Apple Threatens to Ban Parler From App Store as Twitter Bans Donald Trump

[Rafterman]

China killed 70million+ of it's own citizens less than 70 years ago...

I am not a victim. I did better in Trump's economy than any other I've lived through. In another comment I plainly said I have no intention of staying where I'm not wanted. As soon as my data export is complete on Twitter my account will be overwritten and deleted.



AOC's comment was much more inciteful than anything I've seen on Trump's page, especially the few tweets that caused all this. He plainly told his supporters to go home and to not bother the police.

Trump is not responsible for your doing better or worse. The economy was stable, but erratic and was despite him, not because of him. Anyone who knows his business career knows the truth about Trump's business acumen.

And he told his supporters to go home AFTER the riot started. His speech before was entirely different. You don't seem to understand what the word "uncomfortable" means in her context.

 

[CosmoCopus]

This is pathetic.

 

[brofkand]

Right. You mean after he had already incited a violent mob?

‘Be There. Will Be Wild!’: Trump All but Circled the Date (Published 2021)

Inside Trump supporters’ online echo chambers, the chaos of Jan. 6 could be seen coming. People posted their plans to come to Washington — and showed the weapons they would carry.

www.nytimes.com

And besides spending the last three months claiming that the elections were fraudulent and encouraging his supports to play election watchers because Democrats were "rigging the election"?

Calling the election rigged does not incite violence. If Twitter honestly thinks telling people to come to a rally or talking about election fraud is inciting violence, then there's no hope for anyone. It's not hard to imagine a reality where even a "Merry Christmas" tweet incites violence. And what about all this "silence is violence" talk on the left lately...we are allowed to speak, but not to speak freely? I'm confused.

The fact that Dems don't like to admit is the Left has had much more open calls for violence and unrest over the past year, that resulted in immeasurably more damage to private and federal property, far more lives lost, and much more division than the imaginary inciting that Trump was accused of.

The plain truth is orange man bad. That's all there is to it. But yet they want unity.

 

[Spizike9]

There’s nothing wrong with Kamala saying protestors should not let up. Protest does not mean riot, loot or destroy.

I do not support what Maxine Waters said or is condoning.

Same as Kamala. Everyone should be upset with people being killed by the police unnecessarily.

Totally agree. I’m all for “protesting” or whatever you want to call it these days. But things have to change as a nation. Starting with me and you and everyone on this board. We have some major issues out there. We have some terrible cops, politicians, teachers, parents etc. The problem with America is nobody wants to be The Change and accept responsibility for their own short comings or for the fact that life is just not easy. We have become a lazy group (in general) of individuals that just want to take and take and take. We want to have un protected sex and knock up multiple women and keep generational poverty going. We want to get out of our marriages when things are tough. We want to belittle people when they like the same sex.
Instead we need to come together and stop with everything is racist and everything needs to be the same and we need to go back to the golden rule. Treat everyone how you want to be treated. Who gives a crap if the person is a biological male but wants to be a female. If it makes him happy who cares. Still be nice to him. But we also need to understand that the biological male shouldn’t be competing in girls sports. It’s just not fair and that is science.
Sorry small rant but hopefully you get my point.

 

[ssledoux]

Who is the brainwashed one? Stating all these well known fallacies, all at once...

Do you mean tax increase? Because anyone with children lost the deduction and, like me, pay more in taxes than ever before. Then the taxes will increase this year, 2023, 2025, 2027... Thanks Trump!

Then the repeal of net neutrality is ushering in data caps as the new norm. That's fun.

The highest unemployment rate since the Great Depression.

Highest minority unemployment rate in a decade.

Highest deficits ever and increasing the national debt after the last 2 Democratic Presidents lowered it.

A well documented racist with examples going back to the 70s.

Doesn't pay taxes.

Bankrupted every business he's ever managed.

Is actually dead broke and indebted to many foreign nations. A national security concern.

