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Retina on old style Macbook Pro

I wish they had given the option of retina display on the unibody MBP as well! Hopefully that will be an option in the future!
 
I'm at 652 cycles at 91% health on my Mid-09 15" MBP. I can see myself going with this battery for another 3-4 years easily if it keeps degrading at this slow rate. 1200-1300 cycles at 75% health is good enough for me for a 6-7 year old MBP.

My mid-09 MBP is at 79% health with 570 cycles.
 
I wish they had given the option of retina display on the unibody MBP as well! Hopefully that will be an option in the future!

That is something I would be interested in, but I suspect that Apple probably have not upgraded the graphics to support it. :)
 
Why would they give you a new motherboard if your battery is damaged? What kind of nonsense is that. Changing the motherboard wouldn't even solve the battery issue. Apple will just swap out the battery and put a new one in. It's only glue people. My gosh...
Yes I have also same question.:)
 
Battery Life

Does anyone know if it's good or bad to leave the computer plugged in for a long time/overnight even if the battery is fully charged? Also is it better to discharge the battery in full before charging again. I called Apple twice on this and one specialist told me to leave it plugged in as much as I could and the other said it's better to leave it unplugged.
 
This thread is funny. Love how all the down voters for those who think the price isn't bad went crazy; but by the time it was 3 or 4 pages in, the same responses are fine and get up votes. I think I must've answered this one too early.
 
Does anyone know if it's good or bad to leave the computer plugged in for a long time/overnight even if the battery is fully charged? Also is it better to discharge the battery in full before charging again. I called Apple twice on this and one specialist told me to leave it plugged in as much as I could and the other said it's better to leave it unplugged.

You can leave the computer plugged in all the time, except that the battery should be completely discharged about once a month.
 
Does anyone know if it's good or bad to leave the computer plugged in for a long time/overnight even if the battery is fully charged? Also is it better to discharge the battery in full before charging again. I called Apple twice on this and one specialist told me to leave it plugged in as much as I could and the other said it's better to leave it unplugged.

All this is explained in the link on the first page
 
Does anyone know if it's good or bad to leave the computer plugged in for a long time/overnight even if the battery is fully charged? Also is it better to discharge the battery in full before charging again. I called Apple twice on this and one specialist told me to leave it plugged in as much as I could and the other said it's better to leave it unplugged.


Google search took 2 seconds:
http://www.apple.com/batteries/notebooks.html
 
It seems you and I have differing opinions on reasonable prices. £159 for a damn battery is daylight robbery.
I'm sure if it were left to the aftermarket some various products (which may or may not be trustworthy) would probably start cropping up at half that price. Some which would almost certainly be a problem would crop up at a third of that price. I'm sure there's a little bit of a markup in there for Apple (though it will be off-set in small part by the labor of installation).

We see differently on this, perhaps, because I'm happy with design trade-offs on this laptop that you may not be happy with. I don't mind an internal battery and I don't mind the potential possibility of paying about $100 more, down the road, to replace the battery than I would have in an alternative scenario. Additionally, if $100 extra for this potential repair is an end of the world scenario for someone they shouldn't be buying this product.
 
$200 / £160 seems on the pricey side to me, but the rMBP is bleeding edge and Apple will make you pay through the nose for the privilege of having it. Lets face it, the price of entry for the rMBP makes most people's eyes water anyway so it's not really a surprise that anything connected with it follows suit.

I suspect newer iterations will have a more elegant servicing solution than a glued in battery, but I'd be amazed if Apple lower their price for replacement.

Ya' pays ya' money, ya' takes ya' choice.
 
$200 / £160 seems on the pricey side to me, but the rMBP is bleeding edge and Apple will make you pay through the nose for the privilege of having it. Lets face it, the price of entry for the rMBP makes most people's eyes water anyway so it's not really a surprise that anything connected with it follows suit.

I suspect newer iterations will have a more elegant servicing solution than a glued in battery, but I'd be amazed if Apple lower their price for replacement.

Ya' pays ya' money, ya' takes ya' choice.

True enough. The thing that bothers me most is having to ship the computer in for what should, regardless of price, be a simple battery replacement, but it is what it is.
 
True enough. The thing that bothers me most is having to ship the computer in for what should, regardless of price, be a simple battery replacement, but it is what it is.

I imagine that will be because of the glue.

*Glue* for a part that is probably the most likely to need replacement during the life of the machine. It's not an elegant solution, and it's very un-apple.
 
I imagine that will be because of the glue.

*Glue* for a part that is probably the most likely to need replacement during the life of the machine. It's not an elegant solution, and it's very un-apple.

