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Apple to Introduce Light Peak (High Speed Connection Technology) Soon?

Mr Fusion said:
Could someone post pics of what LightPeak connection ends (holes) look like? All I've seen so far is the colorful-yet-useless pic used at the top of this thread.. :)
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In theory it should be like this.

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Mattsasa said:
get it from the internet legally? Use another computer? Use an external? Don't use that software?
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well th eproblem is i need the macbook for college so its my only computer. it just seems like you shouldnt have to do that for something that should be built in
 
Fraaaa said:
I don't think they will drop it yet. Plus SB will be a problem solving for space on the 13", if LP will be there too will be even better, and I believe that flash storage will help as well.
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yeah i dont think theyd drop it yet either
 
The new Macbook Pros better have USB 3.0

It is the old VHS/Beta thing all over again when it comes to these formats. Sony/Apple lost the mainstream war with Firewire and although it exists today it is a video niche product, USB is where it is at for 95% of uses. USB 3.0 is being put into almost every single laptop and desktop PC at this point and every external hard drive made with a capacity of 2 TB or higher has USB 3.0 in it. Further USB 3 is backwards compatible with 1 and 2. Apple can put light peak in it but if they don't put USB 3 in it too they are just screwing consumers.
 
miles01110 said:
The issue is not whether a small group of professionals would benefit. The issue is whether or not it's a good business decision that would be worth the cost of implementing given that iDevices keep Apple stock on the rise.
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I would love to know if you have any rough evidence showing just how small this group might be. Granted this is the best selling of the Macbook family for Apple, but assuming they are a minority, at what line do you cross to cut this group off entirely? If we're talking about just a third of the Macbook Pro install base, that's still a substantial chunk of users to abandon in my opinion.
 
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Don't forget the large niche of musicians that use FireWire
 
miles01110 said:
Did you even read my original reply on this matter? Because if you had, you'd be aware that I was of the view that wireless technology is the predominate technology now and in the future. If Apple were to push an emerging standard, perhaps they should look at WiMax... not LightPeak.



You know, for some reason I had this picture in my head of a single cable connected in series to every peripheral you wanted to connect. I'm honestly not sure why or how that perception got there.
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Pointless to introduce it if is not adopted by third party devices. I don't know much about WiMax, so I won't argue on about it, but LP will be widely use through the years.

For example, you can have HDMI on your computer or phone but is more likely that if you do a presentation in a university or office the projector will have an RGB connection and not HDMI - and we are in 2011 already. You can connect LP to both of them, as well as DisplayPort. How do you not find this awesome?
 
Fraaaa said:
Pointless to introduce it if is not adopted by third party devices. I don't know much about WiMax, so I won't argue on about it, but LP will be widely use through the years.

For example, you can have HDMI on your computer or phone but is more likely that if you do a presentation in a university or office the projector will have an RGB connection and not HDMI - and we are in 2011 already. You can connect LP to both of them, as well as DisplayPort. How do you not find this awesome?
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Apple would likely have to lose a port or two to make room for the light/copper peak port and supporting hardware. Would they dump USB? DisplayPort? SD card slot? Hmm...
 
abhimat.gautam said:
Looks a lot like USB. Is the same port supposed to be compatible with USB as well? (Sorry, don’t know much about Light Peak…)
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As far as I know, I read that Intel was try to get the permission on using the same connector as the USB to enhance the transition, so that you can use USB on LP ports without the use of a dongle as that USB is the most use type of connector for devices. LP will be compatible with USB, Ethernet, FireWire, HDMI and more.
 
Fraaaa said:
Pointless to introduce it if is not adopted by third party devices. I don't know much about WiMax, so I won't argue on about it, but LP will be widely use through the years.

For example, you can have HDMI on your computer or phone but is more likely that if you do a presentation in a university or office the projector will have an RGB connection and not HDMI - and we are in 2011 already. You can connect LP to both of them, as well as DisplayPort. How do you not find this awesome?
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This. Awesome! :D
 
I'm pretty sure the USB connector was just for the tech demo.

As for the dude complaining 'what if my cable breaks?' I suspect you're just confused - noone is alleging that your computer only have one component connector - just that they would all be unified as lightpeak ports that could handle any type of communication, be that DisplayPort, Ethernet, USB, FW, eSATA, etc.
 
