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Nope, that's Apples jobs to fix AutoCorrect and make it work reliably in a dual language environment.

You can't take responsibility for anything you say, can you? :rolleyes:

You pointed out nothing about the future. You're so-called problems are just things Apple always made different and became the biggest company doing so.

I pointed out nothing about the future? Did you even read a single one of my posts or did you just skip over everything in your rush to "win the argument" without even understanding what the argument was about? The only thing I've heard from you (other than Apple is the most awesome company to ever exist) is PROFITS. But then isn't profits what drove Volkswagen to cheat on its emission tests? I mean being competitive is one thing, but when desire for power, money and control override benevolence to mankind bad things tend to happen.... And yes I have the same problem with US Corporate greed. It's leading this country down a very bad road indeed.

That already happened with iOS 7.

Oh please. Comparing iOS7 with Vista.... iOS versions come out every year. Vista was a bane for years on end. You've still got over 50% of Windows users on XP and it's ancient. Besides, Android hasn't been a perfect example either and that has insulated Apple from some of the shortcomings. Besides, Apple is making their profits on high prices not large market share.

My point all along has been they did the same thing in the 1980s and 1990s and it nearly ruined the company. When your market share runs dry, the profitability suddenly dies quickly and suddenly. Large market share may have slow profits some quarters, but the market itself is still there to sell a new product to. If Apple's share drops below 10%, they are going to start having problems. They are already well below 20% at this stage and 20% was where the Mac originally was profitable. It's when its share dropped below 10% that is started having problems and when it dropped below 6% it was all but dead. The fact Microsoft can have such utterly AWFUL products such as Vista and Windows 8 (and other than Office, it was their only REAL product) and survive without any real stress is a testament that market share MATTERS.

And the "Snow" and "Mountain" versions of OS X, that's their way of saying we screwed up last time let's change the name of Windows again.

It's a "myth" that Snow Leopard didn't have problems. Like most releases of OS X, it's a virtual disaster when it first came out. It was unusable until about 10.6.4. And Leopard was damn near perfect by its last version (no issues on my PPC server I used up until 2012 with it). The only truly awful versions of OS X were Lion and Yosemite, but even Lion was stable by its last version. Yosemite was/is slow. Ugly is its' true crime, though and that crime continues. :D

What are people using instead of tablets? Bigger iPhones, smaller MacBooks? Apple has you covered either way.

If you want to get down to it, all "most" people really do with these devices is text. Perhaps Apple should concentrate on improving the texting experience if they want to grow because that's all the iZombies of the world really do anymore. They even walk in front of buses they're so busy texting and cause accidents on the freeway.

You're excused nobody expected deeper knowledge from you. I'm surprised you didn't came up with Hitler.

You don't know what I know about Germany. You act like beer and pretzels is an insult. I'm quite fond of Bavaria. I took years of German in college. I admire most German engineering (Volkswagens' antics being an exception). But politics is another issue. The US may have a corrupt government run by idiots like Ted Cruz, but our freedoms aren't so limited by threat of prison that we can't have red blood in video games or mock a Nazi salute without being thrown into jail. One extreme to another....

How about a variable display scan rate, increased when using the pencil to further reduce lag, while maintaining battery life when not working with the pencil. Or a four speakers system with balanced sound depending on how you're holding the iPad Pro.

So now four speaker sound and variable data rates are innovations? :rolleyes:

I give you Surround Sound (been around for 30+ years) and MP3s (AAC as well) have had variable data rates for a long time.

Steve Jobs hated the stylus, BTW. The fact Apple is offering one now shows it's not Steve Jobs' Apple anymore.

You don't have to reinvent the wheel every year to be innovative. A Wacom graphics tablet is an input device to a PC. It's not a tablet computer in and off itself.

No and Apple didn't invent touch-screen computers either. My grandfather's old Buick Reatta had a touch-screen computer control system (a lot like today's cars) clear back in 1988! (so much for Apple's Carplay)

Personally, I thought it was cool at first, but when I actually got to drive it, I realized what a danger touchscreens are to driving or walking because you have to LOOK at them to see WTF you're doing whereas traditional climate and radio controls, etc. can be managed purely by feel. And if that touchscreen died, you'd lose climate control, stereo control, etc. in one package. So what is Apple and others doing today? They're putting touchscreen controls in cars again. It's a deadly mistake. People need to keep their eyes on the road. Then there's the "hacking" issue of computers controlling cars and putting it on the Internet. I'd prefer more traditional driver controls where I don't have to worry about a hacker turning off my brakes.

