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How could Apple get all those separate components to be hooked up any differently?

I feel your pain on the spaghetti mess, but I got a nice AV rack, segregated the cable by type - power, speaker, HDMI, etc - then tied them down the posts. It is so tidy that you can't see a single cable.

Cable ties FTW!
Thunderbolt FTW! I don't see it happening anytime soon, but if they did, presumably Apple would minmize cabling. Right now, that means TB.
 
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Why do you have such a bone to pick with apple? I know your just trolling but it's getting old, go post your thoughts anti-apple else where.

That's not very nice. I have feelings too.
 
16 speakers - that is where you lost me. there is no way i could picture  making something like that. That would mean wires and specific locations.... nope that is totally not the way they do things. A surroundbar, maybe. But Apple likes the minimalist design.

Nope, the speakers would be within the unit, like the faux "surround sound" you find out at the moment. But as mentioned here, I'd like this system, with Apple TV built in, but god only knows how much apple would charge for it! If you take the monitors they have out at the moment it would be b***dy expensive and would be a non starter for me (and a lot of people). It would really only be the Bose type of people with 000's to throw away on a system that would by it.
 
Thunderbolt FTW! I don't see it happening anytime soon, but if they did, presumably Apple would minmize cabling. Right now, that means TB.

The trick is, Apple would have to convince the consumer electronics industry to adopt Thunderbolt. And even if they did, how does it really make anything different than HDMI?

HDMI allowed us to collapse three (composite/S-Video+two-channel analog ) or five (component+two-channel analog audio) or eight (component+five-channel discrete analog audio) cables into one cable, but every device still has an HDMI cable.

And such a TV likely would need to have some type of advanced built-in quality discrete sound reproduction system to obliviate the need for an external amplifier and multiple speakers around the room with their attendant cables.
 
Refresh Cycle

How will Apple be able to maintain refresh cycles for an Apple TV? I don't know about you guys but I keep most of my TV's for at least 5 years if not longer. Won't these things go obsolete fairly quickly if Apple adds all kinds of computer components? I'm not gonna buy a new TV every 2 years, not even every 4 years.
 
Meh...

No thanks, Apple. That is, if they dare to not include an ATSC tuner or two... or four.

It saddens me when I read comments disrespecting free over the air TV. I bought a HUGE antenna and a Silicondust HDHomerun two weeks ago because I was tired of the media giants raping my wallet. Now I am liberated. I get free HD from hundreds of miles away. It's great! No, I don't get "history channels" that rarely show history, or "music channels" that are no longer about music, or "learning channels" that no longer teach you anything, or "sci-fi channels" that no longer focus on sci-fi, but I get PBS, which is about the only thing worth watching these days anyway. Paired with the best home entertainment software out there - namely, Windows 7 Media Center - it's amazing. (Yes, I just said that.)

Oh, and BitTorrent...
 
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How will Apple be able to maintain refresh cycles for an Apple TV? I don't know about you guys but I keep most of my TV's for at least 5 years if not longer. Won't these things go obsolete fairly quickly if Apple adds all kinds of computer components? I'm not gonna buy a new TV every 2 years, not even every 4 years.

It's not like the TV will stop working after a certain amount of time. It will continue doing exactly what you bought it for just like any other TV
 
This particular rumor amuses me.

Apple changes the game with their software. For years the main complaint of television viewers is how clunky and convoluted the set-top-box guide is. Raise your hand if you're a Comcast customer and HATE the guide. If apple were to get into the TV game it would be to revolutionize the set-top-box. Imagine an AppleTV like interface that you used to control all your media - both TV channels as well as iTunes, and computers. This is something I'd buy.

I would not purchase a 46in 1080p 3D 240refresh TV from Apple - other manufacturers with far more experience would likely do a better job and offer it for less. But a set top box from Apple - YES please! (Of course, knowing Apple they'd integrate it right into the TV and I'd be forced to buy it!)
 
I'm curious what this rumored Apple TV might offer that the current ATV can't. Why does Apple think people will pay double the price for a TV (seems like most people here agree this is likely) when I can buy a Sony or Samsung and an ATV box for $100? The only thing limiting the current ATV is Apple and their unwillingness to open it up to third-party developers. Or will they discontinue the current ATV so that you don't have that option?
 