PinkyMacGodess said:
Apple would likely have to lose a port or two to make room for the light/copper peak port and supporting hardware. Would they dump USB? DisplayPort? SD card slot? Hmm...
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If Intel will adopt the USB connector for LP, you will have a USB connector that will work for both USB and LP.
 
alectheking said:
lmao..if im not mistaken WiMax is sprints 4G network
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I believe that you are mistaken. Wimax isn't a cell phone technology.

WiMAX refers to interoperable implementations of the IEEE 802.16 wireless-networks standard (ratified by the WiMAX Forum), in similarity with Wi-Fi, which refers to interoperable implementations of the IEEE 802.11 Wireless LAN standard (ratified by the Wi-Fi Alliance). The WiMAX Forum certification allows vendors to sell their equipment as WiMAX (Fixed or Mobile) certified, thus ensuring a level of interoperability with other certified products, as long as they fit the same profile.

The IEEE 802.16 standard forms the basis of 'WiMAX' and is sometimes referred to colloquially as "WiMAX", "Fixed WiMAX", "Mobile WiMAX", "802.16d" and "802.16e." Clarification of the formal names are as follow:

* 802.16-2004 is also known as 802.16d, which refers to the working party that has developed that standard. It is sometimes referred to as "Fixed WiMAX," since it has no support for mobility.
* 802.16e-2005, often abbreviated to 802.16e, is an amendment to 802.16-2004. It introduced support for mobility, among other things and is therefore also known as "Mobile WiMAX".

Mobile WiMAX is the WiMAX incarnation that has the most commercial interest to date and is being actively deployed in many countries. Mobile WiMAX is also the basis of future revisions of WiMAX. As such, references to and comparisons with "WiMAX" in this Wikipedia article mean "Mobile WiMAX".

WiMAX is sometimes referred to as "Wi-Fi on steroids" and can be used for a number of applications including broadband connections, cellular backhaul, hotspots, etc. It is similar to Wi-Fi but it can also permit usage at much greater distances. WiMax is more effective on a larger scale and it is more cost-effective because the cost of moving traditional broadband services to the next is more expensive.
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Sprint may use Wimax for backhaul, but not for their cell phone devices.
 
ModestForumName said:
Looks like I'm upgrading soon =D

Edit: what are the transfer speeds like with lightpeak?
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Light Peak is probably going to be introduced as something that makes more since to call "Copper Peak", because, well it will have nothing to do with light, as it won't be using fiber optics. The fiber optic technology just isn't there yet, and it's also quite expensive.

That isn't the worst thing though, as Intel has Light Peak using copper going at speeds of 10Gbs, or about 1.2 GB per second! Pretty fast! Still, it's no where near what they wanted to introduce a true Light Peak at: 50Gbs, 5 times faster, and later ramping up to 100GBs.

Still, at 10Gbs I'd be happy to upgrade :) You can fill up a Tera-byte HD in about 13 mins with that kind of power.

Supposedly USB3.0 should max out at 5 Gbs, or 640 MB/s, but we aren't seeing anything near that yet.

So, this "Copper Peak" we are bout to witness is theoretically twice as fast as USB3.0 but.. once it makes the jump to true fiber optics it would blow USB3.0 out of the water, of course by then I'm sure we'd see USB4.0.
 
God I'm so glad Apple has the balls to move forward with consumer technology. If it was up to the boys at Dell and Microsoft we'd still be using PS/2 keyboards, parallel printers, and tray loading CD/DVD drives. Oh wait.
 
Vitruviux said:
Mistake by Apple IMO, USB 3.0 is fine, backwards compatible and fast enough.

Light Peak... first it does not deliver power, and if they go copper, then what's the point?
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Yes, it does deliver power.

And copper light peak is still much faster than USB 3.0.
 
miles01110 said:
Did you even read my original reply on this matter? Because if you had, you'd be aware that I was of the view that wireless technology is the predominate technology now and in the future. If Apple were to push an emerging standard, perhaps they should look at WiMax... not LightPeak.
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And how would you power said devices? WiMax isn't going to be powering anything, and if you're going to have a cord running, it might as well provide the fastest speeds.
 
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