Something Apple's MacBook Pro chooses not to do. It is fine to be the best notebook it can be and doesn't pursue to be a hybrid of two other devices.

It doesn't need to be a "hybrid" OS. Apple could have allowed iOS to run separtely in emulation (same as the developer kits) so people could take advantage of iOS Apps and games on the Mac from Day 1. But no no no. That would rob Apple of the option of selling you another device even if you don't need it. Similarly, a reversible Macbook that could function as an iPad would be a great boon for some applications. The same as a separate iPad? No, it would weigh more. But it would mean carrying one device instead of two. But again, why sell one when you can rip people off instead? iPads are already declining in sales and there's no real market for the iPad Pro (OS X would be more useful on that device than iOS and as much as it costs, you might as well offer a Surface Book instead).

It is Microsofts failure to establish a successful smartphone OS, which forces the old company to address the tablet market with hybrid devices.

A tablet computer is not a phone. You seem to be confusing products once again or trying to change the argument, I'm not sure which.

Apple could start making hybrid devices any day, but Microsoft can't make real ARM-based tablets, because it doesn't have the support of third party app developers, developers, developers, developers, developers

Why would they need to use ARM? Are you even aware of the recent advances in CPU architecture? Not only does Intel have new lower power real CPUs (instead of these toy ones that are 10 generations behind Intel in power) but carbon nanotubes are the future. If Apple were smart, they'd be working with IBM right now who has the patented tech on functional nanotube technology. Intel's days are numbered if it can't find its own way of working with it because they can't just copy IBM and if IBM won't license it... goodbye Intel.

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No, it doesn't. Bigger screens was all Samsung had as a competitive advantage. Since the iPhone 6 Samsung saw several quarters with declining operating profits. And just now profits come back, not with selling their own phones, but with the production of more and more Apple-designed ARM chips.

You don't seem to know much about Samsung products, phones or market share. There you are focused on a single quarter of profits rather than the big picture. It's that myopic view of the world that doomed Apple in the 1990s. It's the same view that can doom them again if they don't look any further ahead than you are doing.

And since the Mac became the most profitable brand without gaming, we can conclude that raw graphics power isn't related to success in the market.

Ah, the "games don't matter" argument. Once again, it's all about "well they make money making sprockets, so why should they bother with cogs". Again, there's more to life than just profits. You can be an accountant and make profit all day long. But it's a flipping BORING way to live.

Sorry to spoil your dreams. You're wrong again and can't win an argument.

It's utterly SAD that you think there's an argument to "win". You remind me of people that were in the debate club in high school and college. Everything was an argument to "win" (sadly they weren't as good at is they thought just like you) rather than an opportunity to LEARN. You are like a broken record trying to find just the right words to "win" the argument rather than learn the lesson. I'm not in a horse race here with you. I'm trying to educate you on what matters in life and long term viability and you're playing the part of the good little Apple cheerleader instead. Sorry, but I already own Apple products. I know what Apple is and I know what it was under Jobs and it's not the same company. No matter how much you want to fool yourself, neither Tim Cook or Johnny Ive are Steve Jobs.

Yes it is, first up nobody came up with another perfect looking UI, so UI design is kind of a strength of Apple. And then you can't stick with the old look forever, no matter how beautiful it is, at some point you have to modernize. Which went rather successful with OS X, not so with iOS.

"Modernize" shouldn't mean UGLY. Following "flat trends" is FOLLOWING. Apple should be leading, not following. But that's been my point all along. You confuse "profits" with leadership.
 
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You're peddling Windows and Samsung evangelism to the wrong crowd, guy.

I'm consistently amazed how fanatical types can't see past a single post. Do you see how long I've been around on these forums? Have you read any of my posts over the years? Your attempt to paint me as some kind of Microsoft lover is hilarious. I'm simply not driven by PURE ZEAL like some on here. When Apple does something stupid I call them on it and I don't ignore a great product by another company just because I have some kind of BLIND LOYALTY to a company that like all Corporations are ultimately driven by GREED. Sadly, some Apple "fans" have proven themselves incapable of independent thought over the years. I have no use for them either.

