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And honestly, I don’t feel belittled. I just think it makes you feel big and important to act like everything I say is trite, and everything you say is the all-important truth.
Actually what makes some of us feel big and important, at least in a manner of speaking, is that the GOP has finally been thrown out of political power at the national level, and it is going to be a very different game moving forward than the vile Trump Years of the waning GOP.
 
You are delusional. Just because in some crowds, latinx individuals get to be "white" if they are literal neo nazi enough, does not make him anything other than a white power fascist. I see you squirming your way out of the "6 million wasn't enough" the proud boys so proudly wear on their shirts and waive on their flags. Squirm squirm squirm. We see right through it.
How am I delusional and squirming. I denounced racism and said anyone who is racist is bad. But also pointed out the image being shown to be at the Capitol was in fact not at the Capitol and it was from two weeks earlier. All I did was state facts. Just like the Proud Boys founder is a minority. But apparently not minority enough.
I’ll just stick to facts.
 
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How am I delusional and squirming. I denounced racism and said anyone who is racist is bad. But also pointed out the image being shown to be at the Capitol was in fact not at the Capitol and it was from two weeks earlier. All I did was state facts. Just like the Proud Boys founder is a minority. But apparently not minority enough.
I’ll just stick to facts.
So what's "6 million wasn't enough" referring to? Please, educate me. Go on, I'm waiting. Why do the Proud Boys commonly wear this as a motto? Go on...

Oh, here's a hint: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/proud-boy-6mwe/

And yes, there were many examples of this and similar neo nazi mottos all over Wednesday's duck dynasty revolutionaries. You don't get to party in that crowd and not be of that crowd.
 
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This won't end well. Do not censor apps like this. People post terrible things on Twitter... but we do not BAN THE APP?!
Me too I’m having a serious issue understanding what’s going on. Thing is I don’t know what “Parler” is... assuming it’s a chat and communication thing (parler is french for to-talk) if someone uses the phone and lines platforms to do misdeeds... should AT&T, Verizon, TMobile be banned and all that copper stripped from the ground?
What am I missing here? Genuinely curious... the things are made “evil” by the people using it not the technology itself. Same with money, bitcoins, etc... people can use dollars to fund drug dealing or to build schools, we don’t “ban” money forever because of it.
 
Actually what makes some of us feel big and important, at least in a manner of speaking, is that the GOP has finally been thrown out of political power at the national level, and it is going to be a very different game moving forward than the vile Trump Years of the waning GOP.
It’ll all come back around just like when Obama got into office. It was the same thing.
 
Right. Because if Obama's name was Joe Smith and was white, his birthplace would totally still have been brought up.

Well I would assume most presidents would have to provide birth certificates. Did he ever provide one? I feel like that was something people asked to see throughout his presidency.

Of course, I’m not surprised you’d make it a race issue - seems to be a running theme with your posts.
 
Actually what makes some of us feel big and important, at least in a manner of speaking, is that the GOP has finally been thrown out of political power at the national level, and it is going to be a very different game moving forward than the vile Trump Years of the waning GOP.
I really don’t think it’ll be like you think it will, but okay.
 
Well, I did mean to insinuate that the liberals in Hollywood who are pedophiles aren’t likely conservative republicans. I’m pretty sure that was in response to some line you gave about morals.

And honestly, I don’t feel belittled. I just think it makes you feel big and important to act like everything I say is trite, and everything you say is the all-important truth.
I don't aim to "feel big" when conversing with others. But when I get the impression that the other party isn't speaking in good faith (or equally important - speak factually), then I don't feel obligated to maintain as much civility as I normally do.

It's funny how "some people said" is how they describe what DJT said, just like DJT himself describes himself in the third person. These people are mental midgets at this point, they are in a cult frenzy and the cult is starting to take on the brown acid scary trip vibe. Parrots of anything Trump and says. It's going to take a lot of deprogramming to break through to any of them, and many are never coming back I'm afraid. But that's how nature works -- that which cannot adapt, dies off.
That's been a favorite of Trump's behavior. By saying "some people said...", "I hear...", or "they said...", it absolves you of any responsibility for the things that you say - because you can just claim that you're the messenger.

"They said that those voting machines are flipping the votes!"
"Some people said that [these violent rioters] were just there to show their support!"
"A lot of people are saying that you can fight COVID by using bleach!"
 
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One side is intolerant against sexism, anti-semitism, fascism, LGBT discrimination, and racism.

The other side is intolerant for policies for racial, gender, sexual, and cultural equality.

