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Any pocketed food or prepared food along with carbonated drinks might cause this. Even the protein business is catching with the younger generation where they think that body can be fixed with proteins and vitamins through bottled/packaged stuff. Eventually, they create diabetic patients all these years by force throating sugar in everything now reversing it through business (Diabetes business is multi trillion dollar scam). Long live illuminates!
 
Not so. They sample the interstitial fluid not the bloodstream. The two do correlate together (typically a 15min delay between the two). One version last 10 days and another 15 days. Many type 2 diabetics also self-fund a CGM (continuous glucose monitor) to monitor the "realtime" effects of food intake. True that type 1 diabetics get a CGM free in the UK from the NHS. Not so true for other types of diabetics.
This is why measuring blood glucose with light would be huge - it would be non-invasive, low lag, and presumably wouldn't involve disposable devices that cost an arm and a leg. I'd be willing to bet medical companies are buying patents regarding this left and right, and then shelving them, to protect their current products... Anyway, if Apple can pull this off, and survive the inevitable patent challenges from trolls, it would be reason enough to buy an Apple Watch on its own for many people.
 
Not so. They sample the interstitial fluid not the bloodstream. The two do correlate together (typically a 15min delay between the two). One version last 10 days and another 15 days. Many type 2 diabetics also self-fund a CGM (continuous glucose monitor) to monitor the "realtime" effects of food intake. True that type 1 diabetics get a CGM free in the UK from the NHS. Not so true for other types of diabetics.
There are a few varieties of the sensors as well... Dexcom One+, lacking integration with the API I believe, and Dexcom Stelo for type 2, as opposed the pricier G6/7. The Abbott Lingo, again marketed at Type 2, and I think athletes, as opposed the more expensive Libre/2/3 varieties.

Link below... I didn't have the Rio mentioned from Abbott.
 
There are a few varieties of the sensors as well... Dexcom One+, lacking integration with the API I believe, and Dexcom Stelo for type 2, as opposed the pricier G6/7. The Abbott Lingo, again marketed at Type 2, and I think athletes, as opposed the more expensive Libre/2/3 varieties.

Link below... I didn't have the Rio mentioned from Abbott.

Must be US marketing versions. AFAIK the UK versions work for all types of Diabetes - measuring Glucose is universal. Dexcom 1+ is merely the latest version (still with some problems). The Abbott Libre is marketed in the 2+ version for general purchase with the 3 version only available for the NHS to purchase and prescribe.

 
I read awhile ago that the device was currently the size of an iPhone. With hundreds of millions of people overweight or obese, maybe it's time to release the device as it is so millions of lives can be saved. Apple releases Vision Pro but not this? That's a really stupid decision.
 
Not so. They sample the interstitial fluid not the bloodstream. The two do correlate together (typically a 15min delay between the two). One version last 10 days and another 15 days. Many type 2 diabetics also self-fund a CGM (continuous glucose monitor) to monitor the "realtime" effects of food intake. True that type 1 diabetics get a CGM free in the UK from the NHS. Not so true for other types of diabetics.
I'm in this camp. I am type 2 and have to buy Dexcom G7 out of pocket. I have some reasons why I need this, and my doctor attempted to get it through insurance multiple times. However they will not approve it unless I was on insulin, which I am not at this time. But I do get dangerous lows, which is why the sensors are still a medical necessity (Especially during the night. It gets very dangerous and the Dexcoms have quite literally saved my life multiple times now.)

So I have to pay it each month, 3 sensors for around $170. They each last, usually 10 days. However Dexcom's quality seems to have been getting worse over the past few months and don't last as long, not sure why. I'm also getting failures more often, which requires replacing the sensor entirely - which is a big cost.

You can file a "claim" through Dexcom, to try and get some compensation for a failed sensor. So far I've tried 3 times, when they've died very quickly, within 4 days or so. And I was never given any replacement or refund, so go figure.


They do have a consumer OTC version coming out sometime soon, or may already be out? That doesn't require a prescription and may have something "less" than the prescription ones. I'm not sure on the details. But I'm again going to assume that these won't be very affordable.

So if Apple could get a watch type device, or even skip that for now like a few others have mentioned - IF they have a non-invasive sensor, that is definitely a worldwide game changer. I know it isn't the Apple way, but if they just packaged it up into something relatively small, it'd still most likely be very usable and useful for SO many people.

Then, shrink it and put it in the Watch. Even better. I'd buy one just for that alone in a heartbeat. But in the meantime, if they have something that could pass all regulatory rules, etc. then that would still be a huge win if it was released in some other form. But, I'd love and can't wait to hopefully see it in the Watch as soon as they can possibly get it there.
 
