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Sounds like you need a different phone then. See ya!

I always enjoy the hubris of people who think that "see ya" is an answer. It is the arrogance that typifies the stereotypes we all seem to complain about. Pardon me for suggesting one thin design doesn't suit everyone, Mr Ives.
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All because of the "hassle" of just snapping one of these tiny things on all of your old headphones? Seems like something we'll completely forget is there by February.

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Go see the other posts. This likely isn't any final product. Can you imagine Apple not centring the lightning tip? Me either.
 
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If Android can survive without a physical home button since the early days, why is it so important to iPhone owners? You enjoy cleaning and replacing your home button or turning on AssistiveTouch so much?

Apple should have at least copied double tap to wake. Nokia N9 from 2011 had it. LG copied it for the G2 in 2013 and marketed it as KnockOn. Several phones from Nokia, LG, HTC, Sony, Oppo, and Xiaomi phones have it.

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Raise to wake is only limited to the iPhones with the M9 co-processor. If you have an iPhone gen from 2014 or prior, tough luck for you. I still think double tap to wake/sleep is still better and faster. Since iOS lacks a back action or double tap to sleep, it doesn't prevent the wear and tear on the home and power button as much.

I started studying gesture swipes since 2013 because I hated pressing the home button to wake the screen on my HTC One. Eventually, it went from 100% responsive to 50% or lower after 18 months. Wakeup Touch Nexus helped alot and so did DynamicNotifications (or AcDisplay) to emulate Motorola's Active Display.

Since Note7 doesn't have 2x tap to wake, I will just go use Wakeup Touch Nexus. Easy to do 2x tap to sleep using Nova Prime, Smart Launcher 3, or All In One Gestures (status bar). With Android, you are only a Google, Play Store, or YouTube search away at finding a solution or viable alternative. Go on XDA forums and they will help out too.

Any capacitive home button for iPhone would be an exciting feature for me. I guess not for this year's. Don't worry, Apple fans. Apple will reward your patience and their procrastination by charging you all premium for features found on Android years ago.

Until then, go turn on this. Weeeeee!
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My iPhone 6 Plus occasionally fails to respond to my touch, but I've always thought the software/RAM was overloaded. Uh oh...

Good luck with your iPhone. I hope it all works out for you. Maybe that upgrade should get here sooner for you.
 
You guys are lost deep in the land of delusion and fables. This ain't EVER gonna happen - that'd be like removing the steering wheel from a (traditional) car, "just because". Errr, no, it's not gonna happen - the home button is KEY and pivotal to all actions on iPhone. You know what happens when you start listening to rumours, chinese whispers and hearsay... it means you've officially lost it.

Nope. Not gonna.
 
Do you also plan to start rumors today about the 2020 iPhone...
Wow - beginning rumors of 2017 iPhone before the iPhone7 even launches, is REALLY proving that NOTHING worthy is in the Apple Pipeline. Must be hard to run a rumor-site under such circumstance !
 
An iPhone without a home button? Are the leaders at Apple using BlackBerry BB10 devices? Do they know it's better without a home button?

Apple should license a version of BB10 for it's next generation iPhone operating system. BB10 is the best in an IoT multi-tasking world.
 
Why do we have to wait until next year to see an update to the screen? Other companies have been upgrading their screens for YEARS!!!!! Apple just now is figuring out that maybe this is why their sales have slumped! With them, its always one change a year and it drives consumers nuts.




The radically redesigned iPhone coming in 2017 will not feature a Home button, Bloomberg today confirmed in a wider report focusing on new mobile payment features coming to Japan.According to past rumors, the 2017 iPhone, which may be called the iPhone 8, will feature a complete design overhaul with an edge-to-edge flexible OLED display that does away with the top and bottom bezels where features like the Touch ID fingerprint sensor and front-facing camera are housed.

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Instead, the functionality of the Home button, including Touch ID, may be built directly into the display. Apple design chief Jony Ive is said to have wanted to build an iPhone that looks like a single sheet of glass for several years, and 2017, the year that marks the 10th anniversary of the iPhone, is when it will happen.

The iPhone display may also feature edges that are curved on both sides, similar to the Samsung Galaxy S7 edge, and it is rumored to have a glass body, moving away from the aluminum that's been used for iPhones since the iPhone 5. Other features that may be built into the 2017 iPhone include wireless charging, an enhanced Taptic engine, and new biometric capabilities like iris scanning or facial recognition.

Article Link: Apple to Eliminate Home Button in 2017 iPhone
 
Next to a non-removable battery and software updates beyond three years, a physical home button is another important component for Apple's planned obsolescence.
 
But wheres the any key?

:D

What key? The bezel-free phone can use a designated gesture as a substitution for the hardware key. There is a patent covering that: https://patentscope.wipo.int/search...p1nB?docId=US123276233&recNum=1&tab=Drawings#

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I guess the question now is whether we get the same screen sizes in a smaller physical body (no bezels), or a larger screen size with the same physical body size. I vote for smaller body. Been rocking the SE now for 2 month and absolutely love the size.

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Both. For instance, the current iPhone Plus user could just step down to the smaller body size to maintain the plus sizes screen. The current body accommodating 4.7" screen will be able to accommodate 5.5" screen or so.
 
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Umm no... if they were adding a second lighting port then maybe. With just a single port please show us how you will be able to charge and listen at the same time??

