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Violent speech is protected speech. But speech that says, “at 2 PM on Tuesday I want you to burn down Target on Main Street” is not. That’s the law. That’s one place to start.
This is the exact planning that Apple is banning from their store. It is literally happening on Parler. You keep keep keep defending the Nazis and I just have to ask... why.
 
If Apple does this, it has turned against the people. That dissent can even lead to boycotting Apple by some.
 
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For those comparing BLM protests over the summer to the violence on DC...

The vast majority of Black Lives Matter protests—more than 93%—have been peaceful, according to a new report published by a nonprofit that researches political violence and protests across the world.

The Armed Conflict Location & Event Data Project (ACLED) analyzed more than 7,750 Black Lives Matter demonstrations in all 50 states and Washington D.C. that took place in the wake of George Floyd’s death between May 26 and August 22.

Their report states that more than 2,400 locations reported peaceful protests, while fewer than 220 reported “violent demonstrations.” The authors define violent demonstrations as including “acts targeting other individuals, property, businesses, other rioting groups or armed actors.” Their definition includes anything from “fighting back against police” to vandalism, property destruction looting, road-blocking using barricades, burning tires or other materials. In cities where protests did turn violent—these demonstrations are “largely confined to specific blocks,” the report says.
That’s cool. The same thing is true of Trump rallies. So what? It was wrong of some idiots to storm the capital and it was wrong for BLM protests to turn into looting events.
 
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These are LIES. And yes, I will agree with you that anyone involved with violence and destruction of property at ANY type of protest should be rejected entirely and held to FULL account. NOBODY DISAGREES WITH YOU! But smashing some windows and stealing **** from 7-11 at the PERIPHERY of a protest is a WHOLE DIFFERENT THING than when a literal neo nazi white power mob attacks the seat of representative democracy in an attempt to overthrow an election. THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED. You are SPREADING LIES about who died -- ONE person was killed by police, it appear FOUR were killed by the crowd itself. The crowd of people wearing shirts saying things like "6 million wasn't enough."

See, you seem to be behind the times! It's all out int he open now, and we KNOW. WE KNOW. This is the vestige of the KKK attempting to rise up, we saw them replacing the American flag with Trump flags and the Confederate flag LIVE ON TV. Own it already. Own it. Own what the Republican party has become -- the public face of white power in America.

This is absolute trash you are spewing. You cannot take a radical fringe few and say that is what the Republican party has become. That’s like saying the Democratic Party is all radical left-wing liberals. If you have legit facts to share from a legitimate source about what happened, fine, but do NOT trash an entire political party because of actions of a radical few.
 
Hey - I agree with this. They just need to do it across the board. When they don’t, it makes them look like they’re taking sides.
Quick lesson: The other platforms have moderators, hate speech policies, the works. Ban people, kick them off their platforms. Parler does not, and was literally launched to give hate speech (and now literal planning of sedition) a place. Apple is done with it and so are all of us with any reason.
 
I never said the Democratic Party was a party of pedophiles. Did I actually say that? Pretty sure Trump is being accused of being a pedophile with zero evidence that is the case. Biden is pretty creepy with pictures to prove it. Do I think that means all democrats are pedophiles? Absolutely not. I know and love a lot of democrats.

Trump supporters have all been lumped into a category and called ignorant, deplorable, and every other thing under the sun. I have a lot of people that love me even though I voted for, and mostly support, Trump and his policies. I do not agree with everything he says or does, but I don’t think he nor his supporters deserve the blind hatred they have been dealt.

You can continue to think what you want, describe me how you want, attempt to belittle, whatever. You’re in your very own echo chamber as well. Unfortunately for you, I think there are a lot more people who think as I do than you’d like to believe, “conspiracy theories” and all.

As much fun as this has been, it’s getting late here, and I’m done. Since I typically keep the political forum blocked, so I don’t get involved in things like this, I will do my best to NOT return here tomorrow, tempting as it may be.
You, several times throughout this thread: Pretty sure your Hollywood liberal elite with their pedo rings and child molestation aren’t conservative republicans.

Did you mean to insinuate that all Democrats are pedophiles? Only you know that for sure. But you've brought up that tired line multiple times to suggest the Democratic party is devoid of morals. Don't want to be belittled? Don't bring up trite talking points.
 
Who is the brainwashed one? Stating all these well known fallacies, all at once...

Do you mean tax increase? Because anyone with children lost the deduction and, like me, pay more in taxes than ever before. Then the taxes will increase this year, 2023, 2025, 2027... Thanks Trump!

Then the repeal of net neutrality is ushering in data caps as the new norm. That's fun.

The highest unemployment rate since the Great Depression.

