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Apple to Eliminate Home Button in 2017 iPhone

I'll be ecstatic when Ive is gone and we can get back to functional design. Minimalist design sucks and makes devices harder to use ...
 
havokk said:
I'll be ecstatic when Ive is gone and we can get back to functional design. Minimalist design sucks and makes devices harder to use ...
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You've got no idea about product design, do you? Although I doubt if Ive actually gets involved with the design process these days.
 
Sure I do but you obviously don't ... it can go along with all the other things that you have no idea about ... such as people having differences of opinion ... we'll start the list for you.
 
havokk said:
Sure I do but you obviously don't ... it can go along with all the other things that you have no idea about ... such as people having differences of opinion ... we'll start the list for you.
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If you did, you'd know why the old design died the minute iPhone was released. Tech shouldn't be in your face. The basic principle of good design is that the user shouldn't even realise the tech is there.

Oh and it's design principles, not opinion. If you get a chance read the book "The Design of Everyday Thing" by Don Norman. That's what good system / product designers read as their staples.
 
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akash.nu said:
You've got no idea about product design, do you? Although I doubt if Ive actually gets involved with the design process these days.
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Funny that you should say this: "You've got no idea about product design, do you?", and then follow it with a sentence which demonstrates how much YOU don't know about Apple's design team. Go and read Jony Ive's bio, and learn something.

Wow... sometimes...
 
pkginstall said:
Funny that you should say this: "You've got no idea about product design, do you?", and then follow it with a sentence which demonstrates how much YOU don't know about Apple's design team. Go and read Jony Ive's bio, and learn something.

Wow... sometimes...
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That biography was written before Ive's role change. Sometimes... Indeed.
 
akash.nu said:
That biography was written before Ive's role change. Sometimes... Indeed.
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If you think Ive has no say or input into designs, you're way off track. He's HEAD designer. The entirety of Apple's brand and design language is now built around his unparalleled talents and unique vision for aesthetics and form - that's not about to change anytime soon. You don't just hire a "replacement" for someone that incredibly valuable. Never make the assumption that Apple function like A.N. other company, because they don't, and any assumptions you've made about them are likely to be wrong.
 
pkginstall said:
If you think Ive has no say or input into designs, you're way off track. He's HEAD designer. The entirety of Apple's brand and design language is now built around his unparalleled talents and unique vision for aesthetics and form - that's not about to change anytime soon. You don't just hire a "replacement" for someone that incredibly valuable. Never make the assumption that Apple function like A.N. other company, because they don't, and any assumptions you've made about them are likely to be wrong.
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I've never said he doesn't have any input but knowing the size of Apple I don't think he gets involved in a lot of the day to day thing. Don't forget design is not a 1 man thing. He could be the head but a team of talented designers are working relentlessly for various sectors of the company, including both hardware and software and branding and everything else that's put out in front the public.
 
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akash.nu said:
I've never said he doesn't have any input but knowing the size of Apple I don't think he gets involved in a lot of the day to day thing. Don't forget design is not a 1 man thing. He could be the head but a team of talented designers are working relentlessly for various sectors of the company, including both hardware and software and branding and everything else that's put out in front the public.
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Okay.

Have a nice week :)
 
Neodym said:
It was grippier due to the comparably sharper edges.


With a thin phone, lovers of a thicker, more robust phone can add a suitable case to reach that goal. If a phone is already thick out of the box, you can't simply take away slices if you prefer a thinner phone.


The backside is _not_ where the TouchID button should be. That placement is a makeshift solution, as it makes the use unintuitive by hiding the button from the user during normal operation.


Lots of options: Integrate sensors into the display (TFT display as camera has already been demonstrated in 2004 - sorry for non-English page, have no access to a translation website here), use the screen itself as speaker membrane as posted already in this thread). Get rid of thinking in _existing_ technologies: A few years ago, only very few people could probably imagine to feel a click without actually pressing a mechanic button. But it works very well in current trackpads.


Much like a virtual keyboard: When you need it, it occupies screen real estate. Otherwise, the space is available for other uses.


Would you prefer to stick with unwieldy bricks until technology is ready to make it credit card thin over night?


  • Because you can (afford it or have a respective contract with each-year hardware update).
  • Because your iP6 shattered or suffers from the touch screen problems that recently surfaced.
  • Because it'll be a pretty refined device with the toothing problems gone - opposed to a radical redesign with lots of chances for new problems.
  • Because you'll soon know what you'll get with the iP7 - but you won't know for a long time with next year's iPhone.
  • Because you want that improved camera.
  • Because you want that improved Ram.
  • Because you want that improved 256GB storage.
  • Because there could be other interesting features (like noise cancelling, faster CPU, faster Ram, USB3-speed syncing via Lightning, longer battery time ...).

Exactly because they'll have more than enough areas of renewal next year, it makes sense to not combine them all in one device, but better stretch them over more than one device generation where possible.


I would expect an additional feature: Raise-to-wake combined with AppleWatch-to-unlock at the same time. They'll have this functionality for Macs soon - why not also for the iPhone? I could imagine this to be a very comfortable feature.


Tech is not yet advanced enough to display content on pure plastic displays. If you refer to the cover glass: The surface friction on glass is significantly better than on plastic, thus giving a better user experience. Not to forget the higher scratch susceptibility of a plastic surface: Okay for pure body casing, but a bad idea for clear surfaces that are intended for display content.
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Ok - I totally got your point... But, the day has come and gone, and I'm not feeling the urge to upgrade to the #7. I can see why people would (yes - I get it), but there wasn't enough "wow" for me on this release.

I'm (perhaps idiotically) holding off until the 10-year model. That's all assuming they actually do something special with the 10-year model I'd imagine they would... But, they haven't done anything yet for the 10-year anniversary of the MacBook Pro line (2006 / Intel)... Yet...
 
freddiecable said:
I understand that they can hide the home button behind a screen but how do they do that with the camera?
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Transparent LCD displays already exist. They're used commonly in high tech storefront advertising displays. Basically the LCD clears for the camera when in use, and a virtual hole appears in the display. It should reassure people who have privacy concerns since it will be obvious when the camera is in use.
 
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penajmz said:
And we're stuck with this year's iPhone...
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The incredibly poor decision to use a buzzy, vibration centric Haptic button... is why myself and a rather large number of co-workers in our organization are avoiding iPhone 7.

If true, by ditching the Haptic button Apple's certainly making the right decision. It's refreshing to see they recognize their mistake.
 
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