Why DO you own any Apple products, with as much as you hate them?

Who said I hated Apple products? Your zeal for finding a straw man to express your inexplicable anger over what you perceive as an insult to your object of worship doesn't impress me.

on that, you've judged Apple to be falling behind. Maybe. But more likely you're just full of crap.

Ah, more emotional outpouring of insults and hatred. So typical of fanaticism....

Oh, by the way, the least you can do is spell Jonny Ive's name properly. Come on!

LOL. I wouldn't do the man the honor of spelling his name right. He's been utterly incompetent in the GUI department and has an ego a mile high. Just look at Yosemite. I prefer Johnny Five, but most of you are too young to remember Short Circuit.

How, oh, how can I make it through my day when my OS's sleep tokens don't work to your satisfaction?!?!?

They don't work at all with NFS. Oh, but YOU don't use NFS so it doesn't matter if it's broken. It's all about YOU, after all. Only YOU matter. :rolleyes:
 
No it's not. When you narrow down the SplitView area it changes from iPad UI to iPhone UI. For example in the Safari app, when there is enough space in width all the controls are in the top bar. But when there is not enough space the address bar stays alone on top and the buttons move to the bottom. Just like the app would look on an iPhone..
Anyway, it's just an iOS UI.
A Wacom pencil works with a Wacom graphics tablet. It doesn't work on the screen of an iMac or MacBook. And for a good reason, these screens don't lie flat on a table, but stand vertically. In this situation a pencil or touch input is uncomfortable and useless. So naturally Apple won't add a Touch UI to OS X.
Try again: Cintiq.
(You really can't be not understanding that you can use osX UI with a pen as good as with mouse or trackpad, can you?)
 
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My point all along has been they did the same thing in the 1980s and 1990s and it nearly ruined the company. When your market share runs dry, the profitability suddenly dies quickly and suddenly. Large market share may have slow profits some quarters, but the market itself is still there to sell a new product to. If Apple's share drops below 10%, they are going to start having problems.
Oh that "prediction", my rebuttal was that higher prices and low market share are only a problem, if your products aren't desirable. Remember BMW has a market share of 2.5% in global passenger cars. The Apple of today is not the Apple of the 80ies and that's all you need to know, to throw your ideas in the trash. History doesn't repeat. And large market shares are not sustainable without profits. I mentioned Nokia to refute that argument. You can not win, facts stand against you.
They are already well below 20% at this stage and 20% was where the Mac originally was profitable.
The Mac is highly profitable, because it is it's own market independent from cheap Windows PCs. People who buy Ferrari might switch to Lamborghini but not to Ford. Apple owns the market for quality computing.

Apple has 91% of market for $1,000+ PCs, says NPD
It's when its share dropped below 10% that is started having problems and when it dropped below 6% it was all but dead.
Except that's only true in your fantasy. In fact Apple is winning over switchers from Android. Because the market is still growing fast against dumb phones worldwide, it's easy to ignore how Android loses all the profitable customers to Apple. Read this:

Asymco – The new switchers
During the last quarterly earnings call, Tim Cook said that Apple has seen the highest switching rate from Android ever. That there is switching isn’t surprising. We’ve seen many surveys which show higher loyalty with iOS than with Android. ... If we look at the last six months’ data we can count that there are about 8.2 million more Americans using iPhones than there were six months ago. ... It’s much more likely that Apple converts existing smartphone users while Android converts first-time users.

