In the guidelines it says that the app can offer special deals and promotions in return for enabling tracking, but not an incentive. That seems like a fine line. Promotions can be free or discounted products. I guess Fortnite can offer free emotes but not give V-bucks with which you can buy emotes in return for tracking.
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Apple to Ban Apps That Reward Users for Enabling App Tracking
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So if I read this correctly, and I swear I do know how to read, this means that developers can't limit functionality until you accept their ads correct?
I'm 50/50 about the ability of having a competing App Store.
I do understand Apple wanting to keep apps and their ecosystem clean. But when I used to jailbreak I did love the tweaks and themes I could download from the Cydia store, although some of them made my iPhone crash more often then if I didn't have them. But I knew that came with the territory.
I might be wrong but if in settings/privacy/tracking you selected No, then no app will ask you
Settings > Privacy > Tracking > Allow apps to request to track.
That setting must be on. The help on that page explains in detail.
I hear you but also think, where do you stand if you “Sell your data” then 6 months later you’re annoyed with the Ad’s etc your receiving. Where do you stand with retracting your data considering you’ve “already been paid” as such.
That would be a messy situation
The average user has no clue as to the extent they are being tracked. If it were known to the masses, there would almost certainly be a major shift in their sentiment.
Apple is at the head of that list. They want all the tracking to themselves because that ability to do so on apple devices is apple’s goldmine. And apple’s alone. Just enjoy the iAds.
I wasn't getting any either and then i realized that the setting to allow apps to request to track is turned off by default so no app will ask.
Agreed. I wouldn’t do it, but I think it’s fair to offer. Also kind of in the same vein, I think developers should probably be allowed to cripple their apps for those who choose no tracking. The goal was transparency and choice for the user, I think not to destroy the tracking business model completely, which is basically what Apple is doing if they force developers to offer the same experience as a result of both choices, because honestly given the choice with the exact same outcomes, why would any users choose ‘allow’? I understand why Apple and users don’t want crippled apps, but I think these particular rules make the tracking business model impossible, and while I think it’s a creepy business model, some users may actually prefer to pay for apps with their personal data rather than money, or give up personal data for another reward of some sort. I actually wonder if this will land Apple in legal trouble or if it’s within their legal right to effectively force out a business model.
First paragraph of the article….. ATT = App Tracking Transparency, not AT&T the company.
There's no evidence to support your sentiment. There is however ample anecdotal evidence that says people don't care. That evidence is manifested in app activity. Out of the top 10 apps downloaded, 4 belong to Facebook (Nos. 2,3,4, and 6). https://www.businessofapps.com/data/most-popular-apps/ To say the average user doesn't know the extent they're being tracked would be a stretch. People know FB tracks the everlovin' snot out of them. It's the same thing with the popularity of Google's apps. People generally don't care. Their calculus tends to be: "I get what I want, they get to push ads that I can ignore." Win-win in their eyes.
More importantly, they generally don't care about privacy anyway. They lay bare the minutiae of their lives in excruciating detail on a daily basis. They do it on social media, in games, and in other online content.
If the only consequence of tracking is personalized ads, privacy advocates are going to find a hard time convincing the average consumer of the benefits of their way of thinking.
You mention there's no evidence people don't have much idea they're being tracked but where's your evidence people don't care?
My take on why Apple won't allow payment for tracking: Apps don't state what they track and what they do with it. The situation is ripe for misrepresentation of the deal people are being coerced into.
Well, Apple is the one who gets to decide, since it's their platform. I believe the principle here is they don't want users bribed into giving away something that they would otherwise not want to give away. Developers will be able to explain in their own words why they think the user should enable tracking, so they get a chance to make their case.
Did you not read my quote? The second sentence says 'anecdotal evidence' and I use the rest of the paragraph to expand on that exact evidence. Planteater's quote claiming average users don't know and if they did they'd act differently... yeah, there's still nothing -anecdotal or otherwise- that supports that contention. It's certainly not supported by user activity on iOS or Android.
The situation for misrepresentation is no more ripe than it was before ATT, which is just going into effect btw. Where are the abuses and/or misrepresentations from last week? last month? last year? last decade? They're pretty much non-existent. So now all of a sudden they're going to pop up just because?
The App Store was fine then, it's fine now. If Apple allowed compensation for tracking, the App Store would still be fine. There's nothing out there that even remotely suggests it wouldn't be.
Then why give the user the option to agree to be tracked in the first place ? The user can agree to it but not be compensated for it.
Apple is claiming to give users control over their privacy and I applaud them for that but now they are saying we give you control over your privacy but decide what you can do with it.
Personnaly I would not agree anyway but the morality of it is questionable.
Previously I said Apple didn't care about your privacy, just a publicity stunt against Google. With this I change my mind. Go, Apple, Go!
You actually are, you are exchanging your data for the use of YouTube, Gmail, Google Maps, Gdrive, Whatsapp, Instagram, Chrome...etc . You thought those were free?
You actually are, you are exchanging your data for the use of YouTube, Gmail, Google Maps, Gdrive, Whatsapp, Instagram, Chrome...etc . You thought those were free?