No no no, you guys need to buy them all up as fast as possible while I wait a few months to not get a lemon.
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Apple to Introduce New Macs at October 27 Event
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It's old tech and will be ditched. People need to accept that.
Not sure rumors were about it having touchscreen. The rumors i am aware of are suggesting it will have an LED strip that replaces the function keys. I can't see this making a huge difference either positive or negative.
There will be no touch screen nor any USB-A ports on the new MacBook Pros. That’s just not how Apple operates. There might be a slim chance the 15” still retains its SD slot, but the 13” for sure won’t. The chances of at least the 15” retaining one USB-A are very slim at best. Yes, it would be practical today, but again that’s not how Apple operates.
Apple will push Thunderbolt 3 & USB-C all they way and I admit it doesn’t sound all that great on first sight looking at our desks. But it certainly is the right move and when we have a closer look, most of us won’t be as screwed as we think we’ll be.
Think about it: a single TB3 dock will sort out all your “legacy” peripherals on your desk anyway. The ones currently being sold will have you already covered and they are quite a bit cheaper than the TB2 docks were. With Apple going all TB3/USB-C you can expect more docks coming onto the market within the next 2-3 months that are even better tailored to MacBook Pros including charging. So you’ll be connecting a single cable to your MBP and be done with it. I am looking forward to that.
The other route is: look at your peripherals again. You are likely to discover that more often than not in case of your USB and TB1 or TB2 devices all you actually need is to replace the cable. You won’t need a dongle in most cases.
What you will need a dongle for, and that is the sad part, are USB sticks. And that dongle you’ll need for a couple more years to come. Even though the PC space is adopting USB-C nicely, they still retain USB-A ports which in turn doesn’t put much pressure on manufacturers and users to switch.
I personally would prefer to have an SD slot and HDMI on the new MacBook Pros, but when the carrot on the stick is a faster adaptation of TB3 & USB-C to soon only have one port that covers it all, then I am looking forward to this change.
Apple will push Thunderbolt 3 & USB-C all they way and I admit it doesn’t sound all that great on first sight looking at our desks. But it certainly is the right move and when we have a closer look, most of us won’t be as screwed as we think we’ll be.
Think about it: a single TB3 dock will sort out all your “legacy” peripherals on your desk anyway. The ones currently being sold will have you already covered and they are quite a bit cheaper than the TB2 docks were. With Apple going all TB3/USB-C you can expect more docks coming onto the market within the next 2-3 months that are even better tailored to MacBook Pros including charging. So you’ll be connecting a single cable to your MBP and be done with it. I am looking forward to that.
The other route is: look at your peripherals again. You are likely to discover that more often than not in case of your USB and TB1 or TB2 devices all you actually need is to replace the cable. You won’t need a dongle in most cases.
What you will need a dongle for, and that is the sad part, are USB sticks. And that dongle you’ll need for a couple more years to come. Even though the PC space is adopting USB-C nicely, they still retain USB-A ports which in turn doesn’t put much pressure on manufacturers and users to switch.
I personally would prefer to have an SD slot and HDMI on the new MacBook Pros, but when the carrot on the stick is a faster adaptation of TB3 & USB-C to soon only have one port that covers it all, then I am looking forward to this change.
Then why does the iDevice line still not come with a USB C to lightning cable?
If the time was perfect to drop the "old" headphone jack... why not?
Ask Tim Cook, the Development team and Johnny Ive. Something in the presentation video saying something like "We wanted to redesign the macbook pro from scratch, so could make it thinner, faster than ever, to accomplish that.... etc etc etc"
Because aside from the 12" MacBook, the rest of the lineup hasn't been updated. Yet.
Dongles hanging out? Please. Do you carry your charger? If not, the odds are pretty low you need to carry anything else and if you do, be real about your dongles and the space they consume.
I carry an unusual amount because of the varied nature of my work. Networking is where things bite me the hardest, but the adapters are a small issue. I need connector cables and such anyway. My TB->Ethernet is smaller than my USB->Serial cable. The nice thing about USB-C is there is a focus on multi-port mini hubs which actually make life easier for someone like me (presuming it's USB only and not TB3).
You're either carrying a bunch of stuff that you need adapters for... or your aren't. If you carry a bunch of accessories, the added load from the adapters is nothing. If you're regularly commuting to a location that you need to connect to a bunch of stuff, your adapters are either there or (smarter) part of a central hub (thanks Thunderbolt).
Who are these mythical people that need TONS OF ADAPTERS? If you have a ton of adapters, odds are EXTREMELY high that you're simply "doing it wrong." This is just complaining to complain at this point. It has been for ages. About the only normal use case I see is hooking up to projectors and such. Guess what? I have to carry a VGA adapter for old ones anyway. It's tiny. Before I had a rMBP and was sporting an Air (and a 2010 13" Pro before that) I carried Mini DisplayPort -> HDMI. These adapters take up as much space in your bag as a damn pen. The totality of my adapters (and again, I'm even abnormal in this regard) weigh less and take up roughly the same amount of space as a charger. Woop-dee-doo.
And if you hate Apple's prices, guess what? USB-C and TB3 are being adopted at a much higher rather than TB2. Head to Monoprice and grab a couple of cheap adapters.
You could always buy a Macbook Pro from 2012 (non retina) - it is far from a perfect machine but it does allow you to upgrade the internals yourself. It has 2 ports of USB 3 and a SD card, a Thunderbolt over display port but no HDMI.
Suggestion if you go for this my recommendation is to upgrade the RAM to 16GB, replace the existing HDD with a good SSD, AND replace the superdrive with another SSD unless you need the superdrive.
Well, when you reason through everything calmly, sure. But what if I just wanted to go with my initial gut reaction?
