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Electric cars are already more significant than hybrids or diesels and are rapidly approaching the point where they overtake gas powered cars - already 1 in 6 cars sold in October 2022 were electric.

In September 2022, the world's top selling vehicles (electrics in bold) were:

1. Tesla Model Y (113K sales)
2. Toyota Corolla (93K)
3. Toyota RAV4 (72K)
4. Tesla Model 3 (69K)
5. Ford F-Series (61K)*
6. Toyota Camry (54K)
7. Honda CRV (49K)
8. Chevy Silverado (48K)
9. BYD Song (46K)
10. RAM Pick Up (45K)

* Ford just started selling an electric version, the Lightning. Monthly sales so far are 2500. They also have an electric Mustang, the Mach-E, which accounts for 2/3s of all Mustang sales.

That's kind of misleading as there are far more ICE choices (which spreads sales over many more different makes/models) than EV choices. Automakers are definitely moving more and more towards EVs but the vast majority of new vehicle sales right now are still ICE.
 
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I really do not believe that electric cars will be useful for long range driving with their limited charge and range. if we build new power plants to generate the power for charging and replace and expand the electrical grid and rethink using nuclear for power generation, I would still not use an electric car. the time it takes to recharge makes long distance travel impractical. in the really cold climate of the northern states and Canada along with the flooding and storms of the southern and coastal states, they really are not practical at all. at 100K starting price you have eliminated over 90% of the population so this is a niche product that will cost billions to attempt to make it practical to a small extent. (someone had to say this)
 
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Apple is so far from releasing a car, that these rumors are beyond ridiculous. They don't even have prototype, let alone factories, service centers, trained employees or any experience or know-how for manufacturing something as big and as different as a complete vehicle. Even if Apple take over an existing car OEM, it will take them 10 years at least to deliver first units.
I agree. In fact, I am having trouble believing any of the hype. Any time a company steps this far outside of their realm of competence, it is usually a disaster. Corporate history is full of examples of successful companies that see the need to 'expand' beyond their core products, and usually (read "almost always") totally destroy then abandon their expensive purchase or merger. (Note: not talking about Google - that is a given with them). Apple has as much rational need to make a car as a submarine.
 
if we build new power plants to generate the power for charging and replace and expand the electrical grid and rethink using nuclear for power generation, I would still not use an electric car.
Nuclear power is not cost effective. The reactors are too expensive to build relative to the amount of energy they produce. Building out the grid = renewables. And you'll also have improved hydrogen fuel cell technology in the future.
 
I really do not believe that electric cars will be useful for long range driving with their limited charge and range. if we build new power plants to generate the power for charging and replace and expand the electrical grid and rethink using nuclear for power generation, I would still not use an electric car. the time it takes to recharge makes long distance travel impractical. in the really cold climate of the northern states and Canada along with the flooding and storms of the southern and coastal states, they really are not practical at all. at 100K starting price you have eliminated over 90% of the population so this is a niche product that will cost billions to attempt to make it practical to a small extent. (someone had to say this)
Long distance, impractical, definitely. If for anything else but not enough chargers, but you're right about the grid. A hybrid works better for long distance.

Commute, exceedingly practical, especially if you live in an area with cheap electricity.
 
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I have a conspiracy theory that the automotive people wanted Tesla to put out the first all-electric vehicles to see how us, the common people, would take to it and if it was successful then everyone else would take to it
I don't think that's a conspiracy theory. Other automotive companies didn't have much reason to invest in electric at the time. They were doing fine with what they were offering. So they sat back and watched how it worked out.

Happens all the time in countless industries. You can bet other companies watch how tech companies new product categories perform before making the investment themselves. Heck, Apple has done that countless times and still does. Let someone else front the money to test if there's really a market there before putting their own money into such development.
 
I really do not believe that electric cars will be useful for long range driving with their limited charge and range.
You talk about believe, some of us talk from experience. This summer holiday we've done 4K Km across 9 countries in our EV. No problems at all. What matters in such case more than the charge/range of the vehicle is the unit of measure that is Poronkusema.


if we build new power plants to generate the power for charging and replace and expand the electrical grid and rethink using nuclear for power generation, I would still not use an electric car. the time it takes to recharge makes long distance travel impractical.
Another word for that; codswallop. By the time you've dealt with poronkusema it's already fully charged.