Oh... and let's just go right ahead to present day... attempted a coup and failed miserably because he relied Y'all Qaeda and Vanilla Isis to carry it out. Combined IQ of everyone present barely crested 100.

Dear Lord. Where do you get your “facts.”

I do taxes for my husband and myself, and I’ve helped (or at least discussed) all my adult children with their taxes for themselves and their families. Every, single one of us has benefitted from reduced taxes, as well as all my adult siblings, their families, their children’s families, and we have a wide range of income levels as well.

Maybe highest unemployment since Covid (thank You to all the governors who shut down entire states and put people out of work), but lowest unemployment before that point.

Lowest minorty unemployment ever (again, prior to Covid)

Can’t really fault him for deficits considering the Covid situation (would have happened to ANY president in that situation), and the huge stimulus packages full of crap for all sorts of unnecessary things/countries (which he signed, and I was NOT pleased about), which was pushed by the democrats

Funny how he’s won awards for such a variety of things, including one from Mohammed Ali, if he’s such a racist. Children’s Foundation Awards, Presidential Hero Award, Humanitarian Award, President’s Medal for supporting youth foundations, and many more, ranging all the way back to 1976. Try again with the racist garbage.

No sense in talking about his personal tax situation, when there are so many in government (both sides) pocketing funds and getting wealthy selling us out.

And seriously? Dead broke, but taking no money as president. And Biden isn’t a national security risk? Please.

 

[burgerrecords]

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[Rafterman]

Calling the election rigged does not incite violence. If Twitter honestly thinks telling people to come to a rally or talking about election fraud is inciting violence, then there's no hope for anyone. It's not hard to imagine a reality where even a "Merry Christmas" tweet incites violence. And what about all this "silence is violence" talk on the left lately...we are allowed to speak, but not to speak freely? I'm confused.

The fact that Dems don't like to admit is the Left has had much more open calls for violence and unrest over the past year, that resulted in immeasurably more damage to private and federal property, far more lives lost, and much more division than the imaginary inciting that Trump was accused of.

The plain truth is orange man bad. That's all there is to it. But yet they want unity.

Orange man IS bad.

Donald Trump is an immoral, cheating cretin. He lies at a level that is shocking, even for a politician, He is racist and bigoted and a braggart. He takes responsibility for things he never did and fails to take responsibility for things he did. He has no sympathy or empathy for anyone but himself, claiming victimhood constantly, and has zero negotiating skills; no ability to bring consensus and can only use threats to get people to move to his position. He is lazy and incompetent and has never accomplished anything as president that wasn’t handed to him. His childishness is almost laughable. And now, he moves into the rhelm of outright sedition. Trump is just plain mean - a sad individual. And when he dies, few will mourn him. Many will celebrate. That is his legacy.

For anyone to continue to support Trump or, worse yet, excuse him, indicates their complete lack of morals and conscience.

 

[russell_314]

I can’t say I’m surprised. It’s a power grab to control information. Google will fall in line with the party.

 

[Plutonius]

Wow, full on China level censorship.

What can people expect when the tech companies appear to be doing everything that China commands.

 

[Rafterman]

Dear Lord. Where do you get your “facts.”

I do taxes for my husband and myself, and I’ve helped (or at least discussed) all my adult children with their taxes for themselves and their families. Every, single one of us has benefitted from reduced taxes, as well as all my adult siblings, their families, their children’s families, and we have a wide range of income levels as well.

Maybe highest unemployment since Covid (thank You to all the governors who shut down entire states and put people out of work), but lowest unemployment before that point.

Lowest minorty unemployment ever (again, prior to Covid)

Can’t really fault him for deficits considering the Covid situation (would have happened to ANY president in that situation), and the huge stimulus packages full of crap for all sorts of unnecessary things/countries (which he signed, and I was NOT pleased about), which was pushed by the democrats

Funny how he’s won awards for such a variety of things, including one from Mohammed Ali, if he’s such a racist. Children’s Foundation Awards, Presidential Hero Award, Humanitarian Award, President’s Medal for supporting youth foundations, and many more, ranging all the way back to 1976. Try again with the racist garbage.

