It's odd considering Israel's only 63 years old. Last I checked they became a statehood in May of 1948. Regardless, you can't argue that rockets flying into public transportation and all the other jewish/arab conflict tension doesn't exist, because it does and will continue to do so, unless both sides TRY to make an attempt to solve the problem.
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Apple to Build Semiconductor R&D Center in Israel?
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It's odd considering Israel's only 63 years old. Last I checked they became a statehood in May of 1948. Regardless, you can't argue that rockets flying into public transportation and all the other jewish/arab conflict tension doesn't exist, because it does and will continue to do so, unless both sides TRY to make an attempt to solve the problem.
Next thing you know they'll be building their head office on a major fault line.
There is no reason why the Atom could not blow the gates off of the x86 if it was scaled to a VLIW architecture. You would lose all the power savings you get from the current architecture and you would need to code for explicitly parallel execution, however, I could see an easy x10 performance over x86. It would require someone like Intel or AMD to do the heavy lifting for the chip design.
Really, I have visited the Holy Land a few years ago, the news frontlines constantly rattle about how many bombings and people killed, which shopping center had an explosion. And armed snipers walking around is a norm. Where do you live that you call it safe
What's interesting is there is more corporate blast back for locating in North Carolina or Israel, than Brazil or China.
If Russia ever gets a legitimate rule of law, look for Apple to move in fast.
In the mean time this is in a well developed industrial and intellectual area and just happens to be in the center of "Arabia". A true destination for many persons worldwide, second only to Mecca.
Hmmm. Apple store Mecca. It could happen!
Rocketman
If Russia ever gets a legitimate rule of law, look for Apple to move in fast.
In the mean time this is in a well developed industrial and intellectual area and just happens to be in the center of "Arabia". A true destination for many persons worldwide, second only to Mecca.
Hmmm. Apple store Mecca. It could happen!
Rocketman
Point of order: Is it acceptable to bring up points as to how politics relate to Apple business? I am not talking about taking a pro or con taking sides, just, "What happens if..." kind of stuff?
Edited to say, Donald Duck for president!
I think it's okay if it's related to Apple (e.g. What would happen to Apple's plant in case of war, i.e. how safe is the location etc - but the discussion should stay in that and not move to the actual war). However, posts that are only political (e.g. all these how Israel doesn't follow the human rights etc.) are not tolerated.
All the smart Russians have already moved to Israel (possibly the first time in history that people have pretended to be Jewish to escape persecution).
The immediate concern isn't so much Iran testing a nuke as Israel deciding that they have a limited window to hit Iran before Iran's nuclear program becomes so advanced that Israel won't be able to stop it. The US really doesn't want Israel hitting Iran and Israel knows that there will be a huge price if they do, but let's suppose that this would actually happen. Then what?
Iran has very limited direct means of striking Israel. What they can do is they can get Hezbollah to create chaos in the north of Israel. If that happens, Israel will strike Iran from the ground and from the air and Hezbollah will launch a ton of rockets at Israeli cities and possibly strike Israeli or Jewish targets abroad. There may also be major problems for the US and its allies in the Persian Gulf (mass demonstrations in Bahrain, violence in Iraq, possibly naval confrontations in the Gulf itself) but we'll set that aside. Ultimately what will happen is that there will be a limited period of violence between Israel and Hezbollah which will result in significant casualties - most of which will be in Lebanon. But this conflict won't last long - maybe a month - before (a) Hezbollah's capacity to hit Israeli population centers is taken out or (b) the international community stops the fighting. The US will prevent the international community from stopping the conflict for as long as it can so that Israel can do as much damage to Hezbollah's infrastructure as possible, but a conventional conflict won't go on very long. There is very likely to be an uprising in Gaza, and Hamas will use the opportunity to do what damage it can, but ultimately Hamas can't really do that much outside of making life in Ashkelon and Sderot miserable. The West Bank is likely to stay quiet. Fatah and the Palestinian Authority have too much to lose from full-scale conflict with Israel. That means that the kind of suicide bombing against Israeli cities that we saw during the second intifada (bus bombings, that sort of thing) probably won't happen.
