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Did you people actually read what apple is asking them to do?? Apple is well within their rights to ask the company to monitor and remove content promoting violence, riots, and other criminal activities!
 
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And it was totally amazing to see all the neo nazis, boogaloo boys, proud boys etc caught inciting riots, starting fires, hurling stuff at police to get a violent response, etc
This is as silly and partisan a view as the people on the right saying the idiots who entered the capital were ANTIFA. It’s just a level of self delusion I cannot imagine. The vast majority of the violence over the summer was done by exactly who was obviously doing it. Just like the majority of the group entering the capital today was done by the people who showed up for the protests. Every side needs to be big enough to own their own crazies doing violence and handle it.
 
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These are LIES. And yes, I will agree with you that anyone involved with violence and destruction of property at ANY type of protest should be rejected entirely and held to FULL account. NOBODY DISAGREES WITH YOU! But smashing some windows and stealing **** from 7-11 at the PERIPHERY of a protest is a WHOLE DIFFERENT THING than when a literal neo nazi white power mob attacks the seat of representative democracy in an attempt to overthrow an election. THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED. You are SPREADING LIES about who died -- ONE person was killed by police, it appear FOUR were killed by the crowd itself. The crowd of people wearing shirts saying things like "6 million wasn't enough."

See, you seem to be behind the times! It's all out int he open now, and we KNOW. WE KNOW. This is the vestige of the KKK attempting to rise up, we saw them replacing the American flag with Trump flags and the Confederate flag LIVE ON TV. Own it already. Own it. Own what the Republican party has become -- the public face of white power in America.
The people at the Capital were Neo Nazis? What facts do you have? I saw the majo of the people there were white but I also saw some black and Hispanic.
Here are some facts:
1 unarmed lady was murdered by police.
1 man had a heart attack
1 man had a heart attack
1 man fell from a balcony/ledge
1 one police officer was killed but nobody is saying how or what he died from.
 
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A lot of people here don’t seem to understand that Apple doesn’t have a problem with the fact that the app promotes right-wing ideas, but with the fact that the app was used to promote/organize a domestic terrorist attack.
 
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Would you recommend storming the Capital and literally trying to overthrow representative democracy because your candidate lost the election? Because that's what's being organized on Parler quite literally. And we're not going to accept it AT ALL. Go cry about it on the nazi web. We're not going to enable it any more.
Uhhhhh. No I don’t recommend storming the capital and have condemned it since it happened so who the hell are you talking to? Are you just making up some imaginary person to fight with? Good luck with that.
 
The people at the Capital were Neo Nazis? What facts do you have? I saw the majo of the people there were white but I also saw some black and Hispanic.
Here are some facts:
1 unarmed lady was murdered by police.
1 man had a heart attack
1 man had a heart attack
1 man fell from a balcony/ledge
1 one police officer was killed but nobody is saying how or what he died from.
There are MANY PICTURES of their shirts, flags, banners advertising their beliefs. Many are KNOWN MEMBERS of neo nazi groups! This is not a secret, it is out in the open! When you are a Proud Boy wearing a "6 million wasn't enough" shirt, which you can take ten seconds and look up all over the place from Wednesday, YOU ARE IN FACT A NEO NAZI. Do you even KNOW what that phrase refers to?!

And here's a little history lesson: It is very common for extremist right-wing movements to have their token minorities, which they embrace and tolerate "so long as they know their place." If my read of history is correct, white people literally sailed across the ocean, kidnapped black people, took them back to live amongst them, often in their very own homes, raising their children. Guess what -- slavery was still racist. Proximity of a few token minorities doesn't mean JACK.
 
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You all are insane. Twitter moderates violence on their platform. Parler does not. That’s the difference. Now if you’re all insinuating that conservative thought = violence, then that is a fundamental problem that needs to be dealt with. And that’s why I left the republican party 5 years ago. You all have gone crazy. Too much hate and violence. Things were actually going pretty well five years ago until you guys came in a screwed up everything going to the extreme and now this blood is on your hands. I’m a Christian and I’m about love and helping others. So many of you people call yourselves a Christian but all you know is hate. Christians in name only. Love your fellow man. Love and help the least of us, those coming to our country with nothing looking for help. Children needing food and clean water. I’m disgusted by what Christianity in this country has become today and how politicians use it as a tool to manipulate the masses. People want to outlaw abortion but then do nothing to help a single mom or child after the baby is born. No support. No love. Only hate because of differences. But our differences only make us stronger. We were all created in the image of a loving God. Get over yourselves. Stop the hate. Stop the selfishness. Or else we’re going to rip this country in half! Or is that your goal? Sickening. I won’t be listening to any responses to this post. I’m over it. I can’t take any more hate, violence, bigotry, conspiracy and idiocracy. All I can do is try to raise my kids to be better for our future, but I weep for them.
 