Lol. It's not just glue that you think of.
Industrial adhesives, like this, are used in more places than you can imagine. People really need to get over this and understand what the product really is. Un-Apple like? Seriously? It's not some sticky stuff that you might remember using in school.
 
Lol. It's not just glue that you think of.
Industrial adhesives, like this, are used in more places than you can imagine. People really need to get over this and understand what the product really is. Un-Apple like? Seriously? It's not some sticky stuff that you might remember using in school.

I think you are overlooking the point, which is simply that you should not have to ship a computer off just to have the battery replaced.

I don't think anyone intimated that the "glue" was the stuff your kiddies might use in kindergarten. You would think that a team of reasonably competent engineers could have come up with a better solution. After all, it is no great surprise that a laptop will need its battery replaced in the ordinary course of events.
 
Not surprising after seeing the insides! They'll have to do some crazy stuff to un-glue it!

At least their battery life estimates (for me at least) are better than what they claim, my mid-2010 MBP has been through 818 cycles and is at 90% health.

I'm at 652 cycles at 91% health on my Mid-09 15" MBP. I can see myself going with this battery for another 3-4 years easily if it keeps degrading at this slow rate. 1200-1300 cycles at 75% health is good enough for me for a 6-7 year old MBP.

My mid-09 MBP is at 79% health with 570 cycles.

1221 Cycles on MBP Mid 2009 60% Health

You all seem lucky to me.
My early '09 MBP's battery fried after 250 cycles.
If i unplugged it, it would work for 5-30 minutes, get super hot and surprise shutdown with a disconcerting pop.

New battery immediately fixed it. Happened right after un-purchased Applecare would have expired anyway.

I'd fully drain/charge while off at least once a month too.

Hmm, perhaps I should Applecare the retina...
 
You all seem lucky to me.
My early '09 MBP's battery fried after 250 cycles.
If i unplugged it, it would work for 5-30 minutes, get super hot and surprise shutdown with a disconcerting pop.

New battery immediately fixed it. Happened right after un-purchased Applecare would have expired anyway.

I'd fully drain/charge while off at least once a month too.

Hmm, perhaps I should Applecare the retina...

woah, thats strange. my mid 2009 mbp is at 89% after 300ish cycles and still lasts about 4,5h. thats 90 mins longer than my old vaio did on day 1 ;)
 
woah, thats strange. my mid 2009 mbp is at 89% after 300ish cycles and still lasts about 4,5h. thats 90 mins longer than my old vaio did on day 1 ;)

My new battery lasts about 4. My old battery was constantly plugged into my Cinema Display, and pretty much always had the 94/9600 running (set on peak performance). rMBP can handle my abuse a little better.
 
I think you are overlooking the point, which is simply that you should not have to ship a computer off just to have the battery replaced.

There's no "should" or "should not" here. This particular product requires this particular service event, and it's part of the trade-off for the design choices that provided other benefits that probably convinced you to buy this particular machine.

You see this with automobiles-- some require specific servicing, and often premium cars require premium service. Why not computers?
 
There's no "should" or "should not" here. This particular product requires this particular service event, and it's part of the trade-off for the design choices that provided other benefits that probably convinced you to buy this particular machine.

You see this with automobiles-- some require specific servicing, and often premium cars require premium service. Why not computers?

No! I have to run the BS flag up on that. You act as if it is normal and natural in the ordinary course of events to lose the use of your computer and put it at risk of loss or damage simply to have the battery replaced. That is a symptom of bad design and people, apparently you among them, who will make any excuse, no matter how irrational to justify such decisions. You give fanbois a bad name.
 
I say BS.

Do you know how much time it takes to get everything out of the Top case/Unibody to actually replace it with a new battery, it will take hours.
You even have to get the display of.
My guess is that the battery is glued with hot glue, they will simply heat it up to lets say 60-70 degrees celsius and will remove the battery and glue in a new one.
If they have to replace the whole top case they would have to do way to much work, if they just replace it with all things inside the serial number would also be different since it is embedded in the motherboard.
They could discharge the battery first(to a hard 0%), Lithium Ion still holds a certain charge even when the computer says it's 0%, it gets cut of below a certain threshold/voltage (3.3 Volt) because if Lithium Ion goes below that threshold it will be broken.
Also the top case/unibody is made of aluminium and too expensive to just replace.

No BS. If you were an Apple tech or even asked a genius, you would be told what I said. Battery and top case are NOT to be separated. The trackpad, keyboard, battery are all part of the top case. I'm sure when the defective top case is returned under warranty due to a battery or trackpad issue, they have special ways of separating it. It is just to dangerous for a tech or genius to attempt to remove the battery w/o puncturing it.
 
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