So let's say that all of this happens. Worst comes to worst much of the country shuts down for a month and then things get back to normal. If you're building an R&D center its a problem but it isn't the kind of fear that makes you close up shop.
I live about 20 minutes outside of Herzliya, and I know for a fact it is the Silicon Valley of the Middle East. There are no bombings, terrorism... it's a very safe place to live.
I get the tech reasons for opening the R&D center. I'm just curious why Apple hasn't already established a presence in the country- there's no iTunes store or official Apple retail presence. The only ways to get your Apple products repaired in Israel are through authorized 3rd parties. Because of this, very very few people in Israel use Apple products.
Are they trying to get huge damage claims once this thing is swallowed by "random" attack from nearby communities?
Nothing against Israel but that is one damn weird place to build. And have been there twice. Nice place overall just not what you can call stable.
Nothing against Israel but that is one damn weird place to build. And have been there twice. Nice place overall just not what you can call stable.
a Very smart move, Apple will just achieve from that better knowledge. and I don't see really how politices and war is related here. Israel is way more safe than NYC in my opinion, and you don't always have to listen to what you hear on the news.
I wonder how many of those making politicized posts actually know that a fairly decent portion of technological achievements (including Intel's Core Duo and Sandy-Bridge architectures) was developed in Israel.
-that Israel is among the top countries in the world in areas of Natural sciences, Engineering, Medicine and Research
-that it has one of the highest percentages of scientists and of registered patents per capita in the world
-that it is consistently ranked as one of the most innovative countries in the world
-that its universities and research institutions are consistently ranked among the top in the world
I, personally, think it'll be enormously beneficial to Apple to have an R&D center there and I hope it'll help them innovate in microprocessor space.
-that Israel is among the top countries in the world in areas of Natural sciences, Engineering, Medicine and Research
-that it has one of the highest percentages of scientists and of registered patents per capita in the world
-that it is consistently ranked as one of the most innovative countries in the world
-that its universities and research institutions are consistently ranked among the top in the world
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I, personally, think it'll be enormously beneficial to Apple to have an R&D center there and I hope it'll help them innovate in microprocessor space.
A friend of mine who is a VP at IBM was freaking out a few years ago during the last lebanon conflict. Apparently 80% of their R&D capacity was shut down.
That being said, he also credits the israeli R&D facilities with nearly all recent tech innovations, and says that if a company wants to remain competitive, they have to bite the (mostly metaphorical) bullet, and take the risk. There is no more innovative place than Israel.
That being said, he also credits the israeli R&D facilities with nearly all recent tech innovations, and says that if a company wants to remain competitive, they have to bite the (mostly metaphorical) bullet, and take the risk. There is no more innovative place than Israel.
Good. Loss of habitat is the #1 most destructive force in our country.
Much rather they tear up someone else's countryside instead.
See? There's an upside to everything.
Much rather they tear up someone else's countryside instead.
See? There's an upside to everything.
Seriously? Why was this post voted down? Any of the downvoters care to shed some light?
First point: It's unlikely that total warfare will break out again. It's been proven that insurgent forces are able to tie Israel down much more ably with greater human cost. Jordan and Egypt have peace agreements, and Syria/Lebanon have their own troubles at the moment.
If Iran tests their bomb, we'll have more than just Apple to worry about. I put my faith into the Mossad, though...
That's true, but I was looking further than just the past 63 years. Instability is pretty much that region of the world's namesake. Look at the Arab riots in the early thirties, or the British mandates in the early 1900s, or the Ottoman Empire's total lack of control for a hundred years before that...
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Great move. Israel has a very deep talent pool and an excellent innovative track record in high tech (among other things). Good things will come of this.
Great move. Israel has a very deep talent pool and an excellent innovative track record in high tech (among other things). Good things will come of this.