Did you people actually read what apple is asking them to do?? Apple is well within their rights to ask the company to monitor and remove content promoting violence, riots, and other criminal activities!
Yes I did. I also agree with you that Apple is well within their rights to ask that. The issue is the hypocrisy in which they moderate platforms like Facebook, Twitter and Parler. That’s just what Apple does though. They tell Tumbler they can’t have porn on their all because it violates their T & Cs yet they allow Reddit to have porn.
 
Yes we do. You're part of the Trump cult who changes iPhones every 2 weeks because you have nothing else going on in your life. What occurred Wednesday was an INSURRECTION against the US government by TRUMP SUPPORTERS. TRUMP wanted this to happen which is why he is a traitor.
Lol.
worst insurrection ever. No guns. No plan. That’s not an insurrection. Stop hyperventilating. It was idiots committing a criminal act that everyone have condemned that sullied and otherwise peaceful protests. I think it was a mostly peaceful protest as they say on TV.
 
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My only issue with the Parler app being told this is they should have done it on day one, not 2+ years later.

it was plainly obvious over the past two years or so that this app did not moderate like Apple would like to see be done.
 
The people at the Capital were Neo Nazis? What facts do you have? I saw the majo of the people there were white but I also saw some black and Hispanic.
Here are some facts:
1 unarmed lady was murdered by police.
1 man had a heart attack
1 man had a heart attack
1 man fell from a balcony/ledge
1 one police officer was killed but nobody is saying how or what he died from.
5 more COVID-related deaths.
 
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Since you won't answer my question, the answer is 0. BLM was peacefully protesting and they can't control what criminals will do. I suspect more people were arrested for those riots than what will happen yesterday.

Is there a line where you would leave the Trump cult? Personally, if I supported someone who ordered for small innocent children to be separated from their parents, that would have ended things for me. Looks like that wasn't enough for you. And even an actual Insurrection on US soil isn't doing it either.
Obama started the child separation policy. He did it for a simple reason - sometimes you don’t know which children belong to which parents. It was a tough choice his administration made. Like many things there are no easy answers.
 
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Do you realize how that sounds? We have to legalize a drug and reform the police so the blacks are less discriminated against? Turns out, that sounds really flipping racist.

FWIW, I’m all for legalizing marijuana, and although I am sure some reform is probably useful in police departments, I’m also against them being attacked for every shooting. Their lives are on the line and at risk, they have split seconds to make decisions that are life and death, and they get paid squat for that.
It's racist... to try to fix a broken system that disproportionately affects African Americans more than other races? Of course you think that.

There's a reason why I brought up both drug and police reforms as examples - they go hand-in-hand. But obviously, you decide to go full throttle with the bad faith arguments again (because apparently I was suggesting that we should "attack " cops for every shooting).


I don't expect you to read this article given your desire to "think for yourself".

And that's all I have for you. :)
 
Lol.
worst insurrection ever. No guns. No plan. That’s not an insurrection. Stop hyperventilating. It was idiots committing a criminal act that everyone have condemned that sullied and otherwise peaceful protests. I think it was a mostly peaceful protest as they say on TV.
It may not have been a storming of the Bastille, but the bottom line is, these people have bought into the false proposition that the election was stolen, and they need to "take back our country (not) with weakness. You have to show strength." - Trump's own words, prior. These people's intent was very clear and it wasn't peaceful.
 
The people at the Capital were Neo Nazis? What facts do you have? I saw the majo of the people there were white but I also saw some black and Hispanic.
Here are some facts:
1 unarmed lady was murdered by police.
1 man had a heart attack
1 man had a heart attack
1 man fell from a balcony/ledge
1 one police officer was killed but nobody is saying how or what he died from.
More lies. More lies. And you know what? No more tolerance for the BS. Watcht he video of that poor stupid woman being shot in the face, surrounded by a mob that was trying to break through a door to literally get to our elected officials, commit acts of violence, and literally block the democratic certification of an election from happening. You can see her surrounded by folks adorned with neo nazi white power Proud Boys paraphernalia, right before she was shot in the face and died, because she was radicalized by an insane President who is GOING DOWN. This was an armed violent crowd, they erected a gallows directly in front of the Capital, many were overheard talking about killing politicians. THESE ARE THE FACTS.
 
