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This decade will be Apple's decade of eliminating those pesky physical buttons and other analog features. Headphone jack this year, home button next year, then after that the implant route:

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An iPhone without a home button? Are the leaders at Apple using BlackBerry BB10 devices? Do they know it's better without a home button?

Apple should license a version of BB10 for it's next generation iPhone operating system. BB10 is the best in an IoT multi-tasking world.
And just like nokia, how is blackberry doing these days?
 
Yes, I use words for what their meaning. Words, numbers, symbols, have definitions, otherwise communication is impossible. Left is up, Yellow is U-turn, Hammer is water. "Investment" is neither a synonym nor slang for buying a consumer good in any sense of the word's meaning. The way you are using it is gobbly gook so I'm amused that you are upset at me for wanting to use it correctly.


First, I wasn't anywhere near "upset" with you. Let me help you out since you're having some trouble. Second, it's actually "gobbledygook". LOL

in·vest·ment
inˈves(t)mənt/
noun
noun: investment; plural noun: investments
  1. 1.
    the action or process of investing money for profit or material result.
    "a debate over private investment in road-building"
    synonyms: investing, speculation; More
    • a thing that is worth buying because it may be profitable or useful in the future.
      "a used car is rarely a good investment"
      synonyms: venture, speculation, risk, gamble; More
    • an act of devoting time, effort, or energy to a particular undertaking with the expectation of a worthwhile result.
      "the time spent in attending a one-day seminar is an investment in our professional futures"
      synonyms: contribution, surrender, loss, forfeiture, sacrifice
      "a substantial investment of time"
 
I got weirded out by not having a physical home button, but ever since jumping from the Samsung Galaxy s4 to the LG G4, I've gotten used to it. I'm sure iPHone users could do the same
 
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Is this why they eliminated the slide-to-unlock feature in iOS 10? "Conditioning" people to turn on/unlock the phone by simply putting your finger on the touch ID sensor?

Exactly. Just like the swipe right gesture to switch to previous app or bring up multitasking, raise to wake feature in iOS 10, & also eliminating the quick access to the camera from the bottom right corner on the lock screen. I def see a bezel less, no home button iPhone in the very near future.:D
 
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Side buttons to unlock sucks. My Lumia phone has that. I'm constantly accidentally triggering it as I lift it out of my pocket or even off a table. It's almost impossible to not bump the buttons when they're right where you would hold the phone. I've had my iPod Touch trigger touch things if it's facing the direction of my leg (sitting against it so ditching a home button to activate and having a spot on the screen instead might backfire too). Having a physical button recessed like the current home button works better than on the side, regardless. Putting a button at the top of the phone might work OK as it's not likely to get bumped picking it up or sitting in your pocket.
 
If they are going to get rid of the home button, might as well get rid of the earpiece speaker too.

Cameras and sensors can be embedded behind the screen. Add bone conduction to the phone (which Kyocera has already developed the tech for smartphones back in 2014) and there you have the Jony Ive's wet dream, a phone that's pure screen and yet symmetrical on both top and bottom (since there's nothing)

Hell... add Transfer Jet and Qi, you can have a phone with 0 opening and completely wireless
 
If Android can survive without a physical home button since the early days, why is it so important to iPhone owners? You enjoy cleaning and replacing your home button or turning on AssistiveTouch so much?

Apple should have at least copied double tap to wake. Nokia N9 from 2011 had it. LG copied it for the G2 in 2013 and marketed it as KnockOn. Several phones from Nokia, LG, HTC, Sony, Oppo, and Xiaomi phones have it.

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Raise to wake is only limited to the iPhones with the M9 co-processor. If you have an iPhone gen from 2014 or prior, tough luck for you. I still think double tap to wake/sleep is still better and faster. Since iOS lacks a back action or double tap to sleep, it doesn't prevent the wear and tear on the home and power button as much.

I started studying gesture swipes since 2013 because I hated pressing the home button to wake the screen on my HTC One. Eventually, it went from 100% responsive to 50% or lower after 18 months. Wakeup Touch Nexus helped alot and so did DynamicNotifications (or AcDisplay) to emulate Motorola's Active Display.