I agree. I know in some way it will be totally overlooked, or used as a tool to make the MacBook pro seem that much more "special".
I'm certain to buy a new iMac to replace my existing aging one. However, I've been doing my TimeMachine backups over Firewire, and I am anticipating with dread how I am going to restore to a new USB-C only machine. I am okay with dongles, but after several hours of research I still cannot figure out exactly what I would need to hook a Firewire 800 drive to a USB-C/Thunderbolt 3 port.
i've looked pretty much everywhere. There's no direct solution, so I assume I have to cobble something together. One thought would be to start with Apple's Thunderbolt to FW adapter, but how does that connect to Thunderbolt 3? There don't seem to be a lot of solid Thunderbolt 3 to Thunderbolt adapters available-- I found one, but it seems sketchy. Am I missing something? The articles I've read say Thunderbolt to Thunderbolt 3 requires some kind of adapter.
Maybe I'll be lucky and with Apple will provide a solution, or the iMac will come with some legacy ports. But someone with a MacBook Pro must be facing a similar problem-- what's the solution?
i've looked pretty much everywhere. There's no direct solution, so I assume I have to cobble something together. One thought would be to start with Apple's Thunderbolt to FW adapter, but how does that connect to Thunderbolt 3? There don't seem to be a lot of solid Thunderbolt 3 to Thunderbolt adapters available-- I found one, but it seems sketchy. Am I missing something? The articles I've read say Thunderbolt to Thunderbolt 3 requires some kind of adapter.
Maybe I'll be lucky and with Apple will provide a solution, or the iMac will come with some legacy ports. But someone with a MacBook Pro must be facing a similar problem-- what's the solution?
Yeah probably not I just said it so what I meant was clearer (i.e. white in a jet black finish). i could have said glossy white. Having said that, I don't think they would call it Pearl White.
I agree but Apple want to push the future and lately they have gone a bit too far with that idea. I have a feeling that since there are less people overlooking Jony Ive, he just keeps removing ports and making everything thinner.
Apples adapters aren't the best in terms of size and functionality, and obviously price. I always go for the 3rd party ones unless necessary.
It sort of irks me that Apple offers 11", 12", 13" and 15" laptops vs. 12", 14" and 16". The form factors wouldn't even have to change, just put larger screens with less bezel in.
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Pretty sure his/Apple's end goal is wireless everything and no ports.
Yes it is, they want everything to be wireless, but sometimes they move too fast. I think the complete move to USB C and cutting down in ports is fine (for most people, probably not professionals), but its the headphone jack that still annoys me. They should have introduced wireless headphones with the W1 chip with the 6S and pushed it more by making the pricing more competitive, or simply not removed it at all. The main problem is not price but battery life and I don't think the W1 completely fixes that. Anyway, i'm going onto a rant so i'll stop here.
While losing ports sucks, if we get four Thunderbolt 3 USB-3 connectors at 40 Gbs each, that is 4*40Gbs=160Gbs IO throughput, that's sick! And if these connectors truly become one connector to rule them all, replacing mini/micro/type-a/type-b/displayport/hdmi/etc on all devices eventually AND USB-C connectors end up having the same longevity as USB-A connectors enjoyed for 2+ decades, that is pretty cool too.
Trying to see a bright side here...
PS. I will forgive the loss of any ports if they bring back the 17" MBP
Trying to see a bright side here...
PS. I will forgive the loss of any ports if they bring back the 17" MBP
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HA! You're such a smart, all knowing king. "Done with you peasant"... You know, when it comes out, if I'm wrong, I'll state it. You seem like the type who will come up with some delusional excuse as to how you were "technically" not wrong, or lie outright.
What ever the case may be, get over yourself hot shot.
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Yea, I read that wrong.
"Professional" means Engaged in a specified activity as one's main paid occupation rather than as an amateur. Not sure where you pulled your "technical" definition. There's nothing about a degree in the definition.
OTOH, under Timmy's Apple, "pro" is a marketing buzzword that means a higher price for no reason other than higher margin.
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Every tech will be ditched eventually.
Now calling USB old tech and ditching it now when it's the mainstream port for 99.99% of users is absolute stupidity. Even if in 2 years everyone is on USB-C, Apple is still 100% wrong to take away the industry standard ports today.
I didn't actually consider USB-drives. Not something I'm reliant upon, but I guess that might require a dongle, depending on the machines you use it with.
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Budget will be a bit tight on the new one, definitely getting a 27" for sure, but need to see the speed difference between the mid level i5 and the i7 (which I'd like more as a method of future-proofing, than necessarily an actual "need".)
Main big things I do are Photoshop and recording music, so SSD or flash memory is basically mandatory (had to change out my old HDD from my Mini because it was way too slow.)
Also plan on incrementally upgrading the RAM, probably to 32 gigs, which might make the i5 fine for the future...
Hmm, I have a late 2013 Macbook Pro. At the time I read an article here about the 1TB ssd version being extra fast pci-e. Budget restriction limited me to choose the 2,3Ghz if I went for the 1TB ssd. I am still happy I did. For my work the only thing sometimes missing is having more than 16GB RAM. Otherwise I don't feel the need to upgrade. The battery still has 93% of orig capacity. I am impressed how good value for money I got from Apple with this machine. Not sure what new in the supposedly new MBP could win me over. The technical advancement re speed has basically not been significant the last years. Except for storage speed, but I already have a 800/900MB/s pci-e i the three y.o. MBP. Hmm... maybe 32GB RAM option. But those dongles...
How about a version which keep the current laptop format but enables bigger battery and better cooling with new chips? Instead of only offering a thinner and lighter version.
How about a version which keep the current laptop format but enables bigger battery and better cooling with new chips? Instead of only offering a thinner and lighter version.