In a way I find it reasonable...a new laptop battery is typically $99-$159 depending on the size/runtime/etc.
On the other hand, this is supposed to be a "pro" machine. Apple's insistence on small form factor really annoys techies like me...that I can't service anything myself and morevoer, I DON'T NEED A PRO MACHINE TO BE thinner and lighter and sexier every year which therefore almost necessitates Apple's crazy approach to assembly. Save that for the consumers. Give me power, flexibility, and the ability upgrade my own stuff.
In the Wintel world, I don't need putty knives and heatguns to pull apart my machines and melt glue and other ridiculous stuff like that. I buy a standard piece of equipment (drive, ram, cd burner, video card, whatever), grab a philips screwdriver, and install the thing in under 5 mins. Impossible in the Apple world for the past 10+ years unless you buy the Mac Pro desktop for $2500+.
Again, Apple should be treating Pro machines with Pros in mind...not folks with extra cash who want the most expensive laptop just because they can afford it.
Again, when you label something "pro" it should aim towards professionals. Period. Some companies like to toss the "pro" label around and it seems Apple has joined this group.
I like the Mac Pros style and features, but it's a Bic lighter at the end of the day in the eyes of a techie/pro.
WOW!!! My MBP >>> 56 cycles and 90% health.
You are off the mark and not the consumer this one is aimed at.
Pro is not always a marketing term...no matter what industry. As I mentioned, if Apple is going to just start calling things "pro", I have a different (less) respect for Apple now."PRO" is most of these days a marketing term.
What exactly are you stating?...that I have the ability at Checkout to customize my system? Sure...BUT THAT'S NOT MY POINT. My point is down the road...1-3 years later when you want to improve the system somehow with very simple upgrade options...but, no...can't do that with Mac Pro laptops. What you have is what you have. Throw it away (or pay some insane price to have some upgrade it for you).As somebody already posted you have plenty of options to tinker with the other MacBookPros.
I'm an Apple user. You're way off with this comment. Speak for yourself if you dislike an industry/market.And, as Apple users we do not care about the WINTEL world.
Is that verified?
As somebody wrote it's apr. 3 cents a day over the lifetime of the battery.
Put those 3 cents into a jar each day and you won't have to shell out 199 (plus tax) all at once.
What exactly are you stating?...that I have the ability at Checkout to customize my system? Sure...BUT THAT'S NOT MY POINT. My point is down the road...1-3 years later when you want to improve the system somehow with very simple upgrade options...but, no...can't do that with Mac Pro laptops.
My point is down the road...1-3 years later when you want to improve the system somehow with very simple upgrade options...but, no...can't do that with Mac Pro laptops. What you have is what you have.
just max the ram at BTO time, or bring the machine to an auth reseller if its possible to do the install then. yes, this costs you money -- but so what? if youre half the "pro" you think you are, then youre expensing this against your taxable income and its not a huge deal. if youre just calling yourself a "pro" then boo hoo.
but whatever you do, get it thru your head -- user-serviceable laptops are going to become a thing of the past. just like user-upgradable music players are. its simply more cost efficient to build a giant SSD device than a bunch of shelf-parts. deal w/ the future or be left behind.
but whatever you do, get it thru your head -- user-serviceable laptops are going to become a thing of the past. just like user-upgradable music players are. its simply more cost efficient to build a giant SSD device than a bunch of shelf-parts. deal w/ the future or be left behind.
The new battery is $200. The old battery was $130. Taking a dollar off the price is a psychological trick to fool people into thinking the price is lower than it actually is. As a reporter rounding up the price would be more instructive to you readers. Also, less annoying. Please don't participate in the scam.
Again and again you and others are not sticking to the topic...
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT PRO MACHINES HERE. NOT CONSUMER MACHINES.
Your point above is moot. Professionals, ESPECIALLY THOSE USING HIGH END COMPUTERS, don't deal with a Bic lighter approach...buy something, then need to enhance it months or years later and be told "sorry, you got what you got."
Consumers? Sure, the Bic lighter approach has been around for a long time with personal computers and Apple has capitalized on it quite well since 2001 and the introduction of the iMac.
And your comment about user-upgradeable music players is a complete joke. I have never, EVER seen a commercial music player that was upgradeable. And I owned mp3 players before the iPod existed. Yes, if you were a super guru you could BUILD YOUR OWN FROM SCRATCH...but there was never an mp3 player that you bought at a store, used it, then months later decided to upgrade the hard drive via any kind of mass-market, standards-driven, supply chain.
Amen brother. I love macs too, but non upgradable RAM is ridiculous in this type of machine. For comparison, the 15" Samsung Series 9 is thinner AND manages to have 2 standard RAM SODIMMs.
And your comment about user-upgradeable music players is a complete joke. I have never, EVER seen a commercial music player that was upgradeable. And I owned mp3 players before the iPod existed. Yes, if you were a super guru you could BUILD YOUR OWN FROM SCRATCH...but there was never an mp3 player that you bought at a store, used it, then months later decided to upgrade the hard drive via any kind of mass-market, standards-driven, supply chain.
Again and again you and others are not sticking to the topic...
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT PRO MACHINES HERE. NOT CONSUMER MACHINES.
Your point above is moot. Professionals, ESPECIALLY THOSE USING HIGH END COMPUTERS, don't deal with a Bic lighter approach...buy something, then need to enhance it months or years later and be told "sorry, you got what you got."
Consumers? Sure, the Bic lighter approach has been around for a long time with personal computers and Apple has capitalized on it quite well since 2001 and the introduction of the iMac.
And your comment about user-upgradeable music players is a complete joke. I have never, EVER seen a commercial music player that was upgradeable. And I owned mp3 players before the iPod existed. Yes, if you were a super guru you could BUILD YOUR OWN FROM SCRATCH...but there was never an mp3 player that you bought at a store, used it, then months later decided to upgrade the hard drive via any kind of mass-market, standards-driven, supply chain.
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WE ARE TALKING ABOUT PRO MACHINES HERE. NOT CONSUMER MACHINES
Apple do seem to be quite generous with their battery replacement however. On my 09 MBP it had the service battery warning at about 700 cycles, they said that it was high and they would not replace it at first, but after speaking to apple care the man said it was within a 1000 cycles so replaced it free of charge within an hour![]()
What exactly are you stating?...that I have the ability at Checkout to customize my system? Sure...BUT THAT'S NOT MY POINT. My point is down the road...1-3 years later when you want to improve the system somehow with very simple upgrade options...but, no...can't do that with Mac Pro laptops. What you have is what you have. Throw it away (or pay some insane price to have some upgrade it for you).
I'm an Apple user. You're way off with this comment. Speak for yourself if you dislike an industry/market.
It certainly looks like less value for money. It is a bit cheaper, but with a tiny 128 GB hard drive, slow and dual core processor, 1600 x 900 display, tiny battery, inferior OS, nowhere near the MBPR. Between the 13" MBA (£300 less with identical hardware except the slightly smaller screen) and the Retina MBP (£400 more for hugely superior hardware), the Samsung isn't worth the money.
And even though it is not upgradeable, there have been plenty of people upgrading various iPods with bigger hard drives, and posting here about it. Just like in a year's time you'll see people upgrading the non-upgradeable SSDs in their retina MBPs.
Thunderhawks said:MacBook Pros are LAPTOPS and despite their power are not meant to be taken apart to swap out vital components and just keep the outer shell.
Users who open computers for other reasons than memory upgrades and hard drive replacements are not the target group Apple markets to.
Apple did it just to be dicks to the 1% of us who like to tinker, plain and simple.