Change the game

Apple goes to market when it can change the game by packaging existing tech in a new way to create an ecosystem. Look for a full apple TV when they can roll out an app store (need to solve the controller issue) alongside the Siri/nuance virtual assistant technology. Television...on!
 
I think they would be better off trying the gaming market. That puts itunes under a lot of televisions if they get it to succeed this time around. Lots of money in that market.
 
Trip Chowdhry is an analyst...consequently there is no possible way he can be accurate. I'd trust an opinion piece of a journalist to be more accurate over all these so called 'analysts' who are only interested in pushing and pulling stocks for financial companies.
 
wow, I see this and think I clicked on www.sillymacrumors.com rather than www.macrumors.com :eek:

Unless Apple pioneers "televisions" that can be rolled up and stored in a poster tube, then I just can't see their Apple Stores having the location and square footage to get into the big box, big screen television business. There are a lot of product segments that Apple's time would be better spent reinventing. Sure, I was unhappy with:

1) my crappy Windows Computer (Macs w/ OS X)
2) my cumbersome Sony Walkman (iPod)
3) buying CD's (iTunes)
4) my idiotic Symbian and WinMo "smart" phonesj (iPhone)
5) mediocre, clunky and/or expensive attempts to deliver video to my television via the Internet (ATV2)

However I am very happy with my 1080p Samsung television.
 
The trick is, Apple would have to convince the consumer electronics industry to adopt Thunderbolt. And even if they did, how does it really make anything different than HDMI?
Who do they need to convince, of what? Build an AppleTV/CableModem connected to an Apple display with thunderbolt. But i still don't think it's likely.
HDMI allowed us to collapse three (composite/S-Video+two-channel analog ) or five (component+two-channel analog audio) or eight (component+five-channel discrete analog audio) cables into one cable, but every device still has an HDMI cable.

And such a TV likely would need to have some type of advanced built-in quality discrete sound reproduction system to obliviate the need for an external amplifier and multiple speakers around the room with their attendant cables.
Judging by their other products, Apple doesn't place a high priority on quality sound. All in one with built in speakers are more likely.
 
Apple as a TV manufacturer seem unlikely - perhaps more likely is that they would allow third party manufacturers (perhaps LG to begin with) to integrate the Apple TV electronics directly into their TVs. That endpoint would make a lot of sense - and it would explain the utilitarian design of the Apple TV as only an interim step - a device that is designed to hide in the background before disappearing inside the TV itself.


What does Apple Manufacture? I know they create the "GoldMaster" and farm out the various product parts needed to make the item and then has all those "parts" delivered to a manufacturer to put it all together, if I am not mistaken. So I was just curious, and not trying to be a smartazz or pick a fight, just asking... Know Apple is the brains behind the product but thought they had those end finished products produced by others. Like they may manufacture the A4 chip or A5 chip and soon A6 chip, but it is only a "part" that is one of many that will go to the iPhone or iPad or MacBook Air or whatever... But from start to finish (outside of their Operating System) what does Apple manufacture from beginning to end. Thanks. :confused:
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doubt it.

First ATV is not selling that well to justify and implementation on a HDTV set.

second, people keep their TV sets way longer than and other CE. So ATV would definitely gets obsolete way before the whole set.

Third, HDTV market is saturated with great products and very small profit margins.

Fourth, HDTV sets are huge and take lot's of warehouse space and high shipping/transportation costs, making very little sense for Apple to jump in since they can have way higher profit margins with other products taking much less space/cost.

This is just a quick glance on why makes no sense to create such a product. We are hearing these rumors for at least 7 years. I call it BS. ;)
 
It better be better then LED because the prices on HDTV's now have been reduced a lot.
 
I think a more interesting question to pose might be: At what will Apple hit their next big slump/hurdle? Ostensibly they could put a product like a TV set that could flop. I'm not talking about that though. I'm referring to their overall bottom line. There appears to be in no end in sight to their ever mounting success.
 
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16 speakers... Next thing they'll say is it's a 4D TV.
 
How could Apple get all those separate components to be hooked up any differently?

I feel your pain on the spaghetti mess, but I got a nice AV rack, segregated the cable by type - power, speaker, HDMI, etc - then tied them down the posts. It is so tidy that you can't see a single cable.

Cable ties FTW!

Apple could make it so there were zero wires except for power.
 
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