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Apple to Introduce Third MacBook Line with Retina Display at WWDC?

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MBP is a brand.. apple would be silly to get rid of it and to get rid of the most affordable version the 13". apple apple need to do is offer a non glare and retina option on all MBPs
 
Love Love Love the MBP 17"

Hi everyone I'm new here with posting but not new to the rumors.

The more I visit the more I realize these rumors are like cracking open a fortune cookie after a good meal - the fortunes always spin my head and make absolutely NO SENSE what so ever and purely filler.

I have to get the latest MBP 17" before they become extinct!

I'm still a proud user of the 2008 MBP 17" still, it has been an incredible powerhouse machine for all my needs. As a musician it is so helpful, so helpful in fact because while everyone is complacent with the notion that the optical drive is now 'so blah', it has been a musicians best tool to push out independent CDs to sell at functions, to donate to charity auctions and to gift family on Xmas, etc etc etc. The MBP 17" made me feel powerful and a great sense of independence, I love that it is a magnificent self-contained unit. Just the perfect amount of viewing area, power and mobility for the kind of 'pro' use I need.

I wouldn't mind a MBA style 17" machine from Santa baby... Affordability is the most important factor for me being an independent musician who loves using over-sized 'mobile' machines, because I do everything on them, watch movies, business, produce albums, promote online, collaborate online, etc etc. I think the MBP 17" is the PERFECT marriage of everything in a laptop really.

I'm not a trend follower but an innovator in my field of World Music; so I really make GOOD use of the technology available to me WITHOUT needing to follow the herd of hipsters. The MBP 17" I have really - really pays for itself with each album I release, at least 200x's over in fact!

APPLE is an awesome marketing guru, they really got everyone buying into their 'little' teasers. I don't see off the wall - crazy amazing updates, I see just enough updates which they chose to tease their hip / rich consumers with a HUGE wow / woah factor! I'm not sold on any of their marketing or taunts, that is why I only own one product by APPLE that is my MBP 17" machine still solid and amazing since 2008. I can wait another 8 years when maybe perhaps something truly WOW is unleashed because the improvements currently are so minuscule, they keep holding back, they have the means and the technology but they keep the hipsters entertained. I guess that is big techno business.

I'm still not buying and I'm happy to be the 1%. This business / marketing is not geared to please individuals like me I know and I am okay with that. I'm loyal to my MBP 17" because it is an incredible work of art! Everything else is a gimmick to me.

Great forum thanks,

V.
 
rmwebs said:
I hope we dont see ANOTHER line up of MacBooks.

I'd rather they consolidate it more.

The difference between a MacBook and a MacBook Pro is now very minor. Just have a MacBook line that is the thickness of the Air, and then offer a wide range of performance options (e.g still have a 11" at 1.6ghz, but also have a 15" with an i7.

It just seems to be silly to me to have such a wide range when they could just have a single lineup of laptops that are as thick as the air (or slightly thicker).
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Not silly--a logical transition which provides people with a chance to shift mindsets from optical media to digital. Also, the hi-res panels may not be overly abundant and Apple may need time to work out some bugs both in the design and in the components, i.e., the hi-res panels.
 
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KGI Securities analyst Ming-Chi Kuo today issued a new report outlining his belief that Apple's thinner, Retina-equipped Mac notebook will arrive next week as a new model, referring to the machine simply as a "MacBook". Kuo believes that this MacBook will be offered alongside upgraded versions of the existing 13-inch and 15-inch MacBook Pro models, with Apple being reluctant to do away with the current 13-inch design in particular due to its massive popularity.Kuo also reiterates his earlier claims that Apple will discontinue the 17-inch MacBook Pro this year, citing estimates that the model makes up only 1% of Apple's notebook sales.

The introduction of this new "MacBook" model would leave Apple with a lineup of six notebooks, although Kuo predicts that issues with display yield and heat dissipation will push the release of the 13-inch MacBook back until August, leaving only the 15-inch model to make its debut next week.

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Mention of an independent graphics chip on 13" MacBook Pro is an error - should be integrated graphics​
We should note that this configuration of models is not accounted for in our speculation on part numbers that leaked earlier this week, but we did receive an unconfirmed tip of a different configuration that would match up with Kuo's claims fairly closely. In that scenario, new iMacs are not accounted for in the list and the J30/J31 model numbers represent updated 13-inch and 15-inch MacBook Pro models while the D2 model represents this new Retina-equipped 15-inch MacBook.

Kuo believes that Apple will wait until next year to re-simplify its notebook lines with Intel's Haswell platform, at which point the company will merge the MacBook Pro and this new MacBook model, leaving a set of four models: 11-inch and 13-inch MacBook Airs and 13-inch and 15-inch MacBooks.

We do find Kuo's claims to be somewhat difficult to believe, as we fail to see how this new "MacBook" model is substantially different in performance from the MacBook Pro and thus do not see why users would be interested in a non-Retina MacBook Pro given the existence of this new MacBook line. Given the scenario outlined by Kuo, the only "advantage" of the thicker MacBook Pro would be an included optical drive, but users are finding such a feature to be increasingly unnecessary and easily replaceable by digital downloads such as through the Mac App Store, direct file transfers, and cloud-based storage, with an external optical drive available to be connected only on the rare occasions when necessary.

Still, Kuo has offered accurate information on Apple's notebook plans in the past, being the first to outlined the MacBook Air redesign that included the new 11-inch model, and thus we feel that his claims are worth some consideration and discussion.

