Add Precise Location to this. ESPN+ abusing this. Not all their content needs this and really only need city you are in.
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If you want, you can. If you use the Brave browser and decide to join their Ad Program, ad money is splut 3 ways: Content maker, you, and Brave. Although I don't think they track or personally target you, you get paid for seeing the ad kind of like watch ads on tv.
I most certainly read your entire prior post. Here's where I don't follow (quoting you):
"If the only consequence of tracking is personalized ads, privacy advocates are going to find a hard time convincing the average consumer of the benefits of their way of thinking."
That's a big "if" that none of us can verify is really correct.
Dude… you aren’t ‘selling your info’, because you’re not getting paid for it… the people who have harvested your ‘buying profile’ are, but you’re not getting a cent! 🙄
“entirely can't be done at a system level.” They can to a decent degree if they add system wide content blocker.
↑↑That's entirely different from your original criticism where questioned my lack of evidence regarding people not caring.
You're trying to parse sections of my quotes sans context. It doesn't work that way. The section you quoted above only has meaning when viewed as a whole:
"More importantly, they generally don't care about privacy anyway. They lay bare the minutiae of their lives in excruciating detail on a daily basis. They do it on social media, in games, and in other online content. If the only consequence of tracking is personalized ads, privacy advocates are going to find a hard time convincing the average consumer of the benefits of their way of thinking."
That section essentially says I think people don't care about privacy. It also says I think they demonstrate that by putting their private info out on a daily basis for everyone to see. It's what they do. It's what they like to do... a lot. I also think if the only consequence is they get personalized ads . I think they aren't going to change. Someone saying ad tracking is bad isn't going to make a person change their habits. It would take a far greater threat than personalized ads to get people to change. Personalized ads aren't a big enough boogeyman to affect change.
sadly facebook as a pretty easy way around the app tracking. As once you log in to your facebook account that is a id that can be used on any app that signs in with facebook.....
There is a reason I do not use my facebook account to sign into anything but facebook
I would certainly be for Apple acquiring an app like Lockdown and having it preinstalled on all their devices. But I can also imagine the flurry of lawsuits that come flying its way, especially by google and Facebook.
Lockdown Privacy: VPN & Proxy
Lockdown blocks trackers and badware in all your apps, blocking an estimated 100 million trackers per month for over 300,000 people. — Comprehensive Protection — Lockdown has two privacy features: Firewall and Secure Tunnel VPN. Each feature protects you from different threats, creating the...
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I think you missed my point. Currently, you are correct, but if a company offers me money to buy my info, should I be allowed to sell it?
It's actually enabled by default. It's wise to check the facts before formulating an opinion based on them.
This is the classy stuff that makes me willing to pay Apple wheelbarrows full of cash. I’m so thankful Apple takes such thoughtful care of their users. Thank you Apple!
Good. Apple needs to do this for location tracking as well.
ESPN app doesn’t allow you to stream live content unless you give it precise location access, which it doesn’t need.
ESPN app doesn’t allow you to stream live content unless you give it precise location access, which it doesn’t need.
It was not enabled on any of the devices in my household, but that may not be universal or could be based on some other user setting one has. One thing is sure though there was not a full screen notification about the change.
No, I find your lack of courage to leave Facebook because of your family is a bit of sorry excuse.
ATT is just a illusion!!!
Was very excited about ATT and watched a lot of content explaing it's working...
Eventually stumbled upon this
very underrated video!!!
And Now it all seems like a big lie to me!!
Was very excited about ATT and watched a lot of content explaing it's working...
Eventually stumbled upon this
And Now it all seems like a big lie to me!!
My apologies...But, I did not quite understand you mate...There’s likely a pretty good reason for that.
Do you find that video to be not good... or are you talking about the content inside the video?
YouTube videos in general, due to what YouTube requires to drive creator success, are designed to be controversial/click-baity. A general rule of thumb is, if the thumbnail shows someone with their mouths open, then they’re more concerned with getting you to watch their video than they are presenting a valid point. Oh, and a liberal amount of question marks/exclamation points seals the deal
With that understanding going into it, it is very likely underrated because it’s an unremarkable video posing questionable or misleading information in order to grow their channel.
Hmmmmmm...I understand & agree to your point!!YouTube videos in general, due to what YouTube requires to drive creator success, are designed to be controversial/click-baity. A general rule of thumb is, if the thumbnail shows someone with their mouths open, then they’re more concerned with getting you to watch their video than they are presenting a valid point. Oh, and a liberal amount of question marks/exclamation points seals the deal
With that understanding going into it, it is very likely underrated because it’s an unremarkable video posing questionable or misleading information in order to grow their channel.
Although, did you watch that video??....Like, after watching the video, the thumbnail doesn't seem as a clickbait to me...?
The video helped broaden my perspective about all of this and made me re-consider....
Did it not do the same thing for you?
How did you recieve the video?
Eager to know....
Erm, surely that's my decision not to cut off ties with the people I love????
