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The difference is, everyone hated their phones, and no one apart from a few enthusiasts actually used them to do anything else but call and text, even though it was obvious that you could do so much more.

You know what. That sounds exactly like the state of home entertainment today. I hate setting up the myriad of cables, wires, speakers and everything else to get a result. The back of my cabinets look like a spaghetti factory explosion. I had my amplifier fixed a few weeks back. Setting it all back up again drove me to tears.

Apple enters markets that require simplification. You don't think the home entertainment market requires simplification?
 
Never going to happen.

This analyst hasn't a clue.

I agree that analysts typically don't know anything, the rumors are gaining traction a bit.

Jobs did not say he would not get into the TV business, he just was not happy with its current market strategy, and he said that it was more important to change the phone and tablet space. Now that that has been accomplished, it makes sense for Apple to finally take a stab at this market.

I do think this is in the Apple labs, but until Apple can revolutionize it, they will not dive in. This has to be something more than just a high end TV.
 
You know what. That sounds exactly like the state of home entertainment today. I hate setting up the myriad of cables, wires, speakers and everything else to get a result. The back of my cabinets look like a spaghetti factory explosion. I had my amplifier fixed a few weeks back. Setting it all back up again drove me to tears.

How could Apple get all those separate components to be hooked up any differently?

I feel your pain on the spaghetti mess, but I got a nice AV rack, segregated the cable by type - power, speaker, HDMI, etc - then tied them down the posts. It is so tidy that you can't see a single cable.

Cable ties FTW!
 
I still think at most it would be like a Nexus phone where Google partners with a company and oversees most of the design. While that wouldn't be terrible, I rather just see the Apple TV be built into TVs along with all the other apps they have on them such as Netflix and Pandora, ect ect.
 
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I like the idea of selling channels as apps (as was mentioned earlier). I'd ditch my cable provider in a heartbeat if I could... That's something Apple could revolutionize if they want. Gimme the channels I want... Nothing more, nothing less... Though I realize the networks and studios are different people and this would be quite the challenge...
 
Im thinking something like the Panny Z series...


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I like the idea of selling channels as apps (as was mentioned earlier). I'd ditch my cable provider in a heartbeat if I could... That's something Apple could revolutionize if they want. Gimme the channels I want... Nothing more, nothing less... Though I realize the networks and studios are different people and this would be quite the challenge...

I agree. App Channels would change everything, plus the networks would still make money. The problem would be that the cable and satellite companies would be furious.
 
You know what. That sounds exactly like the state of home entertainment today. I hate setting up the myriad of cables, wires, speakers and everything else to get a result. The back of my cabinets look like a spaghetti factory explosion. I had my amplifier fixed a few weeks back. Setting it all back up again drove me to tears.

Apple enters markets that require simplification. You don't think the home entertainment market requires simplification?

This.

Offer me a single device that delivers good audio-visual performance and access to media (iTunes, Netflix, etc.) without me having to deal with multiple components and hide dozen of cables...and purchase a Harmony remote in order to deal with all the complexity, and I will likely buy it. Also, after several highly unpleasant encounters with Samsung's customer support, I for one would much prefer to deal with Apple in this regard.
 
Any TV from apple will be a failure. Yes, the TV will have a quality build but they cannot price on the same level as vizio, samsung or sony. These companies have many models and are priced very aggressively from store to store.
They need to add more features to the apple tv at a affordable cost.
 
16 speakers - that is where you lost me. there is no way i could picture  making something like that. That would mean wires and specific locations.... nope that is totally not the way they do things. A surroundbar, maybe. But Apple likes the minimalist design.

You're right...good gawd, I wouldn't have room to place 16 speakers no matter how small. And the spaghetti of wires -- whatever you did with them -- would be a nightmare.

I think this alone proves that this is a bogus report, but again, this is a rumors site, so let's see.
 
How would you benefit from a higher resolution? :confused:

For a start, 720/1080p content would look horrible on it. Have you ever tried to watch a DVD on a 17" MacBook Pro? The content is stretched and it just looks bad.

I can't see any use for a resolution higher than 1080p when there is currently no content with a higher resolution than that.

I'd use it as a tv/computer monitor. Also, 1440p movies are not that far away, so a higher resolution display would be all ready for when that happens. That said, there are already displays that do this so I really don't see a market for an Apple HDTV.
 
6 grand for the ripoff Bose system. Shocking! lol!