Intolerance is perfectly fine to have in a society. But again, you're being willfully ignorant in believing that both sides are operating in good faith/morally/ethically.
There is an experiment that has been repeated many times. In it you take people who oppose each other politically they have to explain their opponents position until the person who disagrees with them agrees they have correctly articulated it. So a democrat and republicans each have to explain each other’s positions to each other’s satisfaction. Haidt has done this and consistently people on the right can do this trivially and people on the left struggle. Your post is an example of one possible reason why - many of the left lack empathy for their opponents because they ascribe malice to all their ideas and so cannot bring themselves to articulate them to the satisfaction of those they disagree with. Try it sometimes. It’s a good exercise because it helps us understand one another.
 
So what's "6 million wasn't enough" referring to? Please, educate me. Go on, I'm waiting. Why do the Proud Boys commonly wear this as a motto? Go on...

Oh, here's a hint: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/proud-boy-6mwe/
It’s referring to the 6 million Jews murdered. That’s why I said racism is bad and that guy is an idiot for wearing. Are you that sense you couldn’t understand that from my post. I think you were just too upset the picture wasn’t from the protest to think straight. I seriously can’t believe you think I’m defending some racist punk for wearing a shirt that both of my grandfathers put their life on the line to stop. Unbelievable.
 
Well I would assume most presidents would have to provide birth certificates. Did he ever provide one? I feel like that was something people asked to see throughout his presidency.

Of course, I’m not surprised you’d make it a race issue - seems to be a running theme with your posts.
Yes he did, in 2008.


 
I don't aim to "feel big" when conversing with others. But when I get the impression that the other party isn't speaking in good faith (or equally important - speak factually), then I don't feel obligated to maintain as much civility as I normally do.


That's been a favorite of Trump's behavior. By saying "some people said...", "I hear...", or "they said...", it absolves you of any responsibility for the things that you say - because you can just claim that you're the messenger.

"They said that those voting machines are flipping the votes!"
"Some people said that [these violent rioters] were just there to show their support!"
"A lot of people are saying that you can fight COVID by using bleach!"

Right. Your “facts” are the only facts. It IS the democrat way.
 
You're being willfully blind:





You're suggesting the act of inciting violence is fine because "there will be radicals that will always take it further, but ultimately people are responsible for their own actions". Are you next going to tell the victims that it's their fault because they deserved it?
Actually, Biden has said he wants to take Trump out behind the building and beat him up. So by your own logic, Biden should be banned from all platforms, right?

Trump did not incite violence (he literally said let’s walk to the Capitol “peacefully”) but the MSM are trying to paint it as such because a protest got out of control.

Where were all the banning when the protests got out of control last summer, became riots, and Federal buildings were attacked in Portland, statues were torn down, and cities were burned? Not to mention the countless people injured or worse (David Dorn). So many Democratic politicians were inciting and advocating violence and not one of them was permanently banned.

Unequal application of free speech standards is not justice and it’s un-American. I work in Big Tech and I can tell you, it is indeed biased and run by group think soley to appease a politically liberal workforce.

I’m generally against over regulation, but these companies need to be regulated to protect ALL speech, with the obvious exceptions of DIRECT incitement of violence.
 
How am I delusional and squirming. I denounced racism and said anyone who is racist is bad. But also pointed out the image being shown to be at the Capitol was in fact not at the Capitol and it was from two weeks earlier. All I did was state facts. Just like the Proud Boys founder is a minority. But apparently not minority enough.
I’ll just stick to facts and you can continue to be delusional.
Wasn’t Hitler’s ideal “Aryan” tall, blond and with blue eyes? Yet he wasn’t. Just saying, just because the founder of the ProudBoys is part of a minority doesn’t necessarily mean that he isn’t a white supremacist...
 
You don't go full-nazi. You never go full-nazi. There's no coming back from Trump, Jr., Rudy and others egging on neo nazis to attack our Capital and block the democratic election of the President from happening. IT IS OVER.
So should I say all the BLM protests this summer were racist as well. Because I will guarantee you there was racist black peoples there. Are their racist republicans? Yes there are. Just like there are racist Democrats. But just because a very small number of people are racists at the capitol it doesn’t mean “they are all Neo Nazi.” I’m sorry, I’m not delusional you are. Anybody with half a brain can see it.
 
Well I would assume most presidents would have to provide birth certificates. Did he ever provide one? I feel like that was something people asked to see throughout his presidency.