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The first car in your life is always going to be ******, because you don't have much money and everything is better than walking. Your second car is going to be better and you look for quality not only lowest price. That's when the car companies come in, who actually want to make money not market share. Google doesn't care about smartphones, all they want is people to see their adds.
The fact Microsoft can have such utterly AWFUL products such as Vista and Windows 8 (and other than Office, it was their only REAL product) and survive without any real stress is a testament that market share MATTERS.
Microsoft is dying. The future and very much the present is all about mobile computing and Microsoft outright failed to establish it's own mobile OS. (Windows & OS X) dwarf against (Android & iOS). Only Apple is present in both markets because it created both of them. Apple takes in 45% of the profits with 5% market share in desktop computing. Their market share in mobile computing is much higher and growing in the one key market US of A.
You don't know what I know about Germany. You act like beer and pretzels is an insult. I'm quite fond of Bavaria.
Bavaria is an insult to Germany.
So now four speaker sound and variable data rates are innovations? I give you Surround Sound (been around for 30+ years) and MP3s (AAC as well) have had variable data rates for a long time.
Surround Sound means there are speakers in front of and behind of your head. That's not possible with a tablet. VBR is a technique of data compression and has nothing to do with sound balancing. You don't understand nothing, do you?
Steve Jobs hated the stylus, BTW. The fact Apple is offering one now shows it's not Steve Jobs' Apple anymore.
Steve Jobs ridiculed the stylus as input for a smartphone and Apple does not offer that now. They do not sell a Samsung Note competitor. Apple also ridiculed hybrid devices and while the iPad Pro has a stylus, it's still 100% tablet and 0% PC. The company hasn't changed that much and also Steve wasn't infallible. He embraced thinking different.
No and Apple didn't invent touch-screen computers either.
And the Brothers Wright didn't invent propeller-driven aircraft either. The aero engines existed, the wing profiles existed. They just made the whole think fly steerable. If Apple isn't the inventor of the smartphone then nobody ever invented anything. This one invention was enough to keep the company growing for the next 20 years till at least 2027.
It doesn't need to be a "hybrid" OS. Apple could have allowed iOS to run separtely in emulation (same as the developer kits) so people could take advantage of iOS Apps and games on the Mac from Day 1.
Running in emulation is a great recipe for bad performance and short battery life. Thank you, I rather buy two separate devices. By the way, the Microsoft Surface Book almost costs as much as two devices. There is no benefit.
But no no no. That would rob Apple of the option of selling you another device even if you don't need it. Similarly, a reversible Macbook that could function as an iPad would be a great boon for some applications.
No it wouldn't. Thank god you're not the head of product development at Apple. Go to Microsoft or Samsung and invent the refrigerator that doubles as an oven. Being able to do two things badly isn't better than making one thing great.
But it would mean carrying one device instead of two.
Then don't carry two. MacBook and iPad are both multi-purpose computers, either one can compute everything you want. Just choose!
A tablet computer is not a phone. You seem to be confusing products once again or trying to change the argument, I'm not sure which.
Both share one platform programmers are developing against. The success of an tablet OS depends heavily on the success of it's corresponding phone OS counter part. The failure that is Microsoft Phones prohibits the existence of Microsoft Tablets. Redmond is unable to make real tablets, all they can do is make so-called hybrid devices which are in fact Tablet-PCs. They can't make the real thing, because of lag of third party developer support.
Why would they need to use ARM? Are you even aware of the recent advances in CPU architecture?
It's already too late. Android has sucked up the market for iDevice alternatives. Even if INTEL Core-M processors are now capable to run fanless machines, mobile devices will stick with ARM. Reason number one, to remain compatible with all the software written since 2007. But number two, to not become dependent on INTEL ever again. ARM chip design is licensable and you can build it in your own factories at your own costs.

Once there was something called the WINTEL monopoly, meaning almost every PC would need to have software from Microsoft and hardware from Intel. So these two companies sucked up most of the profits in the entire computer market. Both monopolies missed the transition to mobile computing and became increasingly irrelevant since 2007. No hardware manufacturer will return to dependency on Intel, if there is any way to avoid it.
It's utterly SAD that you think there's an argument to "win".
Not for you. There is no argument to win, because you are wrong.
I'm trying to educate you on what matters in life and long term viability and you're playing the part of the good little Apple cheerleader instead.
You're being stupid and stubborn and the one who refuses to learn. The only way knowledge can flow is from me to you, young padawan. You've displayed no insight in matters of life whatsoever.
Sorry, but I already own Apple products. I know what Apple is and I know what it was under Jobs and it's not the same company. No matter how much you want to fool yourself, neither Tim Cook or Johnny Ive are Steve Jobs.
Which I never even suggested might be the case. You want to wright off the whole company only because the founder is dead? Fine, but don't think you're very smart because of that. Bill Gates will soon be dead too and left the company already, so there you go ...
 
