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This has been one of the `double dipped` secure WWDC for a while. It is one business day before the WWDC, and we still don`t have a lot of solid information. We knew more about what would be unveiled several days before the conference last several years.
 
I am really hoping for a 13'' model with a dedicated GPU. It's the main reason I haven't bought a Apple notebook model yet, larger than 13" too big for me.
 
Grasping at straws, people, grasping at straws.

But, you want to know how this is ****? "Apple reluctance to discontinue the 13" model..."

Well, they killed the 12" PowerBook that everyone loved and people whined for a long time. It was popular. Apple doesn't give a damn about popular. Apple gives a damn about making the next best thing.
 
I know you're just being funny, but past models will simply be referred to by their model year or generation number, for example: "iPad (2012)" or "iPad (third generation)". The new iPad will always be the newest iPad.

Of course I'm just being funny. For one I don't believe that they will introduce a third product line for 1 year. Second, what else do I have to do until Monday. I'm just waiting for the real news like everyone else. Instead of this - honestly - page 3 nonsense.
 
It's seem reasonable.

11 MBA = $999
13 MBA = $1299

13 MBP = $1199
15 MBP = $1799

15 MBX = $2499
15 MBX = $3199

I agree, but I think the MBX price will be lower. The 2,499/3,199 from the parts list were Australian prices, so the US prices would be lower, probably more like 2,099 and 2,799.
 
In the diagram it's listed as an 'intel integrated graphics'. Not sure where you seem them saying the 13" would have a discrete chip.

According to the diagram the new 13" MBP will have dedicated graphics.
 
I hope this rumor is true because it makes sense and would be my choice. Look how long Apple has been working on high/variable resolution as a feature. A decade or so. We may finally see it ship.

Maybe we will see 17" go BTO only? MacMall and other dealers sell preconfigured BTO Macs at retail.

Rocketman
 
i stopped reading after the 3rd word...which was Analyst.

Move along...

These clowns like getting on front pages but they are full of dung.
 
So you telling me that after Apple took a step forward by removing the Macbook line, they are going take a step back and do this?

I doubt it. The retina has to be part of the other laptops.
 
So theres gonna be a Macbook with a higher res screen then the Macbook Pro?

Yea right.... I needed a laugh this morning.
 
This can't be true...
Thinner, MBP level processing power, and with Retina Display?????
I can't see why people would want to buy MBP anymore, so why bother having a MBP line where the new "MacBook" is better?

The only Macbook Pro (thick) to keep should be the 13" with ODD and low price point for school use!! (MS/HS/BS)

ALL others should be going thin, retina, and SSD!!!! (11/13/15) :cool:
 
In the diagram it's listed as an 'intel integrated graphics'. Not sure where you seem them saying the 13" would have a discrete chip.

Um. Right there. Outlined in red for you. The 13 MBP. As I stated in my post.
 

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i stopped reading after the 3rd word...which was Analyst.
Move along...
These clowns like getting on front pages but they are full of dung.

Yep.

One more reason to doubt this is that Apple resurgence in the Jobs era was due to a concentration of the model lines not an explosion of the offering, and I doubt that now that the iPhone, iPad and iPod make more than 70% of Apple's revenue (god knows what % of the profits) they'll overly invest in computers and inflate the range of models.

While rumors of a mini-iPad make some sense (cheaper, old-resolution so no dev work needed, more suitable to youngsters), I don't know how many MacBook range can coexist.

For years Apple has being offering great laptop computers selling tons of them, but still never got a huge increase in computer shares. To this day competitors haven't managed to release a true competitor to the MB Air but people believe their are too expensive (where are the cheaper equivalent PC models?).
Apple tried the small mac with the mini, and it wasn't a huge success, they tried servers that tanked (their own fault for not investing in building real customer support).

If recent news is any indication most huge US PC makers are leaving the market to concentrate on server-mainframe-businesses, while Apple rakes a majority of the device market. The MacBook and iMac range seem safe in Apple's future, mini & Mac Pro not so much.

