million people throughout the world will buy the iPhone 7 and tens of millions will buy the new MacBooks .
There were times when I've used to liked apple hardware (it is changed now, but I only migrated from iMac to proper gamer's desktop, MBP & MB Air still in use), but I never liked it software - I'm booting in Mac OS once in a year: to upgrade it
Mac OS is fine if you only using browser & X Code, but I don't need X Code and games and Visual Studio are better in Windows, and I have Linux in docker and VM for everything else.
Right. Currently they are desktop chips. You can get a laptop with anything in it really but it's not much of a laptop.
i don't know why intel is dragging it's feet here but alas.
Now this does not excuse apple from updating it's desktop machines :-/
First off, you have (for all intents and purposes) a brand new maxed out 2015 machine....other than form factor and weight why in the world would you be in need of an upgrade so soon?
Second....do you really think a regular headphone jack and one with an optical interface at the end are the same size?
Of course I don't need to upgrade, but for various reasons I thought it might be economical to try to get a good price on a 1-year old machine with AppleCare that Apple still charges a (freaking) lot for. I also have a temporary cash problem that will (hopefully) be resolved in a month when the new ones ship. So I thought I could kill two birds with one stone.
Second, I'm genuinely interested in the new screen and its potential for pro-level photography work.
And finally, it's not the biggest piece of circuitry inside the port. Given how much else was cut they could've certainly kept it if they wanted to. I believe they didn't want to in part because they want to kill it off entirely. This may be why they moved the jack further away from the user as well.
I'm sure not many people use optical, but for those that do it's a major drawcard to the Mac platform and one I frequently lauded in audiophile forums.
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add 110+ dollars or more to the base price.....
. seriously, what ive been told by apple tech support and in stores, unless you buy the macpro 15" with discrete graphics or imac i7 it wont do what you want it to do very well... and thats edit photos and some basic video editing. yes, thats what im was told, so dont flame the delivery boy!!!Yes, if Apple thinks so highly of the Touch Bar then they should have done a "just one more thing". Picture Phil saying, "The Magic keyboard gives you the same amount of Touch Bar as the notebooks, but the Apple keyboard gives you 55% more Touch Bar. Look at how many more emojis you can see."
What I find to be the biggest slap in the face, ignoring the slower RAM, is the inability to CTO the 3.3 GHz Core i7 in the model without a Touch Bar.
You've got to be kidding me. I'm running 250 + tracks in ProTools HD for an Imax Immersive 12 channel mix here on a (tired) 2013 15" MBP - I can plug my system into the monitoring system of a mixing theatre or cut at home in my back room. I do this for a living, but now I'm surprised to find out that I'm not a professional. Thanks internet.
Dear Miss a Lot, in addition to waterproofing, there was a 14% bigger battery, duo speakers and larger Taptic engine--three significant improvements you missed.
As far as "waterproofing," you should use the correct term, "water resistance." None of the phones are waterproof. Removing the headphone jack leads to improved water resistance. Apple never said having a headphone jack means you can't have a water resistant phone, but it makes it more difficult and you have to cut other corners to deal with it, and is a potential failure point. It's one of the reasons the new Google Pixel can't meet the same standard for water resistance as the iPhone. It's also why Samsung phones have performed poorly in some tests, e.g., Consumer Reports, on water resistance.
Look at what people were saying back in 2013 about the Macbook Pro .... https://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/1244m4/apples_13_macbook_pro_pricing_is_batshit_insane/
The comments sound very similar to todays.
Yep. It's very simillar. And Apple knows that.. It's a cycle
. The product is released -> The hate begins -> Customers are getting used to it -> ???? -> Profit. Consumerism at it's finest 
Are you serious? Even on the 15"? Please say it ain't so! I use and love optical as an interface to my DAC.
I was seriously considering an upgrade from my maxed out 15" 2015 Pro but that could be the straw that broke the camel's back. I could handle losing the SD slot, I could handle losing HDMI. I thought I could even handle the flat keyboard and loss of Magsafe. But this one stings.
Why Apple? How much did you save by cutting a feature that made no difference to the form factor and which some users really loved?
I'm so seriously!
I guess we don't know for sure; the 13" non-touch does not have optical out. Suppose there's still a chance, but I find it unlikely. Like you it was my preferred output for my DAC (Creative E5); it freed up a USB port too. Hope it's kept, but not counting on it.
And what about those headphones that you plug into the Mac? You can't plug them into the iPhone. And the ones that plug into the iPhone? They don't plug into the Mac.
I was afraid of this - there's so much pent up demand that anything they released would have been a success. Apple will miss the lesson they need to learn - price hikes and gimmicky tool bars do not a pro machine make.
The dongles are annoying, but that's temporary. The mediocre performance and price increase are the real issue.
The dongles are annoying, but that's temporary. The mediocre performance and price increase are the real issue.
WHAT!?!?!
Oh my god the room is spinning, the ground is opening up in fire and brimstone!
How does this matter, at all?
Which these can't and won't. There's no significant performance improvement over the 2013/4/5 models.
True professionals don't care about the price or dongles. They don't. But they hate having to use them.
Everyone's computing needs are different. Yours, as far as the laptop is concerned, seemingly could be met with a $300 Windows laptop (SSH and small compute jobs). Your work horse is a supercomputer. People without access to those may have legitimate beef with Macs falling behind Windows counterparts in performance.
You can just switch the Touch bar to always show the function keys. You might have problems to touch type them but my guess would be that most touch typists cannot touch type the function keys (to rarely used to bother learning).
Because, according to Apple, they designed the Lightning connector to be "a great digital audio connector" and there are "over 900 million Lightning-enables devices" making it "perhaps the largest digital audio connection in the world".
So, according to Apple, it would be very useful.