Highest minority unemployment rate in a decade.

Highest deficits ever and increasing the national debt after the last 2 Democratic Presidents lowered it.

A well documented racist with examples going back to the 70s.

Doesn't pay taxes.

Bankrupted every business he's ever managed.

Is actually dead broke and indebted to many foreign nations. A national security concern.

Oh... and let's just go right ahead to present day... attempted a coup and failed miserably because he relied Y'all Qaeda and Vanilla Isis to carry it out. Combined IQ of everyone present barely crested 100.
This is so disingenuous it’s hard to even have discussions. Let’s try people. Trump is responsible for the unemployment rate secondary to CV19 shutdowns out of his hands? People are so partisan they cannot even discuss. Just talking points.
 
If Apple does this, it has turned against the people. That dissent can even lead to boycotting Apple by some.
If by "the people" you mean the actual literal neo nazis who attempted to overthrow representative democracy in the United States on Wednesday, then you know what? Apple was actually always against them, and so are the rest of us with any sense.
 
It's funny how "the left" has referred to DJT as our President from day 1, yet this President attacked Obama for YEARS as not even being a legitimate President (for being black). I am so glad, in a way, that it's all out in the open now. The GOP is the public face of white power. There is no more denying it, and now we can excise the tumor FOREVER.

That was NOT because he was black. It’s because his birthplace was in question by some, believing he was not actually born in the US.
 
This is absolute trash you are spewing. You cannot take a radical fringe few and say that is what the Republican party has become. That’s like saying the Democratic Party is all radical left-wing liberals. If you have legit facts to share from a legitimate source about what happened, fine, but do NOT trash an entire political party because of actions of a radical few.
That's... exactly what you've been doing throughout this thread. Suggesting that the Democrat party is a party of baby killers, LGBT fanatics that's forcing others to "celebrate their lifestyle", hated filled and intolerant because some have called for Trump's death.

Again, you're not only in an echo chamber, you're also blind to facts and your own thoughts.
 
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This is absolute trash you are spewing. You cannot take a radical fringe few and say that is what the Republican party has become. That’s like saying the Democratic Party is all radical left-wing liberals. If you have legit facts to share from a legitimate source about what happened, fine, but do NOT trash an entire political party because of actions of a radical few.
That’s exactly what Republicans did all summer. What’s worse is that the looters and rioters weren’t Democrats so much as those taking advantage of the presence of large numbers of peaceful protestors. Conversely, the folks who ransacked the Capitol were there because of Trump who fomented their anger about a “stolen election” into sedition.
 
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Yes I did. I also agree with you that Apple is well within their rights to ask that. The issue is the hypocrisy in which they moderate platforms like Facebook, Twitter and Parler. That’s just what Apple does though. They tell Tumbler they can’t have porn on their all because it violates their T & Cs yet they allow Reddit to have porn.
From what I understand tumbler had child pornography on their site, they had issues with their algorithms. They eventually decided to shut down all porn on their site. Not entirely Apple decision but I understand that apple might have banned them for having child pornography.
 
There are MANY PICTURES of their shirts, flags, banners advertising their beliefs. Many are KNOWN MEMBERS of neo nazi groups! This is not a secret, it is out in the open! When you are a Proud Boy wearing a "6 million wasn't enough" shirt, which you can take ten seconds and look up all over the place from Wednesday, YOU ARE IN FACT A NEO NAZI. Do you even KNOW what that phrase refers to?!

And here's a little history lesson: It is very common for extremist right-wing movements to have their token minorities, which they embrace and tolerate "so long as they know their place." If my read of history is correct, white people literally sailed across the ocean, kidnapped black people, took them back to live amongst them, often in their very own homes, raising their children. Guess what -- slavery was still racist. Proximity of a few token minorities doesn't mean JACK.
So what happens when the founder of said group is a minority?
Also you should probably fact check the image that was being shown around the MSM. It wasn’t from the siege on the Capital. In fact I’m curious how the Anti Defamation
League was able to get that picture in their article on Dec 24th a full two weeks before it actually happened. 🙄

click here to time travel

Are their some racists in the Proud Boys? Of course there are. Is that guy an idiot for thinking 6 million is not enough? Of course he is.
Will you also please call out Gov Northam for his racist KKK/blackface picture in his yearbook with just as much enthusiasm as this picture take two weeks before the siege?
 
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This is absolute trash you are spewing. You cannot take a radical fringe few and say that is what the Republican party has become. That’s like saying the Democratic Party is all radical left-wing liberals. If you have legit facts to share from a legitimate source about what happened, fine, but do NOT trash an entire political party because of actions of a radical few.
Your President, who like it or hate it IS NOW ALL ON YOU, literally ordered this crowd of neo nazis to attack the capital. Don't play dumb. We all saw it, we saw his son, we saw Rudy. "TRIAL BY COMBAT!" -- uttered by Rudy before the crowd was directed to attack our Capital. Josh Hawley, raising his fist in support of the neo nazi crowd preparing to attack our seat of representative government.

