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Apple to Launch 4K 21.5-inch Retina iMac Next Week, iPad Pro in Early November
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Was just watching Black Mirror s02e01 and the main character was drawing with bended touch screen. Reminded me that bending oleds are coming. Why won't they be touch sensitive? Just like official Apple opinion was with pens on touch screen, same thing goes with "computer UI can't have touch screen". Until Apple makes one. I think we can all agree that modern computer OS has to have all user interfaces in a few years. So osX will have to have touch screen interface or it will will become obsolete.
Pretty long it has been repeated that Apple is a hardware company. But for macs not much longer now. Apple will very soon get more revenue and profits from selling content and software than from macs. And this naturally shows in advancing the tech in macs. Doesn't matter financially, so why rush?
Pretty long it has been repeated that Apple is a hardware company. But for macs not much longer now. Apple will very soon get more revenue and profits from selling content and software than from macs. And this naturally shows in advancing the tech in macs. Doesn't matter financially, so why rush?
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Well, it is half-announced. There is Still no trace on apple.com, but if you go on http://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/imac you will see this:
I guess they will finalize it today.
I guess they will finalize it today.
mouse = legacy
touch = future
hybrid = no-future
Better to live in the past than having no future. A true hybrid device between the past and the future would surely unravel the very fabric of the space-time continuum and destroy the whole universe. Fortunately it is impossible to create such a device. The future of computing can not double as it's own past. Microsoft Surfaces are laptops with detachable keyboards, not tablets. If they were true tablets, they wouldn't work as laptops.
Indeed, what a bummer. Now the keyboard comes with an expiration date. Is this why it is called magic?
I don't know. I use rechargeable batteries for my Apple Keyboard. It's good enough because I can swap batteries and continue work. And Magic Mouse 2 is just lame. No upgrade there.
4k with Broadwell, 5k with Skylake!!!!
4GHz i7 Skylake will be even worse toaster than current Haswell. I really hope they've upgraded heat dispatching..
4GHz i7 Skylake will be even worse toaster than current Haswell. I really hope they've upgraded heat dispatching..
Oddly, they don't count hybrids like the Surface Pro so the stats are somewhat misleading.
Why would it? They gave out a free upgrade to Windows 10 for all Vista to Win8 users. That means you don't need a new computer. Again, as usual, your logic simply doesn't function at all.
Again, they don't count the Surface as a traditional PC so as per usual, your conclusions are just plain wrong.
I don't know where you get your fictional statistics from, but Apple Mac sales were down 3.4% compared to last year (or up 1.5% if you believe the as always overly optimistic Gartner report; either way your 9% up figures belong in a fan-fiction comic book story):
http://www.techtimes.com/articles/9...wn-but-other-pc-makers-are-even-worse-off.htm
Honestly, you spout so much fiction, you should really visit a fantasy writing forum or something instead. So much for you "winning" except in your dreams.
No, apparently in yours.
That has to be the most absurd thing I've read yet from you. Touch is the future, yet you blindly support every move Apple makes when it doesn't want touch at all in its real computers (i.e. non-toys). So either you're saying real computing is dead and the future is all toys or you're contradicting yourself. Either way it's wrong.
Touch has its uses, but no touch-toy is going to replace traditional computing. There will always be a need for some people to have a keyboard and mice aren't going anywhere when touch-pads are limited in what they can do (especially for FPS gaming which is superior with a mouse/keyboard than any controller or touch device made). No, the future is largely going to be in intuitive VOICE control (and one day in the future mind control). Voice can never completely replace traditional input methods just like touch cannot, but it will be a VERY important part of the future. Mind Control one day may make all current input methods obsolete, but we're a long ways off.
Again Voice Control (ala Siri) is something Apple came out with before Microsoft, but now Microsoft is running with it while Apple is still stalled back at the gate! Siri should have been in El Capitan! A desktop has way more CPU power to do voice command on its own and usually faster connectivity for a network solution. In other words, Siri would work FAR better on the desktop than on a phone. No, they let Microsoft get there first with Cortana in Windows 10 and now it's time for them to play catch-up as usual and as I've been saying all along.
That has to be one of the most ridiculous things I've ever read in my entire life. Since when do YOU decide WTF a "true tablet" is??? Give me a break!
Real computing is dead and mobile computing is the present for the vast majority of consumers. Most people never even started with real computing. It was always something for the Nerds like us.
It happened a long while ago, when iPhone sales surpassed Mac sales. Traditional computing is now niche computing.
The Gaming-PCs of the future go by the name PS4 and XB1.
Don't make things up. A simple appliance like an Apple TV might be controlled by voice, but that's about it.
Present. The 4K Apple TV might still be in the future, but the voice controlled Apple TV isn't. And it works only because the range of voice commands is limited to controlling the TV.
Siri-gate! I do not care at all about Siri on the Mac or Cortana on Windows. It can't replace the speed and precision of keyboard and mouse/trackpad for real computing. Microsoft now just throws everything at the wall to see what sticks. They have no idea what might work and what might not, so they hybridize everything with everything. That is precisely the reason, why I have left the platform. I did not want my desktop OS to be tabletized and voicetized.