Of course, I’m not surprised you’d make it a race issue - seems to be a running theme with your posts.
Requiring a birth certificate wasn't actually required. Many states, however, did see lawmakers (primary Republicans) updating their laws around 2010 to require presidential candidates to provide birth certificates:


But whether one was provided or not wasn't the point. The fact that it became a public spectacle is. Do you honestly recall birth certificates being a relevant topic in a political campaign before Obama became a candidate? Hell, the issue came up again for Kamala - and by Trump, of course:

 
Did you see all the people

There is an experiment that has been repeated many times. In it you take people who oppose each other politically they have to explain their opponents position until the person who disagrees with them agrees they have correctly articulated it. So a democrat and republicans each have to explain each other’s positions to each other’s satisfaction. Haidt has done this and consistently people on the right can do this trivially and people on the left struggle. Your post is an example of one possible reason why - many of the left lack empathy for their opponents because they ascribe malice to all their ideas and so cannot bring themselves to articulate them to the satisfaction of those they disagree with. Try it sometimes. It’s a good exercise because it helps us understand one another.
Honestly, we just don't give a crap about trying to understand the racist, seditious crap of the GOP any longer. We're through, and you know what? We're in charge now. The GOP is DONE. Stick a fork in it. None of us care about trying to convert you to our way of thinking, we just want diversity and plurality to be respected so we can go about our lives and generally, respect one another as human beings and have an equal shot at opportunity no matter who we are or where we come from.

This is not what the GOP wants, the GOP wants to preserve white privilege and throw out any scraps of actual representative democracy that are left in this country so the ultra-wealthy billionaire class can privatize everything. The game the USA has pulled on many other countries over the years has come home to roost, sadly. The GOP demands that only white protestant Christianity be preserved, everything else be second class. No more Muslims can come into the country -- your President's policy. Etc. etc. ad infinitum.

See, it's all out in the open now. You guys went full racist. See, you never go full racist, because there's noooo coming back. Trump, Trump Jr., and Rudy live, on TV, directed a crowd of white power hicks to attack our Capital and block the certification of his opponent for President, by intimidating our elected officials through violence and mob rule.
 
So should I say all the BLM protests this summer were racist as well. Because I will guarantee you there was racist black peoples there. Are their racist republicans? Yes there are. Just like there are racist Democrats. But just because a very small number of people are racists at the capitol it doesn’t mean “they are all Neo Nazi.” I’m sorry, I’m not delusional you are. Anybody with half a brain can see it.
Garbage. Nobody at BLM gets attacked for being white. It is a totally racially diverse movement. It's actually about just being freaking tolerant of people's race and background. Very different than the 99% all-white crowd that tried to subvert democracy this week. Thankfully, they are being rounded up and dealt with as we speak.
 
So should I say all the BLM protests this summer were racist as well. Because I will guarantee you there was racist black peoples there. Are their racist republicans? Yes there are. Just like there are racist Democrats. But just because a very small number of people are racists at the capitol it doesn’t mean “they are all Neo Nazi.” I’m sorry, I’m not delusional you are. Anybody with half a brain can see it.
Yeah you know -- I just actually haven't met a Democrat who really is a very racist person. Certainly not compared with the many, many deeply, wantonly, and openly racist Republicans I've had the joy of knowing over the years. While not all Republican's are racist, it is, in fact, a party of racism.
 
Requiring a birth certificate wasn't actually required. Many states, however, did see lawmakers (primary Republicans) updating their laws around 2010 to require presidential candidates to provide birth certificates:


But whether one was provided or not wasn't the point. The fact that it became a public spectacle is. Do you honestly recall birth certificates being a relevant topic in a political campaign before Obama became a candidate? Hell, the issue came up again for Kamala - and by Trump, of course:


Didn’t Obama’s own brother state that he wasn’t born in the US though? There was question over legitimacy.

And hasn’t Kamala been dishonest about her heritage? I mean she’s pretty blatantly calling herself African American, but she is actually a very small percentage.

How about people just stop pretending to be something they aren’t just to get ahead.
 
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Me too I’m having a serious issue understanding what’s going on. Thing is I don’t know what “Parler” is... assuming it’s a chat and communication thing (parler is french for to-talk) if someone uses the phone and lines platforms to do misdeeds... should AT&T, Verizon, TMobile be banned and all that copper stripped from the ground?
What am I missing here? Genuinely curious... the things are made “evil” by the people using it not the technology itself. Same with money, bitcoins, etc... people can use dollars to fund drug dealing or to build schools, we don’t “ban” money forever because of it.
Because Twitter removes the posts and polices their site. Parler does not.
 
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