I for one will be happy once the ultrabook transition is over with the air range covering 11" to 13" (integrated graphics only) and the MB Pro at 15" (discreet GPU).
 
This can't be true...
Thinner, MBP level processing power, and with Retina Display?????
I can't see why people would want to buy MBP anymore, so why bother having a MBP line where the new "MacBook" is better?

But maybe the new MacBook would be much more expensive, then there might be a point… Though I doubt Apple would introduce an even more expensive computer than the MacBook Pro.

I don't like the idea of this new MacBook being a separate product, I'd rather have it be the MacBook Pro indeed.
 
I don't agree. If you completely take away the HDD, you lose a lot of people. SSDs have come down in price quite a bit, but they're still prohibitively expensive in the sizes that a lot of people need. And with protable computers, people don't want to have to carry around external drives. If you go to a slimmer model, is the RAM still user upgradable? If not, you lose a bunch more people because a huge number of people nowdays need more than 4GB of RAM, and paying Apple for it costs a fortune.

You know the chipset used in the Air actually supports 8. Apple chose to cap it out at 4. There could be many reasons for this including cost, power consumption, and board design. While I think it's a cool machine, the compromises are pretty heavy just to drop a small amount of weight. It would make more sense for me if I was traveling constantly and needed to keep carry-on within luggage limits.


The iToyz lovers are going to be unhappy. They hate choices, it confuses them.

Choices is not what the new mass market focused Apple is all about.

Someone at the top needs to decide what it's going to be.

Choices or no choices :eek:

Apple likes things that sell in large numbers. If you need anything that goes against their design theory, it's always a leveraging game of what could work rather than doing things however you might like.

For years Apple has being offering great laptop computers selling tons of them, but still never got a huge increase in computer shares. To this day competitors haven't managed to release a true competitor to the MB Air but people believe their are too expensive (where are the cheaper equivalent PC models?).
Apple tried the small mac with the mini, and it wasn't a huge success, they tried servers that tanked (their own fault for not investing in building real customer support).

You have to understand the problem with the mini. Aside from some specific uses, it easily falls short as a value proposition. You may have to factor in a keyboard and mouse unless they're left over from an older purchase and still fully functional. You have to budget for a display which means either a separate vendor or a $1000 minimum sale. It also uses 2.5" drives which tend to be a little slower unless you're going with an SSD. The point is that upgrades can add up quickly. If you do anything where the gpu is a concern, you must buy a slightly upgraded model. Of course it's still starved on vram. At some point it becomes easier just to buy the base imac or a refurb given some of the small limitations that can lead you toward expensive upgrades.


If recent news is any indication most huge US PC makers are leaving the market to concentrate on server-mainframe-businesses, while Apple rakes a majority of the device market. The MacBook and iMac range seem safe in Apple's future, mini & Mac Pro not so much.

I for one will be happy once the ultrabook transition is over with the air range covering 11" to 13" (integrated graphics only) and the MB Pro at 15" (discreet GPU).

Don't believe everything you read. Regarding US manufacturers they're facing competition there too from ODPs, but overall selling big iron carries much higher margins. Many of the consumer models have been bid down to a level where margins are quite thin. Also regarding the percentage of revenue that is attributed to the Mac line, they're only looking at direct gains there. Macs are used for for development both by Apple and third parties, so they are needed to properly support IOS. Porting such tools to another platform would be incredibly costly, especially when the Mac line remains profitable. It's not like its profits shrunk. It has merely been outpaced by the idevices.
 
So it makes sense that they would give the macbook, which I would assume is to be used by non professionals, the retina display, and to then leave it out of the Pro focused device with a dedicated graphics card, in what universe exactly?

I'm thinking this isn't quite accurate...
 
If the rumors are true and the new MacBooks will not have an optical drive, then there will be little difference between 13" MBP, MBA and the new MB.

People will obviously just go with the cheapest.

I personally think Apple still needs a MB at around 800€. A sweet spot for many consumers. Maybe this MB will do the trick?
 
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