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I lose WiFi on my iMac occasionally and my older airport extreme is 3' away from the machine.

Whatever the case with the Airs, I hope this AppleSeed beta will fix the problem for everyone.
Use a cable.

Problem solved.

You're welcome.
 
Use a cable.

Problem solved.

You're welcome.

2nd that.

I don't understand the misconception that instability issues of even the latest wifi ever trump the reliability of a fixed connection one achieves with a 3' patch cable. If you're just being curious that's understandable i just want to know.
 
I returned the 2012 MBA I bought a few months back because it had exactly this same problem. Looking on the web I found I wasn't alone - bad WiFi connectivity has plagued previous models. (Oh, and for the benefit of the apologists - I have a 100% Apple WiFi setup at home).

And now it pops up again. Makes me really doubt that it's something about this current chipset or driver - more of a fundamental design problem in the MBA (bad antenna placement? bad WiFi power supply?).

I won't be buying an MBA again - I just don't trust the engineering in this range.
 
Use a cable.

Problem solved.

You're welcome.

I'm sorry, are you seriously suggesting not using WiFi, a major function in today's computing needs, and using a cable for a direct connection on a ~$1500+ iMac (which requires a USB - Ethernet adapter for the MacBook Air)? Let's just move all our systems next to our routers and connect them directly, cause "it just works". I thought I had seen it all on here.
 
Sounds like they're testing a firmware update that would be separate from the generic update. And with all the myriad of routers out there being used there's bound to be problems considering the new 802.11ac
 
Sounds like they're testing a firmware update that would be separate from the generic update. And with all the myriad of routers out there being used there's bound to be problems considering the new 802.11ac

So all the Air Users are beta testers?

I guess I have to ask myself as Apple has done recently.

"Does this deserve to exists"?

Designed in California, Beta Tested in the Wold and made in China.
Apple, You Bet Your Ass We Can Still Innovate...
 
2nd that.

I don't understand the misconception that instability issues of even the latest wifi ever trump the reliability of a fixed connection one achieves with a 3' patch cable. If you're just being curious that's understandable i just want to know.
How about the notion that I'm not spending over a grand and then finding out that I can't move my machine more than 3 ft from a wired router. It's not a misconception. It's called I paid good money, and I expect the product to be completely functional in all major areas, wifi being prob. the most major of them. Not to mention, how am I gonna access the internet at school, in a cafe etc. where there's no access to a wired router (in the case of macbooks)?
 
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I have the new air, but retured the new AC AirPort Extreme. It was not compatable with my 2 express's for iTunes.

As far as the wifi is concerned, I haven't noticed a problem yet. But I do wonder why apple has constant issues and complaints with basically every device that make with wifi.
 
Had my Macbook Air replaced for this issue today. in and out in 20min because of the capture order.
 
I have the new air, but retured the new AC AirPort Extreme. It was not compatable with my 2 express's for iTunes.

As far as the wifi is concerned, I haven't noticed a problem yet. But I do wonder why apple has constant issues and complaints with basically every device that make with wifi.

Aluminum. Screws up the wifi contact.
 
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So all the Air Users are beta testers?

I guess I have to ask myself as Apple has done recently.

"Does this deserve to exists"?

Designed in California, Beta Tested in the Wold and made in China.
Apple, You Bet Your Ass We Can Still Innovate...

Don't think "all" Air users have the problem. Thus the select Appleseed.
 
What's coming?



What's unbelievable?

Really, these posts are useless. If you have a viewpoint, express it for goodness sake.

They didnt have a damn thing to say. They just posted something in an attempt to be the 'first' poster, which apparently in their worthless lives, means something.
 
Did they not TEST these before they released them?! Either someone retarded was in charge of this, or it's a rare problem that they couldn't catch because they got lucky (well, unlucky) when testing.

Aluminum. Screws up the wifi contact.

The aluminum case doesn't make a real difference. Wifi would be blocked by a mesh-like shape of metal, but it won't resonate with the casing.
 
