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Apple Testing A5X Variant in iPhone Prototype Disguised in iPhone 4/4S Body?

ummmmmmmm i hope not cause if they are testing it in the 4S case then they are testing it with the same silly small screen and that is terrible news.... if they come out with another phone the same size boredom will set in and decline will start:mad:
 
Apple won't put the A5X inside the next iPhone, why? Because it's unnecessary. The A5X as it is in the new iPad uses more power than the entire iPhone 4S uses. It would be graphics overkill (unless they upped the screen res on the new iPhone). The new iPad needed the quad core gpu to drive the 3.x million pixels, an iPhone carries no where near as many so it just isn't needed.

My predictions remain as 1GB ram, redesigned body, LTE, upgraded cameras (both back AND front) and iOS 6 as it's major upgrades. I think it will keep the same A5 as the iPhone 4S. If they did anything to improve it they may increase the clock speed to match the iPads 1Ghz but I DOUBT it. The battery is tiny in the iPhone and they'll need to keep the CPU speed down to allow LTE to not impact the battery life of the thing too much. I also think that they will NOT increase the screen size. They are saving this for the 7th generation iPhone which they will increase the screen size to (around) 4.3" AND increase the resolution to (around) 1200x800 (or to keep in line with the 'double the resolution' will increase it to up to 1920x1080 :)o). The latter seems beyond overkill and unnecessary though.

I believe the next BIG internal upgrade (for cpu at least) will be with the iPad 4. That will bring the A6 (probably quad core) and integrate the next PowerVR series chips for even better graphics performance, as well as a better front camera, potentially better back camera (probably no more than 8mp) and weight/thickness reductions (the ipad 4 will be the thinnest and lightest ipad yet!) and to top it all off 128gbs of storage.

Just what I think & I in no way actually know what they will do.

Also Siri will leave beta later this year.
 
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It's virtually a certainty that Apple is prototyping a variety of devices with A5X chips so this isn't much of a rumor.
 
ArmCortexA8 said:
Hi all

Lets follow this processor lineage to figure out some things.

1. iPad 2 was the first device to use the A5 processor and the rest followed
2. iPhone 4 had A4 Processor
3. iPhone 4S has A5 Processor
4. iPad 3 was upgraded to A5X (intead of A6) - Dual Core CPU with Quad Core GPU.
5. iPhone 5 looks set to have same A5X Processor as iPad 3
6. iPod touch uses A4 processor still.

Ok, notice something here. The iPad 2 was the first device to use the brand new A5 processor, yet the iPad 3 never introduced the A6 which would be logical based on the past. Makes me ponder why the new iPhone wont use an A6 processor, and then the next iPad uses an A6 as well.
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didn't it go

iphone4(2010)
ipad2(2011)
iphone4s(2011)
ipad3(2012)
iphone5.....

So things are based off the iPad now...?
 
x-evil-x said:
didn't it go

iphone4(2010)
ipad2(2011)
iphone4s(2011)
ipad3(2012)
iphone5.....

So things are based off the iPad now...?
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Things were actually always based off the iPad since the first was the first iDevice to use the A4 chip! Then the iPhone 4 also used the A4, iPad 2 A5, iPhone 4S A5.

I still am willing to put money on the iPhone 5 NOT having the A5X.
 
macbook pro i5 said:
Not so with the Galaxy Nexus and HTC one x:) and ofcourse the samsung galaxy s2
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HTC One X is a snapdragon S4 domestically so it can do LTE. It's actually faster than the Tegra chip because it is qualcomm's next generation architecture and isn't A9 based like the Tegra is.

The GNex is TI and isn't slow simply because they aren't any craptastic skins on top of it.
 
chrmjenkins said:
HTC One X is a snapdragon S4 domestically so it can do LTE. It's actually faster than the Tegra chip because it is qualcomm's next generation architecture and isn't A9 based like the Tegra is.

The GNex is TI and isn't slow simply because they aren't any craptastic skins on top of it.
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No,Android 4.0 aka ic cream sandwich has been optimized to run on the GN its a fact.the one x is still quad core it has lots of raw potential that has been left untapped just you wait for the optimization.:)
 
Love these rumors, but where are the Mac rumors at, aren't those supposed to updated first? Bring on a MacBook redesign
 
fertilized-egg said:
I'll be more than happy with A5 in iPod Touch as long as pricing is kept the same. A5 is still an extremely capable chip, especially in graphics.
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Of course. In an iPod touch it wouldn't matter since you can upgrade anytime. But for an iPhone, I'd want the top of the line product since it has to last for 2 years.
 
macbook pro i5 said:
No,Android 4.0 aka ic cream sandwich has been optimized to run on the GN its a fact.the one x is still quad core it has lots of raw potential that has been left untapped just you wait for the optimization.:)
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Of course it has. Every google android release has a reference platform and device.

The One X is not quad core in the US. At least not on AT&T or Verizon.
 
chrmjenkins said:
Of course it has. Every google android release has a reference platform and device.

The One X is not quad core in the US. At least not on AT&T or Verizon.
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Well then thats your carriers problem isn't it:p sorry to sound harsh but im international user I could care less for the U.S version.
 
littyboy said:
Of course. In an iPod touch it wouldn't matter since you can upgrade anytime. But for an iPhone, I'd want the top of the line product since it has to last for 2 years.
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True that. I just don't think an A5X "variant" makes sense in an iPhone and think this rumor is bogus. A5X was basically a special edition chip that was made to power the extra high resolution of the new iPad display even at the expense of very large chip size and relatively high power consumption. An iPhone doesn't have the same requirements.
 
justperry said:
Is it?
The A5X is much bigger, dissipates a lot more heat and consumes a lot more battery.
Or is the A5X a higher clocked A5 with additional quad core Graphics?
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It's bigger because Apple added 2 more GPU cores while staying on the same 45 nm process. There's no way they could increase the clockspeed while doing so (no thermal overhead), so they just made the chip physically wider. The CPUs of the A5 and A5X are identical. Apple moved some things around and did go with four 32-bit wide LP-DDR2 memory controllers but only the GPU can access all 4 channels. It's a heck of a chip, and the best Apple could do in the timeframe for a March release. But it's an A5 with 2 more GPU cores.

Anand explains it much better than I ever could.
 
Riemann Zeta said:
There is no way that a chip as large as the A5X will ever be anywhere near an iPhone. Besides, what would the point be? The A5X is identical to the A5 CPU-wise. I also cannot see Apple changing the resolution of the display again, so the iPhone 2012 will either be the standard 3.5" or something very close (say, 3.7"). If Apple decided to go with the GiantPhone approach and adopt the huge 4.5-5" screen of certain Android phones, they would have to eat their words with respect to the "retina" marketing terms.

I honestly think that Apple has no clue what to do with the SoC for the iPhone 2012. The A5 is pretty ample for a phone (barely a handful of apps can even make use of two CPU cores) and Apple is stuck with the 45 nm lithography process for another year, so there is really no way of adding features or upping the clock speed without sucking up a lot more power.
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I agree with all this. This rumor doesnt pass the smell test.
 
Rocketman said:
Gee, I wonder if the late 2012 iPhone A5 will in any way be improved over the early 2011 iPad A5? The chips installed in the iPad were made less than 2 months before actual delivery of the device.

Tick-tock.

Rocketman
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it would seem strange if they used a chip made in early 2011 for a later 2012 phone.
 
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