Article Link: Apple to Introduce Third MacBook Line with Retina Display at WWDC?
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Shouldn't "Retinal display with tapered edge, larger battery capacity" be "Retina display with tapered edge, larger battery capacity"
 
Why exactly are we whining about choice again??? They will sell all three lines I guarantee it if they offer another line.

Some people literally just want the air and thats it. Disgusting.

I thumbed myself down cause it means nothing anyway.
 
While I can believe that Apple is making a 15" MacBook Air and see tons of merit to the existence of such a machine, I do not see the merit of more than that or a whole line of hybrids. That's just needless and last I checked, Apple isn't all about needless.
 
Sacird said:
Why exactly are we whining about choice again??? They will sell all three lines I guarantee it if they offer another line.

Some people literally just want the air and thats it. Disgusting.

I thumbed myself down cause it means nothing anyway.
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And I upvoted you, just because. problem? :D
 
marcusj0015 said:
And I upvoted you, just because. problem? :D
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Damn u. :p

I'll down vote this one again. Thanks for the other down votes, see how it makes the post go away. : )

Should be

Macbook Air 11,13,15

Macbook 13,15,17 mid range GPU's, decent specs

MBP 13,15,17 High end GPU's, high end specs retina etc...
 
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Blu-Ray said:
If it is true, it will be available for $2,499 AUS (so maybe $2,199 US).
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The pricing data on the link you provided estimates $1799.

Otherwise their charging $400 more for the retina screen, but less ports and no dvd. I don't see it. Most laptop providers charge $50-$100 to upgrade a screen. Even by apple standards for a retina, $400 over the pro seems nuts.

It could be the 1999 and 2499 on the aus list, but 2499 and 3199 for a 15" seems too much of a stretch.
 
pacalis said:
The pricing data on the link you provided estimates $1799.

Otherwise their charging $400 more for the retina screen, but less ports and no dvd. I don't see it. Most laptop providers charge $50-$100 to upgrade a screen. Even by apple standards for a retina, $400 over the pro seems nuts.

It could be the 1999 and 2499 on the aus list, but 2499 and 3199 for a 15" seems too much of a stretch.
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This would be more than just a screen upgrade though - a brand new thinner and lighter form factor + retina may justify $400 premium (and maybe SSD standard and/or more RAM).
 
Ok, my bet:

- a new macbook 13'' "educational", price 999 $ (no retina)

- no more macbook pro 13"/17"

- macbook air 15"
 
If this is true then I cant imagine this new lineup having a retina display...
The display has got to be the main thing to offer on the new pro lineup over and above the rest
 
well this is stupid, why would they make the BETTER computer the MacBook and the older model the MacBook pro if the "pro" comes in the same sizes with no retina display?
 
Blu-Ray said:
This would be more than just a screen upgrade though - a brand new thinner and lighter form factor + retina may justify $400 premium (and maybe SSD standard and/or more RAM).
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Don't forget the $2499 AUS is for the base. A 13" base air is $1299. So you're looking at a base difference of $900 to go up to a larger 15". Add a generous better chip, better graphics, yours still at a premium of $400 for the display.

Also look at the ipad - the retina display barely commands a premium.

But to be clear, I'm not arguing that this is competing with the MBA or the ipad. It think it will be competing with the Pro - which is why I think the numbers of $1799 look right. While I value a retina display greatly, most people still buy without even looking at resolution.
 
pacalis said:
Don't forget the $2499 AUS is for the base. A 13" base air is $1299. So you're looking at a base difference of $900 to go up to a larger 15". Add a generous better chip, better graphics, yours still at a premium of $400 for the display.

Also look at the ipad - the retina display barely commands a premium.

But to be clear, I'm not arguing that this is competing with the MBA or the ipad. It think it will be competing with the Pro - which is why I think the numbers of $1799 look right. While I value a retina display greatly, most people still buy without even looking at resolution.
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I think that there will be a 15" for $1799, just not the new redesigned 15" with retina. The premium cost will likely be for new form factor + retina + more RAM + SSD standard (or larger HDD).
 
Blu-Ray said:
I think that there will be a 15" for $1799, just not the new redesigned 15" with retina. The premium cost will likely be for new form factor + retina + more RAM + SSD standard (or larger HDD).
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This isn't a rumor, it's ********.
 
As silly as it might be, I'd love for them to introduce another line of Macbooks. They might essentially be the same, but you get more options and price variety from there being more choices. I remember you could buy a new Macbook for $1,000, but now that they're out of the picture all Apple laptops are $1,200+ with the exception of the Air which I would never consider buying. Is it silly from a business standpoint? Maybe, but I'm a consumer and I've got nothing to lose from this possibility.
 
I won't be too happy if they get rid of the 17". I use my MacBookPro on the road and don't have the luxury of hooking up an external monitor to be able to use a menu-heavy program like Motion or After Effects comfortably. If they put in a retina display to fit more on a 15" screen, everything will be so small I'll go blind.
 
Death-T said:
As silly as it might be, I'd love for them to introduce another line of Macbooks. They might essentially be the same, but you get more options and price variety from there being more choices. I remember you could buy a new Macbook for $1,000, but now that they're out of the picture all Apple laptops are $1,200+ with the exception of the Air which I would never consider buying. Is it silly from a business standpoint? Maybe, but I'm a consumer and I've got nothing to lose from this possibility.
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Risk of cannibalization of existing laptops.

Pass.
 
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