No sense in talking about his personal tax situation, when there are so many in government (both sides) pocketing funds and getting wealthy selling us out.

And seriously? Dead broke, but taking no money as president. And Biden isn’t a national security risk? Please.

You know those tax cuts were only temporary and will bite you back once they expire, right? And I have yet to for anyone to cite even one thing Trump did to lower minority unemployment. Trumnp's tweets and gaslighting over hte last 4 years says differently from the saint of race that you sescribe.

 

[Rafterman]

I can’t say I’m surprised. It’s a power grab to control information. Google will fall in line with the party.

Its a grab to control FAKE information and stop it's spread.

 

[Spizike9]

You simply search out a platform that support your already formed political views. So spare me the "oh, I only use unbiased sources". All news has a bias. But if 20 news orgs report something, and two report the opposite, its a good bet the 20 are right.

You’re right all news has a bias. That’s the issue. It shouldn’t. Can you imagine if Trump locked down the country shuttering all sorts of restaurants and then decides to go have birthday partY at some super high up elite restaurant? Can you imagine the outrage the media would have? They should have that outrage. He would be a hypocrite and do as I say not as I do type of person. (Which he has many times)
However when it happens in the left (Looking at you Newsom and Palosi) the left MSM doesn’t call them out.
There’s plenty of stuff the right does that I don’t like and there is plenty the left does I do like. I’ll call them both out when I don’t agree with them. The hypocrisy is just the worst.

 

[ssledoux]

Wow. You're literally spewing GOP talking points. But here you go:

• Guns - preventing maniacs from owning firearms shouldn't be seen as "pro" or "anti" gun - it's just common sense
• "America First" - do you know what nationalism means? Or have realized at this point that Trump views the governing as a zero sum game? "If they win, that means we're losing" isn't a sensical approach to operating the government
• Jobs/Business/Stocks - Trump inherited a booming economy and went on to pass tax cuts when it wasn't needed. And decided to encourage Americans to disregard the pandemic, causing the US to basically stay in lockdown mode for months because wearing masks and staying indoors equals communism/socialism/China/etc. Those tax breaks sure could be useful now, huh?
• You're aware that "Democratic", "Democrat", and "Socialist" can all have different meanings depending on the context, right? If you're suggesting that the Democrats (political party) in the US has greater Nazi tendencies, then you're not bothering to understand the difference or what Nazism actually means

Owning guns is a constitutional right. You cannot control what everyone does with guns, but rest assured, people who want to kill people WILL HAVE GUNS, legal or not. Taking away law abiding citizens’ rights to own guns is not common sense.

America First is the correct answer. Why should we be sending billions to other countries when there are homeless by the thousands in the streets of a single city? We need a president who looks out for us, and protects us FIRST.

Wearing masks and being on lockdown has done ZERO to slow/stop the spread of Covid, and now they’re vaccinating and STILL say we’ll have to wait longer to have lives because they don’t even have a freaking clue how the vaccines will work (or IF they’ll work). We have been living like this for MONTHS. Our economy was destroyed for absolutely nothing, and oh right, Trump is to blame for that too. And when he stopped travel from China, the democrats gave him crap for that, and were telling people to live their lives. Now they want us to have no lives while they do whatever the heck they want.

Oh yeah, we healthy people can’t leave our homes to see relatives for Christmas, but someone with freaking Covid can go to DC to vote in Nancy Pelosi. Double standards or they wouldn’t have any at all.

 

[brofkand]

Orange man IS bad.