No, it shouldn't have been in El Cap and CPU power has nothing to do with it. It's all about use cases and they do not exist. You can take a call and dictate text already and for the rest it's way better to use a keyboard.
In other words, only because phone keyboards are so small and give no haptic feedback, Siri is an alternative for quick commands at all. A real keyboard with shortcuts will always be quicker and more accurate. And if Siri never is the best option on a Mac, it's better not to add it.
Stop your ketchup ******** already. Apple will not make a hybrid OS, Apple will not bring the pencil to the iPhone and Apple will never add Siri to the Mac. Siri exists since the iPhone 4s, if Apple thought this would be any useful on a Mac, they would have done it years ago. Nobody is playing catch-up with you.
I don't give you a break and I don't decide anything. I'm always only talking about undeniable computer scientific facts, not opinions. The tablet as a successful product category inherits all its defining properties from smartphone OSes. The Surface is a Tablet-PC, as introduced in 2002 by Bill Gayes with "Microsoft XP Tablet PC Edition". A Tablet PC is not a tablet, it's just another form factor of a PC -- desktop, laptop, tablet, but all still only PCs. Real tablets like smartphones are easy to use for everybody and his mother, there isn't much context to understand, just into the app and out off the app. No drag and drop, no filesystem, no process management by the enduser. The iPad does everything automatically and that's why it hasn't failed like so many attempts before. It doesn't matter if Microsoft calls them Slates or Surfaces, they all remain mere PCs in disguise.
Was real computing dead in the 1980s when the ONLY people using computers were so-called "nerds" ? I used them back then and I use them now. The only difference is that the general public started using "computers" (read smart phones) to text each other and socialize and play the occasional game of Angry Birds or Candy Crush Saga. That does not make them nor has it ever made them "real computer" users. The fact many have bought a desktop at some stage in their life to use at school or for their kids to use or whatever doesn't change the fact they are not "computer users" of the type we speak. The only difference in your view is that they somehow represent "the market" or "the users" or "the future" of computing. No, they are smart phone users and that's all they ever will likely be.
Yes, smart phone and tablet type users represent a LARGE market, but these people aren't going to want a real computer (mobile or otherwise) PERIOD in the future. That doesn't mean there isn't a large market for "real" computers even so and I maintain that the type of computer user that bought a computer in the 1980s and 1990s is the type of user that still wants a REAL computer in 2015! There are undoubtedly plenty of people in-between as well that sometimes want to use more powerful computing options but spend most of their time on smart phones or tablets. Hybrids hold plenty of appeal to these types. You don't believe it, but gauging by how newer/better versions of Surface are really starting to take off, I'd say you are simply plugging your ears and going "la la la la" to reality.
Traditional computing was ALWAYS "niche" computing. The socialites simply found their new preferred device. They used phones before and now they use smarter phones. These are not and really never have been a real computer user. That's what some of you don't seem to get. Stop mistaking non-computer literate types using a smart phone for a "computer user" in the traditional sense. Those of us that actually ARE "computer users" still want and always have wanted a "real computer". Some of us may also have smart phones but that doesn't mean we don't want a powerful real computer also. The fact we don't buy a new model every other month doesn't mean the market is gone. Market pundits confused an initial burst of iPad sales for the death of the traditional PC, but now that everyone who wanted an iPad has one, their sales are quickly "drying up" also. Does that mean no one wants a tablet? No. It means people don't feel the need to replace their tablet every year like a phone because it's not a damn phone!
Yeah, I heard that same argument in the early 1980s with Colecovision and later Nintendo. The C64, Amiga and PC still had plenty of games. XBox and Playstations have been out in one form or another for decades and PC Gaming is still going strong. A console has the advantage of stable hardware, but it has the disadvantage of LOOONG hardware cycles (i.e. it's out of date the moment it comes out) whereas the PC is continually updated and has better controller support (keyboard, mouse, joystick, virtual reality headsets soon, etc.) Your "future" is just another market and another market niche. PC Gaming is going nowhere except maybe to Steam boxes instead of just the PC.
You're one to talk.
Yeah, I imagined Cortana in Windows 10. I imagined that most people can't type properly and would prefer to dictate emails and the like if it were accurate. There's a reason Star Trek had voice control in all of its iterations. PROPER voice control is faster than any form of typing or GUI clicking for many types of activities. I'm in no way saying voice control will supplant all other forms of input. I AM saying that a computer OS in the future that has no voice control input options is going to be obsolete and the same largely applies to touch support in the long run as mobile catches up more and more with desktop capabilities. Having Windows 10 sitting there with all possible input options while OS X is running with one hand tied around its back definitely gives Windows 10 the flexible edge and will make OS X look archaic in the long run as voice control and GUIs only improve their support for newer input options.
Now you're contradicting Apple themselves that obviously see value in having Siri control AppleTV functions. What's easier to do? "Type" with a couple of awkward buttons on a remote for a search in AppleTV or just speak what you're looking for? What's safer to use in a car environment? Having to look and touch a flat screen in the car to find a song or just telling the car what song you want while keeping your eyes on the road? Sorry, but voice control is not going away in the future and OS X should have had it by now, at least for basic controls like iTunes and Spotlight searches.
