Well, you are wrong.
I have a Tesla and have no problem crossing all Europe with it (don't know if this qualifies as long distance for you).
It is the most practical vehicle I have ever owned in all aspects.
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I have a Tesla and have no problem crossing all Europe with it (don't know if this qualifies as long distance for you).
It is the most practical vehicle I have ever owned in all aspects.
Ford owns 11.4% of Rivian, but they're number 3 owner, number 2 is Abdul Latif Jameel at 12.7%, number 1 is Amazon at 18.1%.
Development and production costs on EV's are much cheaper than a complex, piston-driven engine. I have a feeling we are about to enter a bubble for EV manufacturer's, subject to burst in about 10-15 years.
They don't need to sell a lot of car, just a sufficient amount with a reasonable margin. There is a big market for $100k+ cars. If not brands as Ferrari, Maserati, Lamborghini, McLaren, Bentley, Rolls Royce, Aston Martin, Porsche and a large portfolio of BMW, Mercedes, Audi, Cadillac, etc wouldn't even exist. You can even spec VW Golf for $50k+ now days so $100k is not far from reach for many, and we should also factor the willingness of many people to get in a lot of debt just to own the latest and greatest product from Apple. At $100k, these cars will sell as hot cakes.
It's really hard to turn the car over to plug it in for charging.
100k is out of reach for anyone who’s not in the top 1%.
You want to sell a car that appeals to everyone, you price it between £30k-£40k.
A native Norwegian can feel free to correct me on the below:
Up until recently the Norwegian government imposed a 25% VAT rate on cars, but it's zero for electric vehicles. I believe there was also grants available but haven't done the research on that but basically it's a no brainer to get electric cars in that part of the world thanks to tax incentives. This is about to change though as a news article this year suggests that a sliding scale of VAT for cars from around 49k Euros will come in next year. So if your car is significantly more than that soft cap you pay more tax.
This is unlike the UK system which imposes a hard cap - VAT applies to all cars and above £40k you pay an additional expensive car surcharge since 2017. So if the list price of your car is above that figure you pay an annual vehicle excise duty (road tax in other words) for up to the first 6 years of the cars life. The problem is with the runaway inflation more and more 'ordinary' cars are going over that price line especially since the electric grants were all cancelled recently and there was also a zero road tax band for low emission cars such as electric cars and that's going away too.
Incentives are welcome but I’m no fan of them as they distort the market. But that was besides the point, the person I replied to insinuated that EV is no good in cold climates. And sure the battery is not as efficient but it’s still plentiful and sufficient.
Range anxiety especially in winter will be an issue in colder climes but once you can get over 200-300 miles on a full charge in winter I think that would answer a lot of people’s issues. The downside is battery tech isn’t solving this, it’s just bigger and costlier batteries that’s getting people the range they want.
And price is important as Norwegians we’re apparently saving loads by going electric vehicle so I guess big batteries will be a thing for them.
Battery Tech needs to improve, if you live in an Apartment charging is an issues, range is an issue, at this moment I would go Hybrid over all EV but I have a few years before I need to think about it
Just needs good government policy, landlords, committees, the battery tech isn't the issue. Not dealing with providing charging points is where the issue is if you live in an apartment block. Plenty of examples from around the world where governments, developers, residents are easily dealing with the perceived issue. It really doesn't have to be an issue...And range, here we go again, poronkusema
Average EV prices will definitely need to come down close(r) to ICE levels. Government incentives will continue to help for a while but won't last forever.
It's starting to solve it to some degree. For example, the EPA rated range of the current Model S with a 100 kWh battery is over 20% longer (405 miles) than the range of Model S with a 100 kWh battery five years ago (335 miles).
Why? This will be out of the price range of most people.
Apple should just focus on getting CarKey and the updated CarPlay they showed off earlier this year into existing car lines.
Apple should just focus on getting CarKey and the updated CarPlay they showed off earlier this year into existing car lines.
Car will block its user in retaliationBut will the Apple Car allow me to block trackers?
Don't know anything about the Model S but don't could the car have become lighter in those 5 years? Does a more power efficient SoC help with energy conservation? What about careful choice in spec? Certain optional extras (eg 4 wheel drive) might reduce range due to weight - a lot to think about there.
As American advertising is fond of saying: "Your mileage may vary."
Imagine if Apple were thinking about an Aluminium space frame like Audi have done with various models of car in the past to save weight? Obviously the downside of that is then potential accident repair costs but it's notable that a heavy car impacts range (and performance). And due to the battery an EV is usually heavier than it looks.
And that is why you continue to wear a N95/FPP2 mask while using public transport.
The curb weight of the current Model S is 4,561 lbs. which I believe may be ariund 175 lbs. lighter than a composable Model S in 2017.
Absolutely. Various factors can affect range just as various factors can affect MPG.