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In order to be affected by this, the "customer" must have an Apple Store nearby (that's all we're talking about). If so, I'm sure he can go to the Apple Store, and use one of THOSE machines to order the thing on apple.com.

My nearest Apple store is 103 miles away, I don't fancy driving for 2 hours to queue in a crowded store, fending off repeated attempts from staff to sell me things, so I can log in for 5 minutes to order a piece of software online, and then drive for 2 hours for the 103 miles back home.
 
Bad idea

I agree with many of you why this is a bad idea. I can see some software not needing to take up shelf space but the important and expensive stuff needs a back up DVD. I have a love hate with boxes and serial numbers, mainly space and misplacing it, though that's my problem.
I say anything over 50.00 should be avaiable in a box format too. The instructions can help, plus using more then one computer, etc.
I think it's way to early for this and mainly see way to many down sides at the moment, to many to list.
 
Yes, it does change things.

I live in a large city and I have a bandwidth cap. Right now I can go to one of several Apple stores in town and not use my bandwidth downloading software that currently comes on disc.

I have friends that live in rural areas an hour away who can't get broadband service. Right now they can get their Apple software directly from the store when they're in town.

You ignored my question. I said if there ISN'T an apple store, nothing changes. You responded with "it changes because I have an apple store nearby."
 
My nearest Apple store is 103 miles away, I don't fancy driving for 2 hours to queue in a crowded store, fending off repeated attempts from staff to sell me things, so I can log in for 5 minutes to order a piece of software online, and then drive for 2 hours for the 103 miles back home.

You appear to have missed the entire point of the story and what we are talking about. The premise is that APPLE STORES will no longer carry boxed software. If you weren't going to go to the APPLE STORE anyway to buy your boxed software, this doesn't affect you. If you WERE going to go to the APPLE STORE anyway, and you can't buy from apple.com because you have no internet, just go to the APPLE STORE and use THEIR computers to go to apple.com.
 
Does Apple expect me to download 50 Gigs worth of software when I purchase Final Cut Pro?

I don't think so.
 
Are you saying to remember every serial number of every software you ever purchased by heart? Good for you. I can remember by AppleID, but not all the long serial numbers for every software - luckily they are in my gmail and I can search for them - but it is just easier to authenticate once and than reinstall all my software.

No, I don't remember all those serial numbers.

For that matter I don't remember most of my web passwords (you don't use the same password everywhere, do you?).

You see, there's this thing called the Apple Keychain. I put my serial numbers in it. I put my passwords in it. I put all sorts of information in it. It's a secure storage space, and easily accessed. You should try it sometime.

Oh, and FYI you should have a different password on your keychain than is on your account.
 
Blu-Ray won't replace DVDs.

Wired/Wireless Streaming will (or maybe flash drives)

Blu-ray players are getting better and cheaper by the minute, but in maybe 3-5 years, there will be no need for 'disc' players connected to your TV.


Blu-ray has a maximum throughput of 40Mbps for video alone.

There is going to be a need for disc based content for a long time.
That is unless we want to take a step back to DVD quality movies.
 
It it me, or is Apple now being totally run by the money men these days?

It's like they are going to screw and milk every single dime that they can out of the business now.

Or am I imagining this?
 
This is already the case - Apple does not sell apps that cannot be run on OSX.
There is also alot of Mac Apps that Apple does not sell - that was what Rhodius Prime was trying to say. It's the old canard that Apple is going to lock down the Mac so that you can only get your applications from the Mac App store,
 
It it me, or is Apple now being totally run by the money men these days?

It's like they are going to screw and milk every single dime that they can out of the business now.

Or am I imagining this?

You are absolutely correct, and it will only get worse.
 
There is also alot of Mac Apps that Apple does not sell - that was what Rhodius Prime was trying to say. It's the old canard that Apple is going to lock down the Mac so that you can only get your applications from the Mac App store,

Oh. Wow. Yeah, he sort of expressed that wrong there, didn't he?
 
Is that just installing them so you wouldn't need to have to take the disc out tho. You still need to buy a disc instead of buying a digital copy from a digital market place.

customer (in store): ok i'll take this one home and see if its the right one for my kids.
employer: ok no problem.
customer takes game home and copies it onto his/her hdd/ssd on the ps3
customer goes back to store: oh i'm sorry my son already had the game.
employer: ok no problem (gives money back)
customer at home: see Jason (his son) that way we get free games.


this is just some possible scenario which is meant to be sort of funny :)
 
This trend is scary

I don't like the idea that the company I buy my computer from has this much control over my computer.

Limiting my choices instead of expanding my choices. It's one of the things I hated about Microsoft.

It's ironical, but it seems like Apple is becoming like 1984, as they depicted the PC's in the '80s.

I didn't mind when it was just music.

If this trend continues, there might come a day when I install some for of Linux on my Macs.

I don't consider the App Store trend a "SUCCESS" but an intrusion.
 
downloaded software is not tied to your hardware identifier - MAS downloads can even legally be installed on every freaking machine you own without paying again and without punching in 128 wired letter and number combinations to ensure that you really bought the DVD (and cross checked against the server).

I've got a question about that (supposed) behavior:
What if I go to my friends place, log-in with my Apple ID then re-download my Final Cut Studio app on his computer, install it then log out and go home. Will he be able to use it if the app is not tied to a machine ID? If so, how is that supposed to stop pirating app?

Call me noob but I was just wandering...
 
My nearest Apple store is 103 miles away, I don't fancy driving for 2 hours to queue in a crowded store, fending off repeated attempts from staff to sell me things, so I can log in for 5 minutes to order a piece of software online, and then drive for 2 hours for the 103 miles back home.

yebo papi, i am in south afrika, ...... i have to drive 120km x2 to fetch a physical disc, (beautiful/design ((expensive packaging)) which i prefer) which , in case of a SSS [serious system sh*tdown] we sometimes need .....

i do not mind driving there and back....... and having it.....hoping it is not corrupt (LOL)

let's not assume nirvana, uncapped- fast up/download speeds......... or cloud computing/storage, globally...... or does aapl have a vested interest in selling bandwidth? haha

for me and others, currently only, hopefully, apple's idealogical move ($+) to eliminate hardcore stuff is not on, although from a business perspective it makes sense to them/it?
 
I don't like the idea that the company I buy my computer from has this much control over my computer.

Limiting my choices instead of expanding my choices. It's one of the things I hated about Microsoft.

It's ironical, but it seems like Apple is becoming like 1984, as they depicted the PC's in the '80s.

I didn't mind when it was just music.

If this trend continues, there might come a day when I install some for of Linux on my Macs.

I don't consider the App Store trend a "SUCCESS" but an intrusion.

:confused: You can still go to Best Buy or any other store and buy boxed versions of software. It is just the Apple Store (the brick one) where you no longer can buy boxed software. They do not control any of the other stores.
 
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