Donald Trump is an immoral, cheating cretin. He lies at a level that is shocking, even for a politician, He is racist and bigoted and a braggart. He takes responsibility for things he never did and fails to take responsibility for things he did. He has no sympathy or empathy for anyone but himself, claiming victimhood constantly, and has zero negotiating skills; no ability to bring consensus and can only use threats to get people to move to his position. He is lazy and incompetent and has never accomplished anything as president that wasn’t handed to him. His childishness is almost laughable. And now, he moves into the r helm of outright sedition. Trump is just plain mean - a sad individual. And when he dies, few will mourn him. Many will celebrate. That is his legacy.

For anyone to continue to support Trump or, worse yet, excuse him. indicates their complete lack of morals and conscience.

Oh please let's not bring racism, bigotry, and accomplishments into this debate. After all we just elected a man who has 50 years in Washington and has accomplished nothing but making women uncomfortable. He believes that poor kids can be just as smart as white kids, was forced to drop out of the '08 primaries because of a racist joke against Indians, doesn't want his kids growing up in a racial jungle, and is shown on tape sniffing underage girls and calling our armed forces stupid bastards. He's gotten rich off the government dole and given the people nothing in return.

At least Trump earned his money in the private sector and is probably the first President since Carter to leave office with less money than he entered with, if we're judging success by net worth anyway. Obama was pretty much the only American to do better during his presidency, everyone I know had enough of his slow recovery.

 

[Rafterman]

Wearing masks and being on lockdown has done ZERO to slow/stop the spread of Covid,

That's because far too many on the right refuse to go along. It WOULD work if everyone did it, not just half of us.

 

[MrX8503]

Freedom of speech is only protected if it’s government censorship and not violent/hate speech.

Removing hate/violent speech on platforms owned by private businesses is not a violation of your freedom of speech.

 

[Plutonius]

I can’t say I’m surprised. It’s a power grab to control information. Google will fall in line with the party.

I think it's more likely that the tech companies are doing it in hopes that it will influence the incoming administration to not make changes in how the tech companies operate (i.e. bribe).

 

[insomniac86]

While I have been a huge fan of Apple (owned every single generation of iPhone from the original one to 12 Pro Max, several MacBook Pros, a handful of iPads and several iPods back in the day) I will not stand for this. Banning stuff like Epic for willingly circumventing AppStore rules is one thing, but banning an app because you don't like what it's used for is total censorship. While using Android or any other OS may not be as easy and enjoyable as iOS, macOS, etc., I will NOT stand for censorship. If Apple does this, I am done.

oh no! What phone will you use? I ask because google banned the app completely. Not even giving them a chance to make changes as Apple has done.

 

[Spizike9]

I guess you shouldn’t drive illegally. Once you’ve broken the law we lock you away indefinitely?

Or maybe the punishment should to fit the crime?

Apples and Oranges. However I love how you ASSume I drive illegally. However I have no problem with locking up people who drive drunk or while texting indefinitely.

I agree with you. It was terrible for those little kids and their parents. I’m sure it was. I can only imagine going to another country illegally and having them do that to me and my kids. I don’t know why they couldn’t have kept them together as a family. Maybe you should ask Barack and find out why he also decided to separate kids from their parents. I mean after all the punishment should fit the crime right.

 

[Chorx]

Orange man IS bad.

Donald Trump is an immoral, cheating cretin. He lies at a level that is shocking, even for a politician, He is racist and bigoted and a braggart. He takes responsibility for things he never did and fails to take responsibility for things he did. He has no sympathy or empathy for anyone but himself, claiming victimhood constantly, and has zero negotiating skills; no ability to bring consensus and can only use threats to get people to move to his position. He is lazy and incompetent and has never accomplished anything as president that wasn’t handed to him. His childishness is almost laughable. And now, he moves into the rhelm of outright sedition. Trump is just plain mean - a sad individual. And when he dies, few will mourn him. Many will celebrate. That is his legacy.

For anyone to continue to support Trump or, worse yet, excuse him, indicates their complete lack of morals and conscience.

My friends -- I present to you, the Ad Hominem.