Its a typical theoretical argument put up by people who claim they drive regularly 1000 miles per day whilst towing a 3.5 tonne boat through snow and hills; non-stop.
in the really cold climate of the northern states and Canada along with the flooding and storms of the southern and coastal states, they really are not practical at all.
Funny that as some of the greatest adoption rates are in Norway, Sweden and Finland. The climate is clearly not the problem, so what is so different there? Is it perhaps lack of government investment and people willingness?
at 100K starting price you have eliminated over 90% of the population so this is a niche product that will cost billions to attempt to make it practical to a small extent. (someone had to say this)
Nearly all new technologies and innovation commences at the top end of the market, but actually nowadays $100K really isn't the top end of the market. It truly isn't that special or unique segment.
 
Say what you want about the price, but this thing is going to have – trusting Apple – a multitude of smaller features that are of the "of course! (why hasn't anyone designed that feature this way before)" type.

I can't wait.

Even if I can't afford one (initially?), the knock-on / disruptive effects this product will have on the industry as a whole will improve travel for a great many people, myself included.
There will be no disruption, Apple isn't making a car 🙄
 
So generous of Apple to lower the price from 120 000$ to 100 000$ so us peasants can afford it. At this price point, it's definitely a bargain
When did Apple ever announce a price much less a car? Stop being disappointed for something that isn't real....
 
Turn the Canoo into a giant apple and we'll talk.
Another fan of The Busy World of Richard Scarry, eh? Say no more...
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glad no pics of corny prototypes have surfaced yet. Mixed blessings. Keep it under wraps until 2026
and dont let an aapl car engineer accidentaly leave it a bar parking lot
 
Like many of you has already said: that amount of money is crazy.

But, as I always say: there's people for anything, especially with cash.

A vehicle with a MASSIVE Apple logo on the front, on the back, and only a 'revolutionary' curve design without major new features will sell anyway - like the original iPhone.

Advertising on wheels.
 
I agree. In fact, I am having trouble believing any of the hype. Any time a company steps this far outside of their realm of competence, it is usually a disaster. Corporate history is full of examples of successful companies that see the need to 'expand' beyond their core products, and usually (read "almost always") totally destroy then abandon their expensive purchase or merger. (Note: not talking about Google - that is a given with them). Apple has as much rational need to make a car as a submarine.

Like Apple, a computer company, when went for the Music market, 20 years ago.

Or Apple, a music company (that also was selling computers at that time as a secondary business), when went for the phone market, 15 years ago.
 
Just can't get down with electric cars.

Now, if Apple could throw something together with a 700hp V8, then we could talk...
 
'a price point under $100,000 to make the car appeal to a wider range of customers' - are you kidding me? There are customers on the fence for 20K difference on a 100K plus car?? Pfff I should stop being poor I guess...
 
Decisions, decisions. Buy 2 fully-loaded current Mac Pros? Or save the $ and wait for one Apple Car?
 
If past behavior is any indication, the $100k version will have only 8Gb of memory and a passenger-side door that can only be opened from the outside. An actually usable configuration will be at least $150k…plus truly committed owners will also want the $750 car washing/drying chamois.

;-)
Add another zero to the chamois and I think you'll be spot on with pricing. :)
 
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For $100,000 I can take public transport every day for 100+ years.

Don’t need to pay for upgrades on top.

Don’t need to pay for years insurance on top.

Don’t need to pay for repairs on top.

Don’t need to worry about traffic accidents.

Can sit on many seats.

Meet lots of interesting strangers.

Bump into friends.
 
For $100,000 I can take public transport every day for 100+ years.

Don’t need to pay for upgrades on top.

Don’t need to pay for years insurance on top.

Don’t need to pay for repairs on top.

Don’t need to worry about traffic accidents.

Can sit on many seats.

Meet lots of interesting strangers.

Bump into friends.

But you can catch COVID and die in a 5-min trip.
 
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