I'm not sure this is true, In reading up about Light Peak, the move to copper allowed them to shrink it down considerably. It's possible that the move to LP could in fact give them more room, not less.
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Apple to Introduce Light Peak (High Speed Connection Technology) Soon?
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I'm not sure this is true, In reading up about Light Peak, the move to copper allowed them to shrink it down considerably. It's possible that the move to LP could in fact give them more room, not less.
Light Peak is probably going to be introduced as something that makes more since to call "Copper Peak", because, well it will have nothing to do with light, as it won't be using fiber optics. The fiber optic technology just isn't there yet, and it's also quite expensive.
That isn't the worst thing though, as Intel has Light Peak using copper going at speeds of 10Gbs, or about 1.2 GB per second! Pretty fast! Still, it's no where near what they wanted to introduce a true Light Peak at: 50Gbs, 5 times faster, and later ramping up to 100GBs.
Still, at 10Gbs I'd be happy to upgradeYou can fill up a Tera-byte HD in about 13 mins with that kind of power.
Supposedly USB3.0 should max out at 5 Gbs, or 640 MB/s, but we aren't seeing anything near that yet.
So, this "Copper Peak" we are bout to witness is theoretically twice as fast as USB3.0 but.. once it makes the jump to true fiber optics it would blow USB3.0 out of the water, of course by then I'm sure we'd see USB4.0.
Everything that I've read says that copper peak will only be marginally faster than USB 3. Copper peak also appears to be an 'appetizer' for the light peak to be coming around the corner... Going to it won't make much sense in the short or long term...
There are still other benefit, as for more room on the logic board and compatibility with other I/O.
It would make a lot of since for long term wouldn't it? If it IS faster then USB3.0 that is good for consumers. Not to mention the benefits of the supposed ability for it to interface with everything.
Doubt this will be in next MBP update because MBP is getting update like in a matter of weeks. This kind of technology is something that apple will hold a press event for.
Time to wait for next update. Glad I have my MBA 11.6 inch to hold me over. I need a new MBP, but I can wait until end of this year.
Time to wait for next update. Glad I have my MBA 11.6 inch to hold me over. I need a new MBP, but I can wait until end of this year.
Exactly, there simply isn't any consumer demand for higher speed peripheral connections. SSDs have just barely started to exceed SATA II speeds, but SATA III and USB 3.0 offer plenty of headroom for that already and at least for a couple of years, using cheap, backwards compatible hardware and connections. Besides that, wireless peripherals are on fire - its the only kind of kb and mouse Apple ships with their iMacs - even Time Capsule, which handles multiple backups of entire systems,is wireless.
I don't really understand why anyone would want to invest in new, expensive hardware for higher speeds and leapfrog proven, legacy-compatible alternatives which have over a year on the market and already supported and matured?
If Apple delivers MacBooks with Lightspeed rather than USB 3.0, they are just going to make users pay ridiculous prices for connectors and cables no one in the PC world uses, like they did to Mac users with Firewire and DisplayPort,and skip the practical, cheap workhorse ports PC users get value from everyday - eSATA, USB 3.0, HDMI, DVI-D.
Unfortunately, fibre optic cables don't provide power either. The technology itself it based on light.
CopperPeak itself wouldn't be faster then USB3. So basically there's no point in introducing this technology now. This will remain a rumor.
Also wireless will never be the dominant. it's an IE vs Firefox comparison. Even though none of us use IE anymore, companies will stick to it. The same goes for wireless. Most companies have both just for those with laptops. it's definitely not going to replace wired tech anytime soon. Especially since light speak can be used with all these standards. HDMI, Mini-display, Even ethernet would be plausible.
Then I guess sit comes down to how long Intel supports copper peak. If it's true that Copper peak is an appetizer than I'd predict that many vendors will probably want to wait it out for the full light peak to start shipping before adopting the technology. It almost appears to me that 'copper' light peak might be stillborn technology. An afterthought... (Remember the CNA (?) Slot Intel invented that went just about nowhere. (I still have most of a box of NICs for the CNA slot))
But who knows until it ships...
