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No - it's because there was the old Siemens -> Infineon -> Intel Mobile -> Apple Mobile site at Neubiberg (Munich).
It's not in Neubiberg, it's in Karlstraße, behind Bayerischer Rundfunk and next to the truly horrible Spatenbräu complex.
 
I wonder if they went there because of the European Patent Office head quarters ?

Why would being near patent headquarters make a difference? If that were the case, Silicon Valley would be in Alexandria virginia.

You deal with the patent office electronically - there is no need to be in the same town.

And, if anything, Düsseldorf has a lot more patent activity going on than München.
 
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That's a great idea !

I spent a year working for Siemens Components in Cupertino, back before Apple bought-up the land for their new site.

They sent me to Munich all the time to work with the Engineers back there.

NOT ONLY is the Engineering talent top-notch in Munich, but when the weather is nice there, it's an absolutely fantastic place to be :cool:
 
I'm I the only one who is ZERO excited over 5G? I'm a Software Engineer but this sounds just like a lot of work, with zero excitement factor. Does anyone have a link/website to spark my interest in 5G?
 
I'm I the only one who is ZERO excited over 5G? I'm a Software Engineer but this sounds just like a lot of work, with zero excitement factor. Does anyone have a link/website to spark my interest in 5G?
The typical meme is 5G “will be indispensable at some point in the future”. How far in the future? Could be years.
 
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Munich is one of the Most expansive cities in Germany.
People w/ enough income love to live there.
Sure Apple has to pay high salaries.
If it's going to be a design canter, I would assume that they will paying high salaries for top design engineers.
 
It’s always nice to read of Apple investing in Europe.

I wonder how similar the experience is for employees if comparing, say, working in an EU Apple facility to working in a US Apple facility.
I'm sure they are well paid like here in the U.S. at the Apple headquarters and other design locations. Demanding job, but substantial compensation.
 
Seems I‘m the only one being totally unimpressed by Munich. Feeling like the typical Bavarian small town, blown out of proportion. Lots of people with a mix of village mind and snobbish-arrogant attitude. Even if I had the money, I’d rather live and work elsewhere.
 
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And with Apple paying high salaries, it will be even more difficult for normal people to live there.
This part.
When tech companies move in, it makes living difficult for the common guy.
Pick a city that hasn't had a rise in housing prices that correlates with tech moving in.
Gentrification is real in every part of the world.
 
Yeah, I don’t make it a habit to criticize cultures, but Munich? Really? Look past the beer and Wagner, it really is super provincial, and a lot of arrogant people hostile to those who are “too different”, the opposite of tolerant. But then again I’ve heard Germans from elsewhere complain about the village minded Bavarians, so it’s not just foreigners:)

Apple has to have a presence in Europe, so this makes sense. Ireland for manufacturing, Bavaria for design, UK for software. Now, where would they fit France and Italy :)?
 
Yeah, I don’t make it a habit to criticize cultures, but Munich? Really? Look past the beer and Wagner, it really is super provincial, and a lot of arrogant people hostile to those who are “too different”, the opposite of tolerant. But then again I’ve heard Germans from elsewhere complain about the village minded Bavarians, so it’s not just foreigners:)

Munich is not at all the same as provincial Bavaria, just like how e.g. Austin is not at all the same as provincial Texas.

Begins with ~40% of the population being first or second generation immigrants (that's about double the percentage of Berlin, for reference), and ends with people having elected politically left city councils and mayors in every election bar (I think) one for the last seventy years.

And that's not even mentioning the LGBTQ+ community with a long and important history, the vibrant bar scene that the rest of the country is always trying to catch up with, the Italian, Greek, Turkish, Croatian, … influences, and, generally, the many people from all over the country and world who live there who hardly make the place "hostile to those who are too different", because there's simply way too many people who weren't even born in the city for that to be a thing.

Maybe you're drawing your conclusions from some backwards suburb?
 
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Go to the smaller towns in Bavaria and then get back to me. And it’s not just down to the rural vs city divide, because the more rustic places up north, for example around Hamburg are not like that.
 
