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I have a pair of bluetooth Jabra Revo on-ear headphones - and I will continue to stick with them and their 10 hour life, and impossible to lose form.
 
Now, an event that happens all the time if you take the subway (people bumping into you), or run outside can cost you $69. LOL. Biggest joke of a product Apple has come out in a long time.

But oh wait I know what people will tell me "don't bump into people" or "move to Montana" or "just don't seek human contact"
Or... some creative folks on Etsy will make a nifty little fabric connector between the two you can wear if you want. Problem solved. It's the same issue with a phone. Either take care of it, or put it in a case.
[doublepost=1481914548][/doublepost]Hey I have an idea... how about you take care of your stuff and don't lose it and stop blaming the manufacturer for your own lack of personal responsibility. If you can't keep track of things, then don't buy said things.
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You're wearing them wrong!
I would think these would fall out of your head about as often as standard EarPods. Maybe less so since you don't have the weight of a wire hanging or being pulled on. But you really don't know how they will work until you try them, right? Everyone's ear is different so I think making blanket statements that they will fall out and get lost is probably unfounded. The fact that they are white probably helps prevent them from getting lost too easily.
 
The fact that they are white probably helps prevent them from getting lost too easily.

Good point. I hadn't thought about that, which may actually be a reason Apple didn't offer them in black, or other colors initially -- to see how they fair in real world use on a mass scale.

Similarly, I used to leave my black iPhone 4 behind all the time, because it would blend in with black furniture and display screens, like the treadmill at the gym. I bought a white SE specifically because it is easier to see, and harder to leave behind.
 
I think Elon Musk is a pretty smart guy. He separates his businesses, but does leverage the technology and innovation across the board. I think his long term goal is to get to Mars. His solar tech at Solar City, battery tech at Tesla, and obviously rocket tech at SpaceX are all integral to this.

While he is at it, why not innovate on autonomy, ML, AI, and let engineers do their thing at Apple. If Apple were to fit his trend, any computer that can help get someone to Mars is probably pretty damn good.
Solar City and Tesla are merging. I'm not saying that we wouldn't get innovation under Elon Musk. I'm just saying that we wouldn't necessarily get an updated Mac Pro, Mac Mini or even iMac. It would be whatever he wanted to emphasize. If he wanted better Apple Watches, or really innovative watch bands, then that's what Apple would do.

Does Musk have a reputation for letting his engineers work autonomously on whatever they want?
 
Good point. I hadn't thought about that, which may actually be a reason Apple didn't offer them in black, or other colors initially -- to see how they fair in real world use on a mass scale.

Actually, I would take Airpods in black.

Better yet, I would accept skin toned. Slightly tanned.

Even better, invicible would be ideal. Only I would know if wearing them.

Ultimately, imbedded would be where I want to be.

Sign me up.

 
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Solar City and Tesla are merging. I'm not saying that we wouldn't get innovation under Elon Musk. I'm just saying that we wouldn't necessarily get an updated Mac Pro, Mac Mini or even iMac. It would be whatever he wanted to emphasize. If he wanted better Apple Watches, or really innovative watch bands, then that's what Apple would do.

Does Musk have a reputation for letting his engineers work autonomously on whatever they want?

Yeah I am aware they are merging. I am not sure what his reputation is with his engineers, but he does manage to be the founder of a lot of innovative things, that's for sure.

We already know what Tim Cook innovation looks like, so I am not sure we could do a whole lot worse. Tim Cook is about share price (which he is good at) but not about making great products. At least Elon Musk shoots for the stars, literally and figuratively.
 
Yeah I am aware they are merging. I am not sure what his reputation is with his engineers, but he does manage to be the founder of a lot of innovative things, that's for sure.

We already know what Tim Cook innovation looks like, so I am not sure we could do a whole lot worse. Tim Cook is about share price (which he is good at) but not about making great products. At least Elon Musk shoots for the stars, literally and figuratively.
Agreed, but if he were to shoot for the stars as Apple CEO, the commenterati would be asking why he couldn't manage to deliver an update to the Mac Pro in a reasonable time period. "Elon has to go!" would be the battle cry.
 