And for the fourth time - what party a person belongs to has absolutely no meaning if that person argues in bad faith and pulls facts from an alternate dimension (yes, I'm describing you as well).

I'm not making light of pedophilia. I am, however, laughing at your attempts to suggest that because there exists people from Hollywood that are pedophiles that are also liberals that means the Democratic party is a party of pedophiles. Or, that the Democratic party is a party of "baby killers" because late-stage abortions are a thing. By your logic, whatever party you believe you align with is a party of nut jobs.

I'm sure you think that what you believe in isn't ridiculous. That's how an echo chamber works. Fortunately, there's more people that exists that don't subscribe to your conspiracy theories. And you're right, I don't have to be tolerant of your beliefs just as much as you don't have to be of mine.

I never said the Democratic Party was a party of pedophiles. Did I actually say that? Pretty sure Trump is being accused of being a pedophile with zero evidence that is the case. Biden is pretty creepy with pictures to prove it. Do I think that means all democrats are pedophiles? Absolutely not. I know and love a lot of democrats.

Trump supporters have all been lumped into a category and called ignorant, deplorable, and every other thing under the sun. I have a lot of people that love me even though I voted for, and mostly support, Trump and his policies. I do not agree with everything he says or does, but I don’t think he nor his supporters deserve the blind hatred they have been dealt.

You can continue to think what you want, describe me how you want, attempt to belittle, whatever. You’re in your very own echo chamber as well. Unfortunately for you, I think there are a lot more people who think as I do than you’d like to believe, “conspiracy theories” and all.

As much fun as this has been, it’s getting late here, and I’m done. Since I typically keep the political forum blocked, so I don’t get involved in things like this, I will do my best to NOT return here tomorrow, tempting as it may be.
 
Hey - I agree with this. They just need to do it across the board. When they don’t, it makes them look like they’re taking sides.
Twitter and Facebook already have policies in place. That doesn’t mean some stuff won’t get through, particularly with a billion users. Parler, conversely is a free for all. I could go on there right now and start recruiting people to help me exterminate the Jews without any moderation of that content. That’s a problem.
 
Lol.
worst insurrection ever. No guns. No plan. That’s not an insurrection. Stop hyperventilating. It was idiots committing a criminal act that everyone have condemned that sullied and otherwise peaceful protests. I think it was a mostly peaceful protest as they say on TV.
The crowd WAS armed. They erected a gallows in front of congress and many were overheard discussing killing politicians. They were led by KNOWN neo nazis and white power loons. You keep making excuses and you know -- it kinda makes me think you are ok with it. Here's the thing -- it's not, and it is GOING DOWN.
 
A lot of people here don’t seem to understand that Apple doesn’t have a problem with the fact that the app promotes right-wing ideas, but with the fact that the app was used to promote/organize a domestic terrorist attack.
You can do the same by phone, email, or text. Want to ban all those too?

You can even do that by sharing a calendar event. Want to ban the calendar app?
 
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You can continue to think what you want, describe me how you want, attempt to belittle, whatever. You’re in your very own echo chamber as well. Unfortunately for you, I think there are a lot more people who think as I do than you’d like to believe, “conspiracy theories” and all.
This is where you are so very very wrong lady, and this is why the racist GOP has just been kicked totally out of power, and by god, LET US HOPE FOREVER.
 
It is obvious we need better education including an investment in critical thinking skills.

I can’t speak for others but outside of the nefarious, the aim is not to tell you what to think but rather know that we start from the same basic principles (as a people), act in good faith and be vigilent for inaccurate information.

America clearly isn‘t in a place where we share a common set of principles (and facts) that guide our actions. Companies like Apple, Twitter, Facebook, etc are trying to navigate something that we are not equipped to handle. For example, no matter how many times someone says it here - the First Ammendment has no bearing on what is being discussed here. Why is it being invoked? Because there is nothing else that applies to what we’re trying to achieve and more importantly we have not come to an agreement on what should be applied.

For example, do we agree that violent speech should not be tolerated whether I agree with it or not?
Violent speech is protected speech. But speech that says, “at 2 PM on Tuesday I want you to burn down Target on Main Street” is not. That’s the law. That’s one place to start.
 
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