Go to the smaller towns in Bavaria and then get back to me. And it’s not just down to the rural vs city divide, because the more rustic places up north, for example around Hamburg are not like that.

I speak German but have never been to Germany. When I take my family for vacation after the pandemic, what are the best towns to visit?
 
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I speak German but have never been to Germany. When I take my family for vacation after the pandemic, what are the best towns to visit?
Hamburg (where I live) for its nice and compact city center and harbor.

Bamberg a lovely medieval town in Upper Franconia in the state of Bavaria.

A nice boat ride down the Rhein river in the south to see all the castles and beautiful small towns should be on your list.

In the east, you need to visit Dresden. So many beautiful places to see in Germany. Am from Brooklyn, NY and been living in Germany since 2003. Love it here.
 


Apple will make Munich its European Silicon Design Center, the company announced today. Work already being undertaken by Apple in Bavaria's capital is contributing to its custom Apple silicon designs, while the expansion, together with additional investment in R&D, will exceed 1 billion euros in the next three years.

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Apple says the new state-of-the-art facility will bring hundreds of new jobs to the area, which is already Apple's largest engineering hub in Europe, with around 1,500 engineers from 40 countries working in a variety of areas including power management design and application processors. The new facility will house employees who will focus on connectivity and wireless technologies.
The new, 30,000-square-meter facility is located in central Munich's Karlstrasse, and will be home to Apple's growing cellular unit, Europe's largest R&D site for mobile wireless semiconductors and software. Teams there will create 5G and future technologies, and focus on developing, integrating, and optimizing wireless modems for Apple products.

Apple plans to start moving into the new building in late 2022, and like all Apple offices globally, it will run entirely on 100 percent renewable energy.

Apple says it has spent over 15 billion euros with more than 700 companies of all sizes across Germany. This includes the chip manufacturer Infineon, battery company Varta, and the family-owned chemical company DELO, which is delivering resin for Face ID technology in products like the iPhone 12.

Article Link: Apple to Invest Over 1 Billion Euros in Munich Silicon Design Center
 
I wonder if they went there because of the European Patent Office head quarters ?
A major mistake by Apple choosing the EU. The EU are no friends of Apple, and quite frankly Apple should be wary of spending even a dollar under the auspices of the EU who simply cannot be trusted.

Apple will find to their cost that bureaucracy and despots will make it untenable.
 
Hamburg (where I live) for its nice and compact city center and harbor.

Bamberg a lovely medieval town in Upper Franconia in the state of Bavaria.

A nice boat ride down the Rhein river in the south to see all the castles and beautiful small towns should be on your list.

In the east, you need to visit Dresden. So many beautiful places to see in Germany. Am from Brooklyn, NY and been living in Germany since 2003. Love it here.
Indeed a beautiful country with really decent people, and I lived there for several months and the hospitality was second to none. Strange thing is people often suggest Germans do not have a sense of humour...far from it. Great people and some really beautiful places.
 
This is not for Apple Silicon it's for their modem silicon design …

But yes, they do need to add more office space outside the UK. From what I've heard, they've used their UK offices as the "waiting place" for engineers applying for an US visa. That no longer makes sense.
More likely the bully boy tactics of the EU convinced Apple to go there and they will drop the action against Apple. Soon see if they drop the action against Apple.
 
Hamburg (where I live) for its nice and compact city center and harbor.

Bamberg a lovely medieval town in Upper Franconia in the state of Bavaria.

A nice boat ride down the Rhein river in the south to see all the castles and beautiful small towns should be on your list.

In the east, you need to visit Dresden. So many beautiful places to see in Germany. Am from Brooklyn, NY and been living in Germany since 2003. Love it here.

what’s weird is that I, too, am originally from Brooklyn. (Let’s Go Mets!)
 
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A major mistake by Apple choosing the EU. The EU are no friends of Apple, and quite frankly Apple should be wary of spending even a dollar under the auspices of the EU who simply cannot be trusted.

Apple will find to their cost that bureaucracy and despots will make it untenable.

It make sense to have design centers in the places where the design engineers live.
 
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