Agreed, but if he were to shoot for the stars as Apple CEO, the commenterati would be asking why he couldn't manage to deliver an update to the Mac Pro in a reasonable time period. "Elon has to go!" would be the battle cry.

This. People have no issues with Elon Musk sending people to Mars, but complain about Apple investing in self-driving cars?
 
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Probably because they'll do the same thing for both: give you a new one. Not much an Apple tech will be able to do in store to repair a broken AirPod, so if you bring one in they will probably give you a new one and just send the broken one off the Apple to be refurbished or something. Just speculating, though.

Agreed. They could try and fix it, but first they would have to send away for some special really tiny instruments.

 
Maybe you've been conditioned to think $159 is reasonable for a pair of headphones but the truth is Apple could sell the, for $99 if they wanted or even less. My point was about the replacement cost, but nevertheless the price is not appealing to the majority of consumers. This, along with Beats headphones, work best with Apple products so it's a shame they can't push it to these people.
Would I buy them? Yes. But a lot of people wouldn't, especially because losing one is $69 out your bank.

Again, I don't see the replacement cost as being unreasonable. Do you expect Apple to give you a replacement for free if *you* lose it? Or $10? Or what? What's reasonable in your mind? After all, Apple didn't lose the AirPod, you did.

I imagine AirPods will hit the $99 mark in the coming years. I don't know if Apple could sell for $99 today, and I suspect neither do you, unless of course you work for Apple and are privy to their financials?

$159 for state of the art wireless headphones seems reasonable. Lose one and replacement cost is less than half of what you paid. Seems perfectly reasonable to me.
 
I imagine AirPods will hit the $99 mark in the coming years. I don't know if Apple could sell for $99 today, and I suspect neither do you, unless of course you work for Apple and are privy to their financials?

When Airpods 2 comes out, probably.

I can see that Apple is positioned to dominate this market segment as part of the ecosystem.

OK for me.

I want to standardize this area & have a seamless experience.

Which buttons to push with a mix of BT headphones becomes nonsense.

I'm ready.

 
Now, an event that happens all the time if you take the subway (people bumping into you), or run outside can cost you $69. LOL. Biggest joke of a product Apple has come out in a long time.

But oh wait I know what people will tell me "don't bump into people" or "move to Montana" or "just don't seek human contact"

What on Earth are you going on about? If you're worried about people bumping into you and AirPods falling out, don't wear them in such an environment. Just because they don't work for YOU doesn't make them a joke. Sorry, the world doesn't revolve around YOU and YOUR needs. Apple doesn't design products for YOU alone. Grow up.

Unless you're a complete moron, you understand the potential cost involved in losing an AirPod, just like ANYTHING ELSE you might lose. At least Apple gives the option of replacing a single item instead of requiring you to buy a new pair, like you have to do with gloves, cufflinks, earrings, and any number of other things that are sold in pairs. Are those items all jokes too?
 
What on Earth are you going on about? If you're worried about people bumping into you and AirPods falling out, don't wear them in such an environment. Just because they don't work for YOU doesn't make them a joke. Sorry, the world doesn't revolve around YOU and YOUR needs. Apple doesn't design products for YOU alone. Grow up.

Unless you're a complete moron, you understand the potential cost involved in losing an AirPod, just like ANYTHING ELSE you might lose. At least Apple gives the option of replacing a single item instead of requiring you to buy a new pair, like you have to do with gloves, cufflinks, earrings, and any number of other things that are sold in pairs. Are those items all jokes too?

People create hypothetical situations to justify; why they don't want something when they can't afford or don't like something. It's just human nature to bash what they want but can't have.
 
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Now, an event that happens all the time if you take the subway (people bumping into you), or run outside can cost you $69. LOL. Biggest joke of a product Apple has come out in a long time.

But oh wait I know what people will tell me "don't bump into people" or "move to Montana" or "just don't seek human contact"

The fox who didn't get the grapes said they were sour too.

Look, if you don't want to get the Airpods, just don't get them. No need to come up with a dozen stupid reasons to justify your decision.
 
Sorry, the world doesn't revolve around YOU and YOUR needs. Apple doesn't design products for YOU alone.