I'd be willing to bet medical companies are buying patents regarding this left and right, and then shelving them, to protect their current products
Very sadly, you are so right. Happens with everything, especially medical patents.
There could easily be tons of insanely great devices out there that could-be, but never will-be. All due to being buried so they can't be used, or only used if someone is willing to purchase it for billions of dollars or more.
 
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Just curious, does anyone have a glucose measuring device of any size that does not require a blood sample?

If Apple has developed new medical technology the world needs, are they saving it until they can fit it in a watch?
Technically the Samsung Galaxy Watch 7 can do it, but Samsung doesn't promote it, which is likely a good thing, because reviews says it isn't very accurate. One review I read wrote that it can report if your levels are way off, so maybe slightly useful? Samsung likely wanted to beat Apple to it, but couldn't produce a reliable instrument.

If rumors are starting at some point that Apple will release glucose measuring in the Apple Watch, I will stock up on AAPL. It will definitely jump on the official release. Non-invasive glucose meassurering will be an amazing thing globally.
 
Well, both Abbott and Dexcom have small sensors that stick to a skin and stay for 10-14 days, continuously measuring glucose levels in the interstitial fluid. They still require an initial insertion prick with a needle, but once every 14 days is still way better than 4-5 finger-pricks a day.
There’s a new company Glucotrack that is testing a new type of cgm called CBGM that uses blood instead of the intestinal guild to determine your boood sugar levels, then there is eversense implanted cgm which tests intestinal fluid but instead of 10 to 14 days wear time its for one year (new one that coming can be worn for 2 years)
 
Just curious, does anyone have a glucose measuring device of any size that does not require a blood sample?

If Apple has developed new medical technology the world needs, are they saving it until they can fit it in a watch?
Yes. The Dexcom G6 and G7 do not require blood samples.
 
Technically the Samsung Galaxy Watch 7 can do it, but Samsung doesn't promote it, which is likely a good thing, because reviews says it isn't very accurate. One review I read wrote that it can report if your levels are way off, so maybe slightly useful? Samsung likely wanted to beat Apple to it, but couldn't produce a reliable instrument.

If rumors are starting at some point that Apple will release glucose measuring in the Apple Watch, I will stock up on AAPL. It will definitely jump on the official release. Non-invasive glucose meassurering will be an amazing thing globally.

Yeah something like this if you can’t do it right it’s dangerous to try to do it at all. Seems all the responses say at least a needle is required but they’ve gotten less unpleasant. But still no actual looking through the skin, accurate method.

If Apple can do this at all I feel like they should be licensing out the tech to get it out there, watch or not.
 
I read awhile ago that the device was currently the size of an iPhone. With hundreds of millions of people overweight or obese, maybe it's time to release the device as it is so millions of lives can be saved. Apple releases Vision Pro but not this? That's a really stupid decision.

a prototype that is that size is far, far, FAR away from an implementable product that is.

they are better off working to make the tech smaller so they can use it in their own devices. If that fails totally, like the Apple Car, I'm sure then they will see what they can do with it otherwise.

Finally, the exciting part is if it was incorporated into your watch. If it is the size of an iphone but you have to...wear it? There are already continuious glucose monitors that are smaller than that.
 
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For Type 2s, maybe. For Type 1s, you have no idea what you are talking about.

Agreed but a majority of people are type 2.

Genetics does play a factor but much of the type 2 is caused by poor diet and lack of exercise.

Looking at the stats, they show that type 2 has gotten much worse over the last 10 years.

Eliminating sugars and controlling carbs goes a long way to preventing pre-diabetes and pre-diabetes developing into diabetes.
 
I'm surprised no one's posted this yet.

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An app is fine but the best solution is to prevent diabetes before a person gets it.

For most people, that's watching their diet and exercising.
It sounds like this app will help them make good choices about eating to limit blood sugar spikes so it seems like it is doing what you recommend.
 
There’s a new company Glucotrack that is testing a new type of cgm called CBGM that uses blood instead of the intestinal guild to determine your boood sugar levels, then there is eversense implanted cgm which tests intestinal fluid but instead of 10 to 14 days wear time its for one year (new one that coming can be worn for 2 years)

The problem with implanted CGM systems is that one needs a Dr to put them in place and remove, whereas the sensors can easily be applied/removed by the patients themselves. I also remember seeing a YouTube clip of a German (?) company developing a device measuring the blood sugar with a sort of a clip placed on a skin between a thumb and an index finger, but I did not follow up and don’t think they had made it to the mass market yet.
 
Good to know. Expecting to see any kind of update from Apple regarding this only in a few years time.
 
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Just curious, does anyone have a glucose measuring device of any size that does not require a blood sample?

If Apple has developed new medical technology the world needs, are they saving it until they can fit it in a watch?
Yes. It's called eating less carbs than 100g a day and you won't need a blood sample to know that your blood sugar will be fine and stable.
 
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