I'd prefer that the MBP 'enhancement' would be BluRay, or even a built-in cellular modem...
There is a consumer demand for not having 5 different ports which you need 5 different cables.
There is enhancement for having more space on the logic board.
Having LP is the opposite of skipping praticality. Concerned with eSATA, USB 3.0 and HDMI? You use LP with it.
As you spelled LightPeak wrong as well, I assume you still have no understanding of what LP is about. Is not about the speed.
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Copper peak still power, according to a few articles that I read, isn't a 'done deal'. There is wide consensus that there will be something like the power from a typical USB connector currently in use however there is nothing firmed evidently on how much power could be available.
Yes, light peak will not be able to provide power to devices which will complicate things a little bit plus the added draw for the LED's and such...
Still, light peak could be the technology that drives fiber to the desktop. I'm excited...
It seems like you're suffering from the same ID-10-T error as the guy you quoted from.
No one uses Firewire...
If you want to be cheap and have something that looks like it works with everything else, stick to you beige box and save yourself the time to type on an Apple forum.
There still are people that depend on firewire. My video camera uses firewire. So it's OK to crap on older technology but if Apple totally drops firewire then they will be having people that depend on it migrating to computers that support it. Plain and simple.
Apple isn't going to win friends by forcing their users to dump their sizable investments in firewire devices just to be able to upgrade or replace an older Apple product.
Just because you don't use it doesn't mean that no one else does.
LP cables for $1?
Yeah, the same way that USB cables are $1...
If they are fiber, they are going to be expensive. Try something like $1 per quarter inch...
Yeah, the same way that USB cables are $1...
If they are fiber, they are going to be expensive. Try something like $1 per quarter inch...
Actually it is you who are mistaken, PinkyMacGodess:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_deployed_WiMAX_networks#U
Sprint/Clearwire is most definitely WiMax. Any Sprint phone or USB modem that connects to their "4G" network is, in fact, a WiMax device. Voice is not transmitted via WiMax, at this point. But the data connection is mos' def' WiMax.
Simultaneous 10Gbps up and down with the possibility of increasing to 100Gbps over the next decade. Initially, it may not hit the 10Gbps and depends on a few factors.
http://www.computerworld.com/s/arti...s_Light_Peak_interconnect_technology_is_ready
What I find exciting is the possibility it offers of simplification to just one type of cable to connect printers, monitors, speakers, storage drives, etc. Of course, that's a ways off.
one cable to replace all cables (DVI, HDMI, Displayport, Ethernet, USB, Firewire) why not?
ADB was matured too, Apple also dropped it for USB. You know they pissed off how many mac faithfuls just because of that?
So I guess we don't have any Apple computers in our recording studio then?...
Funny... Because all of them seem to be macs.
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I tend to agree with you, wireless technology peripherals is tha dawn of the future.. to hell with wires
100 posts in this thread, and no one has brought up the patent that was the headline just a few days ago.
If Apple was to name the port something other than "Light Peak", why would it look like what is pictured in the first post? A USB-like connecter is something Apple would have considered no later than 2005. It's 2011. Apple's next connector will be magnetic based.
If Apple was to name the port something other than "Light Peak", why would it look like what is pictured in the first post? A USB-like connecter is something Apple would have considered no later than 2005. It's 2011. Apple's next connector will be magnetic based.
I wonder if this is somehow related to the report in this thread a couple days ago about a new Magsafe power & data connector? The diagrams show fiber optics as a possible connection in there...
100 posts in this thread, and no one has brought up the patent that was the headline just a few days ago.
If Apple was to name the port something other than "Light Peak", why would it look like what is pictured in the first post? A USB-like connecter is something Apple would have considered no later than 2005. It's 2011. Apple's next connector will be magnetic based.
HAHA! You beat me by 3 minutes as I was typing mine!