True enough. But look at it from the other way, Apple is making a product that only fits some people, with no way of adjusting it for people who have the wrong size/shape ears. All other earbuds I know of come with different sized tips to help people find a right fit. With AirPods, if they don't fit your ears, you are plain out of luck, you have to go buy something else. So by not including a way to adjust the fit of the AirPods, Apple is limiting their market size.
 
True enough. But look at it from the other way, Apple is making a product that only fits some people, with no way of adjusting it for people who have the wrong size/shape ears. All other earbuds I know of come with different sized tips to help people find a right fit. With AirPods, if they don't fit your ears, you are plain out of luck, you have to go buy something else. So by not including a way to adjust the fit of the AirPods, Apple is limiting their market size.

Since when has Apple ever cared about limiting their market size? If they had done that, they would have never released the iPhone 7 without a headphone jack.
 
Since when has Apple ever cared about limiting their market size? If they had done that, they would have never released the iPhone 7 without a headphone jack.

Lack of headphone jack feels like the wrong analogy. A better analogy, in my mind, is, they make MacBooks in 13 and 15 inches, iMacs in 24 and 27 inches, iPhones in two sizes, the Apple Watch in two sizes, and the iPad is now in 3 sizes. But the AirPod is only one size. Why?
 
Lack of headphone jack feels like the wrong analogy. A better analogy, in my mind, is, they make MacBooks in 13 and 15 inches, iMacs in 24 and 27 inches, iPhones in two sizes, the Apple Watch in two sizes, and the iPad is now in 3 sizes. But the AirPod is only one size. Why?
Because they came up with a shape that fits most ears?

It is a pretty unique shape.
 
You're right. THere is no incentive to repair them if you can get a new one for the same price.

I think it's more that the airpods will be impossible to repair. At least, for the effort involved, it may well be easier to just give you a replacement and call it a day.
 
Again, I don't see the replacement cost as being unreasonable. Do you expect Apple to give you a replacement for free if *you* lose it? Or $10? Or what? What's reasonable in your mind? After all, Apple didn't lose the AirPod, you did.

I imagine AirPods will hit the $99 mark in the coming years. I don't know if Apple could sell for $99 today, and I suspect neither do you, unless of course you work for Apple and are privy to their financials?

$159 for state of the art wireless headphones seems reasonable. Lose one and replacement cost is less than half of what you paid. Seems perfectly reasonable to me.
Once again, did you even read what I said?!
I wasn't complaining about the replacement cost, that is perfectly fine considering the price. My probalem was with the original price.
Having said that, the replacement cost could go down since the case, other AirPod, and lightning cable are not included but cost extra to replace.
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Same price for repair vs lost? Looks like they couldn't be bothered to think about this pricing at all.
They wouldn't be repaired, they would be replaced.
 
Lack of headphone jack feels like the wrong analogy. A better analogy, in my mind, is, they make MacBooks in 13 and 15 inches, iMacs in 24 and 27 inches, iPhones in two sizes, the Apple Watch in two sizes, and the iPad is now in 3 sizes. But the AirPod is only one size. Why?

My point is simply that Apple has not traditionally cared about market share. If they did they would have stopped making Macs of any size years ago.

As for the why, I'd say quite simply that it's a new product, and they're looking at how it sells and who buys it and why it may be returned before they make changes. The iPhone, the iPad and the MacBook, have all launched in just one size, even as the MacBook has added multiple colors. The EarPods always came in one size as essentially a free product. They then added the In-Ear Headphones which solve the one size fits all problem. Perhaps that will be he same strategy with the AirPods as well. Also, would size necessarily change the way the AirPods fit? And what do they do, smaller, or larger, or both? No matter what they do, they're going to leave someone out. Then there's the idea that the AirPods would have to be designed for the smallest size possible for the technology inside, just as the Apple Watch must be. The larger AirPods would need to be re-engineered for consistency of sound, even if they may or may not hold a larger battery. Would they charge different prices for the larger ones as they do for the Apple Watch, or not? Personally, I would think the size of the AirPods would be less of a factor than design. A larger or smaller airpod might not offer a snugger fit, but one that doesn't sit as deep, or securely, since every ear is different.
 
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