That new phone would come with a charge / sync cable obviously. USB on one end, lightning on the other end. Except at the other end, it has not just a lightning plug, but also a lightning port. In the cable. Alternatively, since it has more space, the lightning port could be integrated into the USB plug.
 
Umm no... if they were adding a second lighting port then maybe. With just a single port please show us how you will be able to charge and listen at the same time??
That new phone would come with a charge / sync cable obviously. USB on one end, lightning on the other end. Except at the other end, it has not just a lightning plug, but also a lightning port. In the cable. Alternatively, since it has more space, the lightning port could be integrated into the USB plug.

You mean like these?

I would have 5,000 posts by now if I responded to every idiotic post that claimed the headphones can't be used while charging. I mean seriously, is this just trolling? Or are these people really not capable of thinking beyond what's immediately before them?

This is all it would take -- reverse this and there's you're solution -- headphones plug right into the passthrough port on the power cable:

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Like this:

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Or this ...

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Fact: An iPhone 4 is physically 4.52 inch high and 2.24 inch wide, for a diagonal of 5.05 inches. An iPhone the size of an iPhone 4 where the whole front is usable as a display would have a 5.05 inch diagonal, substantially bigger than the iPhone 6. An iPhone 6 or 6s sized phone with full usable display would have a 6.05 or 6.95 diagonal. Now I don't want a bigger phone, but I'm all for a bigger screen. So having full glass front would be very useful.

You would still have a home button - just press hard on the location where the home button should be. Personally, I press harder on the home button than I would press on the screen. iPhone 6 can give haptic feedback. I hope that would be good enough to make it feel as if you had really pressed the home button. It will probably take five seconds practice so that when you want to press the home button you press hard so that it will not be recognised in the running app.

For the camera: I think the LCD component of a display showing white is actually transparent. It should be possible to hide the camera and microphone behind glass.

Yes please!
I want an iPhone without bezels, I'd buy the bigger model and enjoy a wider screen with almost the same height as current 4.7'' model.
Is 6.05 inch diagonal enough for you?
 
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These would all be improvements that I would like to have in an iPhone. That said, I'll likely just go with the 7, when it comes out and wait till the 8 is a generation or two old before hopping into one.
 
Ladies and gentleman, I present to you, the iPhone 8:

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An excellent idea. A would-be thief wouldn't even know whether it's an iPhone or just a bit of glass. Until you press your thumb on the virtual home button and the phone is unlocked. You could actually put a bit of glass in one pocket and an iPhone in the other, and a thief would be totally clueless.
 
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That new phone would come with a charge / sync cable obviously. USB on one end, lightning on the other end. Except at the other end, it has not just a lightning plug, but also a lightning port. In the cable. Alternatively, since it has more space, the lightning port could be integrated into the USB plug.

It is what they should have done with the MacBook power adapter (provide a pass through USB-C and a standard USB port) and they didn't so I'm doubting they will do that with the iPhone. Guess we will see in a couple of weeks.
 
It will look good without the button but physically it will be hard to know what part of the phone is up in the dark or in dim light. Right now, I just drag my thumb over the home button and I know the phone is upright. Otherwise you won't know until the phone's screen is on.

What is up and down? Grab the phone, hold it any way you like, and press your thumb at the bottom of the screen aout in the middle. It turns on and is the right way around. There could be two cheap front cameras. For the back camera, if you turn the back camera on while it's at the bottom of the screen, the image on the screen turns upside down so you turn your phone around. I can also feel the volume buttons on the side.
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Curved screens are already a very poor design and should have died with CRTs. ... Why do people equate curved with "innovation"?

Fully agree - I don't want a curved screen TV, I don't want a curved screen phone, and I don't want a phone with glass going around the edges. I want something around the edges that protects the screen from hitting concrete and cracking when the phone gets dropped. Or when it is just smacked into something. But a screen that covers the whole front, or as much as possible of the front, that would be really nice.
 
All because of the "hassle" of just snapping one of these tiny things on all of your old headphones? Seems like something we'll completely forget is there by February.

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I can't wait to spend an extra $30-$40 on a stupid dongle because Apple deemed the headphone jack unworthy of their wonderful product.

Ive's dream of a glass phone is unappealing to me. I'd much rather see a flexible OLED phone that I can stick in my back pocket and sit on without the slightest thought of damage, like a wallet. That would be the ultimate in practicality. A glass MOMA piece? I'll just slap a case on it anyways because it will be so delicate.
 
It is what they should have done with the MacBook power adapter (provide a pass through USB-C and a standard USB port) and they didn't so I'm doubting they will do that with the iPhone. Guess we will see in a couple of weeks.

For starters, Apple doesn't need to do it. They want you to use wireless. However they've provided the option for third parties to do it. One of the selling points for the rMB was its amazing battery life. So drawing attention to the need to power the MB while using a physical port couldn't be more opposite the intent of the product they offered.

As for removing the headphone jack, now there's a reason for Apple to do it if they provide Lightning earbuds as standard. On the other hand, they're also pushing wireless. So once again, third parties will likely be able to provide that functionality for the minority customer who needs that.

Apple may take a totally different approach themselves -- Beats headphones may have a Lightning pass through port for instance. Or they may include a charging brick with an added Lightning pass through port. But they don't have to promote the use of wired equipment, regardless if it's Lightning or not.
 
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