 

[decisions]

I don't support violent protests from either side. That said, the FBI is in the process of arresting those who stormed the Capitol Building. I don't need Twitter to tell me how to think in order to make a "safer" world. I will never support censorship. I will never support the tossing away of American freedoms in the name of self-righteousness.

 

[TechieGeek]

Wow reading through the comments here.....never realized there were this many Alt-Right on MacRumors.

 

[vipergts2207]

Actually, we live in a constitutional republic, which you’d know if you ever cracked a book. And it’s losing the ”democracy” feeling every day, more and more. Eventually, a large swath of this country’s population just won’t take it anymore.

Please spare me the condescension. Yes it’s Constitutional. It’s a Republic. It’s also a democracy. You understand that none of those things are mutually exclusive? The Constitution was created through democratic means and who runs the Republic is decided through democratic means.

So how would you like our Republic to be governed? Through democracy or by just letting whoever takes over our seat of government with the most brute force?

 

[Rafterman]

Oh please let's not bring racism, bigotry, and accomplishments into this debate. After all we just elected a man who has 50 years in Washington and has accomplished nothing but making women uncomfortable. He believes that poor kids can be just as smart as white kids, was forced to drop out of the '08 primaries because of a racist joke against Indians, doesn't want his kids growing up in a racial jungle, and is shown on tape sniffing underage girls and calling our armed forces stupid bastards. He's gotten rich off the government dole and given the people nothing in return.

At least Trump earned his money in the private sector and is probably the first President since Carter to leave office with less money than he entered with, if we're judging success by net worth anyway. Obama was pretty much the only American to do better during his presidency, everyone I know had enough of his slow recovery.

Earned his money? Seriously? He failed at every business he tried and only survives on bank loans and property he purchased with loans from his father. His business skills re hilariously inept.

By the way, if you want to talk Biden's morals, let's talk Trump.

Ogling his daughter and telling Howard Stern it was OK to call her a "piece of azzzz". Or saying that a then 12 year old Paris Hilton was attractive. Or walking through the Miss Teen USA pageant dressing room, with underage half naked girls, because he "owns it". Or telling a young girl on an escalator in front of cameras that in ten years, they will be dating (seriously, he saw that kid and THAT was the first thing he thought to say?). Or commenting on his then one year old baby Ivanka's potential breast size in an interview. Or hitting on Michael Cohen's then-15 year old daughter. And let's not forget his buddy Jeffrey Epstein. I wouldn't be surprised if ole Jeffy provided The Donald with a 16 year old Ivanka look-alike. A man with no morals or conscience like Trump would have no problem with any of that.

 

[horsebattery]

Calling the election rigged does not incite violence. If Twitter honestly thinks telling people to come to a rally or talking about election fraud is inciting violence, then there's no hope for anyone. It's not hard to imagine a reality where even a "Merry Christmas" tweet incites violence. And what about all this "silence is violence" talk on the left lately...we are allowed to speak, but not to speak freely? I'm confused.

The fact that Dems don't like to admit is the Left has had much more open calls for violence and unrest over the past year, that resulted in immeasurably more damage to private and federal property, far more lives lost, and much more division than the imaginary inciting that Trump was accused of.

The plain truth is orange man bad. That's all there is to it. But yet they want unity.

You're moving goalposts. You went from claiming that Trump asked the mob "to go home and to not bother the police" (which he clearly did, but only after promoting a "huge" January 6th event) to now claiming that he only suggested election fraud.

Like with many, many other posters in this thread, you also continue to promote false analogies. Trump has literally promoted violence for months with his unsubstantiated claims of voter fraud (yes, let's recount again and find Biden the victor in Georgia for the fourth time). But you're equating that to Democrat leaders calling for racial equity in a system which clearly has mountains of evidence backing their claims.

But hey, again like with half the posters in this thread, continue equating the rioters with the BLM protests. Violence occurred there, so their central message must clearly be for violence and burning down cities!