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Apple Threatens to Ban Parler From App Store as Twitter Bans Donald Trump
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This is quite literally what is happening. Military leadership have been turning a blind eye to this for ages, because recruiting efforts apparently require accepting neo nazis into our armed forces and giving them military grade weapons and training. If this sounds ******* to you, I encourage you to call your House rep and Senators and tell them to put and end to it.
Ironically, its people like Trump, who more than anyone, love to have their own companies be able to do what they want and screw people over.
I do, however, strongly agree that curtailing the free speech of people you don't like is extremely dangerous.
Don’t understand how does that change what I’ve said. If you wanna go technical its not really the forum. ... when I said, you buy the device, I meant that it also includes that you own the licence to use whatever it comes with it!
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They left the party and started The Lincoln Project to burn down what's left of the now totally corrupt GOP. The rest were actually quite OK with white power and Donald Trump, it turns out. Was it really a shock, after the last 40 years, and even further back? The GOP became the party of white power racism when it accepted the Democrats who left that party when the Dems decided to purge themselves of this vile garbage. The Republicans were all too happy to welcome them in with open arms. This is very much what happened in the 20th Century, and the GOP has been garbage ever since (and getting worse by the month).
You explicitly said you “own a copy of the software” before you, of course edited it out. You were under the impression that you actually own both the iPhone and the iOS that comes with it until I pointed you to the Terms.
Licensing comes with terms that you’re bound to unlike actually owning something where you’re free to do whatever you want.
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Should students in a classroom be able to call black kids the n-word? Oh that's right, we censor people all the time in civil society for being vile garbage and not being able to play by the rules.
Whine whine, my app was taken down from the app store! The idea that this is real censorship of ideas in a free society is ludicrous and a total failure to know how actual tyrannies like China and Russia, Iran and North Korea, operate. They don't take your app off the app store if they want to shut you up -- they lock you up forever, or just kill you. THAT is extremely dangerous. Taking an app off the app store for openly allowing people to plan a violent overthrow of the democratically-elected government of the United States is WHOLLY reasonable. So would rounding up all of the seditious garbage who attempted this coup, locking them up, and throwing away the key forever. And it is happening as we SPEAK! Bye bye Proud Boys. One by one, down the dark hole, where they will be forgotten.
No, you are incorrect. Other apps have moderators and policies preventing violent planning of harmful acts, while this is going on OUT IN THE OPEN on Parler, a platform that was literally created to give these people a place when the other social networks started kicking this garbage off their platforms.
You have failed to answer a single question correctly today on the show, but thank you for playing.
No man. I work in the industry for 40 years. So I do know what you said is technically more correct. I was talking as people usually do. Still it does not change my point in any way.
Apple does not separate their devices from the software. The device and the software are one. Steve Jobs said so many times. Owning, the devices, you own the licence. So if you ban an a third party app or service from the App Store, a component of the software, you ban the app from the device as there is not other way to access it but through that component. Yet nether the device or the licence is their to do so, the customer have bought both.
Email tcook@apple.com and tell him to take it down NOW. This is his real (public) email address. Took me 20 seconds.
Parler has already removed posts from Lin Wood, so there may be some negotiating going on.
The word "license" specifically MEANS you do not own it, you are licensing it. For being in the tech industry for 40 years, I'd think you would have figured out not only this concept by now, but the actual literal meaning of the words the industry has been using to describe this model for decades.
I work in entertainment. If a production licenses a song, they don't own it. They are licensed to use it. There's a difference.
Maybe you should read (and highlight) a few more sentences down where it says of the LIMITED license: "This license DOES NOT GRANT you ANY rights to use Apple proprietary interfaces and other intellectual property in the design, development, manufacture, licensing, or distribution of third party devices or accessories, OR THIRD PARTY SOFTWARE APPLICATIONS, for use with Devices."
I know, it really stinks when legal agreements say things you don't agree with and it bites you in the butt when you violate said agreements and the other party takes action. If only we were a society of brute force and anarchy.
Yes, you got that part right though. They ban an app from the AppStore, you can’t get updates but you can still use the app that’s already installed. And Apple’s agreement is between you and their own products of which Parler is not a part of. So banning Parler app doesn’t constitute any violations on behalf of Apple so to speak.
People usually complain about taking things out of context so if you’re “talking like people usually do” there’s a good chance no one gets the context but you.
And Apple usually bundles them together cuz it makes it easier for people to just use their devices and goes with their “it just works” slogan. But they’re still separate or you wouldn’t have separate events for software (WWDC) and the hardware. And I can’t verify your “40 years” claim so I’m not gonna comment/consider that.
It’s only hateful if a person has conservative views. Left-wing extremist are free to spew whatever BS they want on social media and get away with it.
If you disagree with a private company choosing what apps and products it has on its store, feel free to send me your Apple products! Put your money where your mouth is! Since you were willing to give Parler your social, feel free to send that and your name and DOB (which you also give to Parler) over as well.
I'll go one step further — Apple and Google should BOTH nuke the app from users' devices. They both can, and they should.
Not to mention I see some of the same commenters talking about this like it's 1984 who cheered Apple kicking Fortnite off. Can't have your cake and eat it too.
I'll go one step further — Apple and Google should BOTH nuke the app from users' devices. They both can, and they should.
Not to mention I see some of the same commenters talking about this like it's 1984 who cheered Apple kicking Fortnite off. Can't have your cake and eat it too.
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Where do you see conservative views being silenced, rather than incitements to violence? Or are you saying incitements to violence are conservative viewpoints?
ITT: I learned there's a daily limit to the "Disagree" button.
Also, idiots who think this is a free speech issue. Newsflash - it isn't. Free speech is the Government. Corporations can do whatever they want in the confines of the law. The Constitution binds the Government. It doesn't bind Corporations. (Note: we still aren't governed by corporations despite the right's efforts to empower them infinitely.)
Also, idiots who think this is a free speech issue. Newsflash - it isn't. Free speech is the Government. Corporations can do whatever they want in the confines of the law. The Constitution binds the Government. It doesn't bind Corporations. (Note: we still aren't governed by corporations despite the right's efforts to empower them infinitely.)
Reagan and Nixon were both known to be bigots, but they didn't represent the country that way. California is so diverse.
It's funny how the center has become the left, and the left has become extreme left.
Exactly. It’s inciting violence. Free speech does not protect you when you use it to hurt or plan on hurting others. Your rights are not above everyone else’s.
And yet that is what the left has tried to do for the last four years. Constant harassment of a legitimate President and his Administration.
This hyperbole is not true at all.
That being said, maybe instead of lamenting the overuse of the word "nazi" or the phrase "white supremacist", conservatives could have a come to Jesus moment and actually acknowledge and weed out the indisputable and verifiable Nazis and white supremacists (there's photos and videos and proclamations, oh my!) living in their party's grass, and not turning a blind eye to them and the party leadership that tacitly courts them.
Until then, though...
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