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Use a cable.

Problem solved.

You're welcome.

Ahem, 2 cables.

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I lose WiFi on my iMac occasionally and my older airport extreme is 3' away from the machine.

Whatever the case with the Airs, I hope this AppleSeed beta will fix the problem for everyone.

I've noticed that putting something with wifi connectivity right next to the router or switch actually makes it unreliable, as if there is a minimum range.
 
They didnt have a damn thing to say. They just posted something in an attempt to be the 'first' poster, which apparently in their worthless lives, means something.

95% sure you're right, but I thought I'd try to prod them into explaining what - if anything - their posts referred to. I was willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.

Maybe I missed it, but I don't see any followup explanations...

:rolleyes:
 
And now it pops up again. Makes me really doubt that it's something about this current chipset or driver - more of a fundamental design problem in the MBA (bad antenna placement? bad WiFi power supply?).

There does indeed seem to be something wrong with the Wi-Fi in newer machines. I previously had a 2006 MBP and Wi-Fi was fine. It was reliable, and was only a few ms slower than Ethernet.

I moved to a 2011 MBP and at first the latency would jump all over the place:

64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=0 ttl=255 time=108.653 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=255 time=31.599 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=255 time=225.406 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=3 ttl=255 time=179.671 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=4 ttl=255 time=100.916 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=5 ttl=255 time=22.255 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=6 ttl=255 time=223.938 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=7 ttl=255 time=172.055 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=8 ttl=255 time=93.338 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=9 ttl=255 time=14.747 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.1.1: icmp_seq=10 ttl=255 time=223.269 ms

That was fixed with an update after a couple of months, but to this day there's still something not quite right with it; pings are reliable and about the same speed as Ethernet, but it still "feels" slower when gaming. I've made a habit of keeping a cable plugged in just to avoid any issues.
 
Wi Fi drop Mac Pro!

I got news for you Apple geeks, it's NOT just the new Mac Air that has the bug! I have a 1,1 Mac Pro that has the same problem and I discovered it right after my last automatic update. I know I am not the only non mac air alt mac consumer/ owner with the whole dropped wifi issue. It is or was a giant pain that forced me to use my windows back-up machine which I hate. If mac works out the bug I may attempt at using their equipment again if not I don't care anymore. It's one thing after another lately with Apple pissing off it's consumers. If patiently waiting 3.5 years for a new Mac Pro wasn't enough, now this. I express my anger because I know that the problem lies in one of their WiFi updates. Can't prove it yet but I'm working on it (in my spare time ya right)!
 
I already do.

Try moving the base station away from the computer a little. I haven't really tested, but I feel like my iPhone doesn't connect to the wifi reliably if it's really, really close to the AirPort Express.
 
I returned the 2012 MBA I bought a few months back because it had exactly this same problem. Looking on the web I found I wasn't alone - bad WiFi connectivity has plagued previous models. (Oh, and for the benefit of the apologists - I have a 100% Apple WiFi setup at home).

And now it pops up again. Makes me really doubt that it's something about this current chipset or driver - more of a fundamental design problem in the MBA (bad antenna placement? bad WiFi power supply?).

I won't be buying an MBA again - I just don't trust the engineering in this range.

Just a quick question: What frequency are you using? 2.4Ghz or 5Ghz? Maybe the MacBook Air is more sensitive to interference meaning that the problem might only appear in more congested Wifi airspace. I know for me both my computers are running on 5Ghz but in the past when using 2.4Ghz the experience was less than stella considering there are 6 base stations in the area where I live.
 
I'm sorry, are you seriously suggesting not using WiFi, a major function in today's computing needs, and using a cable for a direct connection on a ~$1500+ iMac (which requires a USB - Ethernet adapter for the MacBook Air)? Let's just move all our systems next to our routers and connect them directly, cause "it just works". I thought I had seen it all on here.

Surely you mean a thunderbolt ethernet adapter? 100mbps doesn't cut it these days.
 
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