Give it UP already -- the Emperor has no clothes, and by that I mean, the white-power tendencies of the Republican Party have been laid bare for all to see. Your President is the HEAD of your party. That is the literal truth. YOU OWN HIM. And you're never, ever gong to squirm out of it -- not now, and not across all of history. Mark my words. The GOP is DONE. These are its final, ugly death throes.
 
So what happens when the founder of said group is a minority?
Just because in some crowds, latinx individuals get to be "white" if they are literal neo nazi enough, does not make him anything other than a white power fascist. I see you squirming your way out of the "6 million wasn't enough" the proud boys so proudly wear on their shirts and waive on their flags. Squirm squirm squirm. We see right through it.
 
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From what I understand tumbler had child pornography on their site, they had issues with their algorithms. They eventually decided to shut down all porn on their site. Not entirely Apple decision but I understand that apple might have banned them for having child pornography.
To think their isn’t child porn on Reddit is very naive or really from any site for that matter.
 
Again, hate speech, racism and calls for violence are not protected speech.
Hate speech is protected speech. Racism is protected speech. Calls for general violence are protected speech. Calls for specific violence are not.

Why would we want to ban hate speech? What if the govt decided it’s hate speech to critize the govt because you hate gift officials? Or if they said it was hate speech to criticize the Catholic Church? Hate speech is too nebulous to make illegal. I prefer freer speech not less speech. Nebulous definitions like racism or hate would potentially seriously curtail speech. Would it be hate speech to point out that of the 100 fasts 100 m times 99 of them are by west black Africans. Is that hate speech against white because they are slow? Take something like pornography. It’s very hard for judges to agree on it so bans on it are difficult and often technical. How would that be for hate or racism?
 
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Right. Because if Obama's name was Joe Smith and was white, his birthplace would totally still have been brought up.
It's funny how "some people said" is how they describe what DJT said, just like DJT himself describes himself in the third person. These people are mental midgets at this point, they are in a cult frenzy and the cult is starting to take on the brown acid scary trip vibe. Parrots of anything Trump and says. It's going to take a lot of deprogramming to break through to any of them, and many are never coming back I'm afraid. But that's how nature works -- that which cannot adapt, dies off.
 
Nice to know that U.S. tech and social media companies are stepping up to protect the U.S. against enemies that want to do us harm.:) We need more of this in the future to insure our overall security. I heard that Congress has a bill flowing around that will close these loopholes and make what you say regulated by law now. So be very careful in what you say on social media in the future, not only you might get banned but might faces fines and possible jail too!
 
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You, several times throughout this thread: Pretty sure your Hollywood liberal elite with their pedo rings and child molestation aren’t conservative republicans.

Did you mean to insinuate that all Democrats are pedophiles? Only you know that for sure. But you've brought up that tired line multiple times to suggest the Democratic party is devoid of morals. Don't want to be belittled? Don't bring up trite talking points.

Well, I did mean to insinuate that the liberals in Hollywood who are pedophiles aren’t likely conservative republicans. I’m pretty sure that was in response to some line you gave about morals.

And honestly, I don’t feel belittled. I just think it makes you feel big and important to act like everything I say is trite, and everything you say is the all-important truth.
 
Hate speech is protected speech. Racism is protected speech. Calls for general violence are protected speech. Calls for specific violence are not.

Why would we want to ban hate speech? What if the govt decided it’s hate speech to critize the govt because you hate gift officials? Or if they said it was hate speech to criticize the Catholic Church? Hate speech is too nebulous to make illegal. I prefer freer speech not less speech. Nebulous definitions like racism or hate would potentially seriously curtail speech. Would it be hate speech to point out that of the 100 fasts 100 m times 99 of them are by west black Africans. Is that hate speech against white because they are slow? Take something like pornography. It’s very hard for judges to agree on it so bans on it are difficult and often technical. How would that be for hate or racism?
What all of the "stop the commies!" folks need to maybe consider, is that NO SPEECH IS PROTECTED ON PRIVATE PROPERTY. PERIOD. In the USA we respect private property, we are the NOT-commies, remember. And that means private companies who own private platforms can do WHATEVER THE HELL THEY WANT on them in terms of banning speech they don't like. Just like you can kick someone out of your house who says something you don't like. If you don't like it, maybe go to a communist country where private property isn't respected by the ruling party. Russia or China perhaps?
 
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