I post very little on there (other than comments to my family members), but you sound like a wonderful human if you prioritise cutting off your loved ones so you don't have to use a social network. 🙄
What is true in the video is that Facebook and other apps will be able to track you, even if you activated the ATT. For instance, if I run an app base on a website which require a login, I still will be able to track the pages you visited via the app. I will know from you all the data you gave me through registering, your IP (so your country), your browser, your device…
In fact, the Apple privacy setting deals with the Advertising ID from the user/device. Let's say there is a third party tracking service company named TRACK-UR-USERS (that could be Google
) which is used by several apps. If you allow tracking, the TRACK-UR-USERS tracker within apps will be able to collect data from several apps you are using and consolidate all this data into one profile with this ID.For instance, if you are using Facebook, they will know which contents you accessed. If you are using a running companion, it will be able to track your specific location at a specific day/time. If you are using a streaming music app, it will be able to know which artists you listened to. If you are using Alibaba, it will be able to track which products you visited. And so on, it will be able to track anything you do with apps using the tracker TRACK-UR-USERS.
Since you allow tracking, TRACK-UR-USERS will be able to consolidate all this data and make a precise profile from you, knowing where and when you were, which music you like and what you intended to buy. TRACK-UR-USERS will then buy able to sell the data to Facebook. If you don't allow the Facebook app to localise you, Facebook will be able to know your location anyway since you used a running companion app (for which obviously you allowed the localisation).
If you do not allow tracking via ATT, then TRACK-UR-USERS will still be able to track, but will not be able to consolidate the data into one profile (or it would be more tricky).
if you're profile is not precise, with the scenario I explained before, Facebook will not be able to show an advertising from Alibaba based on your tracking or any avertising based on your location for instance.
But it does not only deal with advertising, this is about personal data. We are using a lot of apps and we may have different confidentiality settings per app and we may be more confident with some apps than with others, so we risk a leak of personal data we don't want to share.
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No, because, as Firebush has indicated, they’re basically describing what everyone knows in a disingenuous fashion. They’re feigning alarm and have obfuscated the technical details in a obvious attempt to produce a video that raises alarm in others such that those folks will share the video as widely as possible. That the content isn’t accurate? They don’t care. By that time, folks have already clicked and watched it and that’s one more view for them!
I don’t blame them, it’s the nature of the platform that they’re on. They’re expending the effort to produce a video and, if that video says,“This blocks cross site tracking, but companies will still be able to track. They will just lack the ability to track at a device level and will have to come up with workarounds if they still want that level,” then it most certainly won’t get the number of views that’s worth even going through the effort to produce an upload the video. YouTube may even punish them if this video doesn’t perform as well as prior videos.
It’s no mistake that there’s no YouTuber I regularly watch content from that does one of those thumbnails.
First Of All!!!, Damnnnnnnn Bruhhhhhhhhhhhh 🔥🔥🔥🔥What is true in the video is that Facebook and other apps will be able to track you, even if you activated the ATT. For instance, if I run an app base on a website which require a login, I still will be able to track the pages you visited via the app. I will know from you all the data you gave me through registering, your IP (so your country), your browser, your device…
In fact, the Apple privacy setting deals with the Advertising ID from the user/device. Let's say there is a third party tracking service company named TRACK-UR-USERS (that could be Google
For instance, if you are using Facebook, they will know which contents you accessed. If you are using a running companion, it will be able to track your specific location at a specific day/time. If you are using a streaming music app, it will be able to know which artists you listened to. If you are using Alibaba, it will be able to track which products you visited. And so on, it will be able to track anything you do with apps using the tracker TRACK-UR-USERS.
Since you allow tracking, TRACK-UR-USERS will be able to consolidate all this data and make a precise profile from you, knowing where and when you were, which music you like and what you intended to buy. TRACK-UR-USERS will then buy able to sell the data to Facebook. If you don't allow the Facebook app to localise you, Facebook will be able to know your location anyway since you used a running companion app (for which obviously you allowed the localisation).
If you do not allow tracking via ATT, then TRACK-UR-USERS will still be able to track, but will not be able to consolidate the data into one profile (or it would be more tricky).
if you're profile is not precise, with the scenario I explained before, Facebook will not be able to show an advertising from Alibaba based on your tracking or any avertising based on your location for instance.
But it does not only deal with advertising, this is about personal data. We are using a lot of apps and we may have different confidentiality settings per app and we may be more confident with some apps than with others, so we risk a leak of personal data we don't want to share.
Really liked the way you explained!!! 🔥🔥
Also, thanks for making an effort to explain broadly!! 🙌😁
I had a big debate with an another person in some other article about the same topic...And after having that debate with that person...Really appreciate your open mindedness to the topic!!! 💯 💯
There's another thing that I find to be true in the video...For every major permission request that we have had, like for eg:- Camera, Mic, etc...
We always had an option such as 'Alow' or 'deny' which kind of puts us or the user in more power...
But in this case, having an option that says 'Ask', changes the balance of power entirely!!
And he made a really good point by addressing that!!!
Like some people might think that he's playing word games for popularity, views, etc...But if you give it a thought yourself, for almost every important permission, we always had options like 'Allow' or 'Deny'...
Why was the option more of a like a request in this case??!!! I think tracking across third pary apps and websites might even be more sensitive than something like storage access or something like that(just giving an example)
So why does it feel to be kind of skimped for something Sensitive?!
I hope I was able to explain my point in a understandable way... 😅
Would love to know your thoughts on this...
Thanks for taking the time to read this! 😉
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