You can make the same argument against Apple computers. For years PC enthusiasts have scoffed at the idea of paying a little extra for a brand computer that put more emphasis on form and function than specs and features. For all the talk about Bose systems' shortcomings by people who usually cannot afford them, they are great all-in-one, out-of-the-box systems that are far more inconspicuous than typical hi-fi systems. In my opinion the design philosophies of Bose and Apple are so comparable that a merging of these two companies would benefit them both and their users.
 
*Wires Free*
40" 480p black and white tv with 2 channels and you have to buy them.
 
You're right...good gawd, I wouldn't have room to place 16 speakers no matter how small. And the spaghetti of wires -- whatever you did with them -- would be a nightmare.

Take a deep breath and relax. Soundbars that look like single horizontal speakers that fit under most flat-panel televisions are comprised of multiple small speakers that a Digital Signal Processor utilises to simulate surround sound. Apple is not going to sell you 16 individual speakers.
 
You know what. That sounds exactly like the state of home entertainment today. I hate setting up the myriad of cables, wires, speakers and everything else to get a result. The back of my cabinets look like a spaghetti factory explosion. I had my amplifier fixed a few weeks back. Setting it all back up again drove me to tears.

Apple enters markets that require simplification. You don't think the home entertainment market requires simplification?

And how exactly could an Apple TV help you with that?
Do you expect them to get into the entire HiFi business too and introduce a wireless standard for everything that forces you to buy new speakers, receivers etc, or least a myriad of adapters for everything?

Next on the wish list: Apple cars and kitchen appliances.

As much as I understand your enthusiasm, Apple can't and won't make everything. They will make stuff they understand and most importantly, which has growth and profit-making potential. The TV market doesn't have that.
 
This.

Offer me a single device that delivers good audio-visual performance and access to media (iTunes, Netflix, etc.) without me having to deal with multiple components and hide dozen of cables...and purchase a Harmony remote in order to deal with all the complexity, and I will likely buy it. Also, after several highly unpleasant encounters with Samsung's customer support, I for one would much prefer to deal with Apple in this regard.


You obviously want something that defies the laws of physics. Have you actually thought about what you said? What exactly are most of these annoying components and cables used for? Right. SOUND. Amplifiers, speakers and such.

If it were possible to get a decent audio performance out of a TV, somone would have already built it, and it would be flying off the shelves. It might be possible in the future, but don't hold your breath.
 
and how exactly could an apple tv help you with that?
Do you expect them to get into the entire hifi business too and introduce a wireless standard for everything that forces you to buy new speakers, receivers etc, or least a myriad of adapters for everything?

Next on the wish list: Apple cars and kitchen appliances.

As much as i understand your enthusiasm, apple can't and won't make everything. They will make stuff they understand and most importantly, which has growth and profit-making potential. The tv market doesn't have that.

yes! :D
 
I see your point but I remember the same arguments being made when there were rumours of Apple releasing a mobile phone in 2006. "Why would they want to enter a saturated commodity market like that with such thin margins?"

Then look what happened.

Not to mention when there were rumors that Apple was coming out with "just another useless mp3 player"
 
I’m skeptical. But one thing I know: if the rumor doesn’t happen, and we get not one bit more evidence, we’ll still see headlines like:

Apple’s Expected HDTVs Scrapped! Assailed On All Sides, Mac-Maker’s “Next Big Thing” Flounders: Undisclosed Difficulties Proved Impossible to Overcome. The End of Apple’s “Magic”?

And if it does happen, but the remote control is a separate $9 option (because an iPod/iPhone is the best remote), everyone will moan that Apple is trying to “control you” by “not letting you” have a remote which they will, in fact, let you have. (Not unlike optional the DVD burner they’ll let you have with every Mac.)

:D
 
The apple tv hdtvs would be way over priced. The margins on these things are so low its not worth it.

Instead of $700 for a Vizio with built in apps and crappy interface, I'd be ridiculously willing to pay $900 or $1000 for an Apple TV with an interface the likes of what Apple designs. Not to mention the hardware design that will come with it. Many others will too. I mean, geez, we pay extra for computers, iphones, ipods, etc. Why wouldn't we shell out for a superior TV? And if they're bringing the tech of their monitors, they would be amazing. Apple has the best monitors I've used, hands down.

Sony TVs come at a premium. People are buying them up. So if the Apple TV has something extra. Some better way to interface with the net, your computer, etc. then it'd be a boom.
 
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