First of all, you need to learn the difference between what YOU care about and what the market cares about. They aren't going to always be the same thing. Secondly, it's not meant to "replace" but to SUPPLEMENT! The "edge" goes to Microsoft right now in that area (probably why they called their new browser that as well since rewriting from scratch has given it an edge in speed).
And Apple does NOTHING and lets everyone else figure out what "sticks" in the mean time, leaving them behind and making OS X less and less relevant by the day. OS X used to have a lot of features Windows did not have (e.g. Spaces) and now that Microsoft has added all those positive features AND made new ones of its own it is OS X that is starting to look long in the tooth. El Capitan adds Metal. What is that but DirectX competition? But Apple has a history of doing things half-heartedly when it comes to video drivers and the like and so I don't expect Metal to be kept up-to-date anymore than they bothered to keep OpenGL up-to-date in the long run. Apple has gone from innovation yet ignoring some market segments to playing catch-up and not innovating in hardly ANY segments. Sorry, but the Apple pencil isn't going to cut it (and Steve hated the stylus) when Wacom has had incredible stylus operations for its drawing tablets for years. It's not innovation. It's playing catch-up again. They didn't even design the iPad Pro to hold the stylus so it's even more likely to just get lost (the #1 reason Steve hated them).
You better look to Linux, then. Apple is playing catch-up, but they will eventually do the same. It's inevitable as the markets continue to merge between tablet and notebook. What is a tablet, after all, but a desktop without a keyboard? Keyboards aren't friendly to the masses. They don't know how to type. Touch and voice control ARE masses friendly. You want to sell more traditional computers? You have to make them more appealing to the masses. Otherwise, you're just selling the core computer "nerd/techie" market that has always existed and will likely always exist. Touch and Voice are about making computers more appealing to the masses in general and making life easier for everyone. Whether you like it personally or not is irrelevant. You are clearly not in that market fold whether you like it or not.
Correction. It's better for you and me that know how to type to use a keyboard. People who "peck" or "touch" type are probably FAR better off with a voice interface. My dad can't even manage a one sentence email without spending 10 minutes on it and it's still not spelled right. He'd be better off with a voice interface for such things.
Oh please. Siri is inevitable and it's clear to me you are simply in denial about the future direction of computing. These things won't be added because they're "necessary" to us computer techies, but because they hope to sell more computers to the masses. Those "computers" will increasingly be disguised and repackaged to appeal to those markets and as mobile CPUs catch-up to desktop ones in the long run, the only difference between the two will be the interfaces applied to a given situation. The underlying OS will serve both and select the most appropriate methods of communication for a given function. You wouldn't use a keyboard to make a phone call and you wouldn't draw with a mouse when you can use a "pencil/stylus".
Just as I said in my post ("They're making money so Apple is right 100% of the time!!!" ). The "fans" (fan means fanatical) are predictable as the tides.
Back in the days real computing was mainframe computing and the new personal computer was touted for it's user friendly desktop UI and relative mobility. The same reasons why touch computing is killing desktop computing now.
Steve Jobs (1983): The late 70ies, IBM dismisses the personal computer as too small to do "serious computing" and unimportant to their business.
And because normal people don't want them, real computing is about to shrink into a niche market.
That's exactly what it means.
No they don't. Hybrids are a misunderstanding, they will fade away like Netbooks.
Surprise me with Microsoft Surface sales numbers and I will counter with Netbook sales from 2010. Hybrids and Netbooks are both mere transition devices to the post-PC era. But they aren't part of that era themselves, because they are still fancy PCs.
Netbook to die off 2015, says iSuppli - The netbook was just a transition device to the post-PC era. In retrospect, Apple's iPad was the meteor that forced netbooks into extinction.
It means the tablet will always remain a secondary device to the smartphone, which is the new center of computing. Just as desktops are secondary to laptops and most apps and websites are optimized for smaller laptop screens.
Because it is a science fiction show and doesn't bother to solve actual science problems. Star Trek also has unlimited clean energy and no need to work for money.
Proper voice control is PURE fiction!
A keyboard-less device with limited functionality.
Voice Control is going to stagnate in it's development as it has done for decades now. Much like the electric car isn't going to overtake combustion engine cars in energy density and driving range.
Apple did NOTHING but inventing iPhone and iPad.
It's not a feature, it's a bug. Spaces make computing more complicated, you need to remember a lot of cognitive context to use them. iPads are better for not having Spaces.
DirectX doesn't work on smartphones, so no competition.
And without a file system, process manager, mouse pointer, dramatically less weight and size, wireless peripherals and connections, GPS navigation, fingerprint scanner and not to mention a touch screen.
Not if you don't leave out all the other stuff. If you combine everything in a hybrid device, you end up with a device that is more complicated than the sum of it's parts.
Funny how the Mac market share is growing without the inevitable Siri integration. Also no floppy drive, no optical drive and just one USB-C port. Apple is doomed.
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