Since Note7 doesn't have 2x tap to wake, I will just go use Wakeup Touch Nexus. Easy to do 2x tap to sleep using Nova Prime, Smart Launcher 3, or All In One Gestures (status bar). With Android, you are only a Google, Play Store, or YouTube search away at finding a solution or viable alternative. Go on XDA forums and they will help out too.

Any capacitive home button for iPhone would be an exciting feature for me. I guess not for this year's. Don't worry, Apple fans. Apple will reward your patience and their procrastination by charging you all premium for features found on Android years ago.

Until then, go turn on this. Weeeeee!
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I agree with everything you said, but I disagree with raise to wake not reducing wear and tear.

First thing I did is set my auto lock to 39 seconds. This works for me. Not saying it's great for everyone but it has allowed me to stop pressing buttons drastically.

I've also changed, in accessibility, a setting that allows me to just rest my finger in the home button when raising. So I raise the phone with my finger resting in the buttons and it almost instantly unlocked. Love that feature.

In a given day I feel I've reduced my button presses by 50%. Doesn't mean it couldn't be implemented better though. And I'd support getting rid of the button entirely.
 
No home button. Hrm. Yeah implement touch ID in one piece. I can see that. It's already a glass button with the macbook haptic feedback of a click. I'm sure they'll implement that in the phone. Not a physical click but sensor click replicate a click for the home button.

I'll be curious how the ear speaker, camera, sensor would look like. or will that be just the same since it is really just 1 sheet of glass except the ear speaker cutout.
 
No home button. Hrm. Yeah implement touch ID in one piece. I can see that. It's already a glass button with the macbook haptic feedback of a click. I'm sure they'll implement that in the phone. Not a physical click but sensor click replicate a click for the home button.

I'll be curious how the ear speaker, camera, sensor would look like. or will that be just the same since it is really just 1 sheet of glass except the ear speaker cutout.

I'm not sure the ear speaker will need to be cut out. There's very effective technology that can localize sound via vibrations through a surface. Not having any cutouts could actually make the phone truly reversible too -- the virtual home button and speaker would be able to flip to either end, so it down't matter which way you picked up your phone, the home button would be where you expect it to be, as would the earpiece. That would be one sweet design right there.

The FaceTime camera and light sensors is really the only complication from an edge to edge screen top to bottom. They light sensors could probably be duplicated on each end, but it would require a thin strip along the top and bottom. The Camera would only be at one end or the other (it wouldn't really need to be at both), and could possibly fit in the same this strip, as otherwise, it would create a hole in the edge of your display -- unless the display itself imposed the virtual bezel, displaying only system level information around the embedded sensors and cameras.
 
Just so you know, Steve never "designed" anything.
Just so you know Ive himself called Steve "an exceptional designer". That probably explains who was the actual designer of Apple products and why they're so ugly now. Ive probably just polished Steve's drafts and ideas.

One thing most people don't know is that Steve Jobs is an exceptional designer.

Just so you know.
 
Just so you know Ive himself called Steve "an exceptional designer". That probably explains who was the actual designer of Apple products and why they're so ugly now. Ive probably just polished Steve's drafts and ideas.

One thing most people don't know is that Steve Jobs is an exceptional designer.

Just so you know.
Ive is the designer. Steve always came up with radical ideas.
 
Done on what? Show me please.
prototypes
http://www.extremetech.com/mobile/131145-motorola-mobile-display-into-a-speaker
http://www.electronicsweekly.com/ne...ux-labs-shows-haptic-display-speaker-2015-05/
cameras are trickier, but attempts/ideas have been made, one with alternating transparency with high enough rate so that camera captures motion while screen still looks like its not flickering, and one with gazillions of tiny cameras next to each pixel. with flexible/bendable screens, making a small part act as a speaker isn't an issue
 
Just so you know Ive himself called Steve "an exceptional designer". That probably explains who was the actual designer of Apple products and why they're so ugly now. Ive probably just polished Steve's drafts and ideas.

It's doubtful he meant that Jobs designed anything. We know from plenty of sources that he was not a designer or engineer or programmer.

What Jobs was exceptional at, was saying "NO!" to a design or implementation until it was changed to something he liked :)

That's what's missing from Apple these days. Someone to say "NO" to Ive and the rest.
 
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