(You really can't be not understanding that you can use OS X UI with a pen as good as with mouse or trackpad, can you?)
Steve Jobs in his own words:

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"We've done tons of user testing on this, and it turns out it doesn't work.
Touch surfaces don't want to be vertical.
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It gives great demo but after a short period of time, you start to fatigue
and after an extended period of time, your arm wants to fall off.
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It doesn't work, it's ergonomically terrible.
Touch surfaces want to be horizontal, hence pads.
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For a notebook, that's why we're perfected our multitouch trackpads over the years,
because that's the best way we've found to get multitouch into a notebook.
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We've also, in essence, put a trackpad - a multitouch track pad on the mouse with our magic mouse.
And we've recently come out with a pure play trackpad as well for our desktop users.
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So this is how were going to use multitouch on our Mac products
because this (he points at someone touch laptop screen) doesn't work."

You may disagree with him (them), but don't pretend they didn't make their stand clear. It's still a vertical touch screen and Apple won't make one. A mouse moves horizontally, it's movements are only indirectly translated into a vertical pointer movement. A pencil or finger on a vertical touch screen is something completely different.​
 
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Not for you. There is no argument to win, because you are wrong.

You're being stupid and stubborn and the one who refuses to learn.

No you're just fanatical and have a huge ego that couldn't admit he was wrong in a million years if you could live that long even when you're 100% wrong. But this isn't even about right and wrong in much of the thread. It's about different opinions, but to you anyone who has a different opinion from you is "stupid" and "wrong". You must get along with your coworkers great (if you even have a job). I won't waste any more time with you. You can rant and rave all day long if you so desire.

Oh and I'll be sure and visit Bavaria. It's clearly the best part of Germany (since you don't like it). I'll pick up a BMW while I'm there (you can have Volkswagen). ;)
 
I'm waiting, gift cards ready, for the new Apple mouse.
I hope its released as the article mentioned.

I'd like that too, but I don't see them refreshing all those peripherals quietly. If we know anything it is how much they like to get on a stage and tell us something has twice the click power... ;)
 
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See, you lost the argument.

Yeah, keep telling yourself that in the mirror. It's all you know how to do. ;)

Your definition of "winning" is to keep posting endless messages until the other guy stops posting and then declare yourself the "winner". :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
 
Yeah, keep telling yourself that in the mirror. It's all you know how to do. ;)

Your definition of "winning" is to keep posting endless messages until the other guy stops posting and then declare yourself the "winner". :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I'm still waiting to read your insights into future products.
 
I'm still waiting to read your insights into future products.

Maybe you could be more specific as to which future products you are referring to? I believe I've discussed the new AppleTV elsewhere (i.e. shame it doesn't support 4K when Roku and Amazon just released or will soon release 4K boxes. NVidia already has a 4K box out. Apple decided they would rather play catch-up in a couple of years instead. THAT is following the competition instead of leading it. It's becoming a habit with Apple to no longer innovate or lead, but to follow everyone else long after the fact. What other product would you like to hear about? Their new iMac coming out that is using the old chipset instead of the Skylake one Intel has already released? Why even bother at this point? Who wants to buy a machine that is obsolete on Day 1? It's the same problem all over again. Anyone with half a brain that can wait a bit will pass on it and wait for the Skylake version or buy something else from someone else if OS X isn't mandatory (Apple knows once you've invested in software for OS X you're unlikely to switch back on a whim and takes advantage of that while luring in Windows users with virtualization that they won't reciprocate for the Windows platform. Nice company policy for the users. ;)

El Capitan can't even remember the background screens I selected here when I switch to two monitor mode. It keeps defaulting back to the mountain photo I never used. With one monitor, it remembers. With two, it'll reset as soon as I log out and log back in. What future insight can I provide to you in regards to a broken operating system feature? I provided feedback today when I discovered it. How much would you like to bet Apple doesn't fix it any time soon?
 
It's becoming a habit with Apple to no longer innovate or lead, but to follow everyone else long after the fact.
It's not becoming a habit, Apple has always avoided spec wars and concentrated on improving the user experience. Nobody buys an Apple TV to be the first to have 4K. And Apple has to make and sign contracts before it can deliver any 4K content.
Their new iMac coming out that is using the old chipset instead of the Skylake one Intel has already released? Why even bother at this point?
Because a 4K Retina screen improves the user experience right now and before Christmas, while a new chipset won't be noticeable in most apps. Intel has already released, doesn't mean Skylake is available in the quantities Apple needs to upgrade their whole lineup.
Anyone with half a brain that can wait a bit will pass on it and wait for the Skylake version or buy something else from someone else if OS X isn't mandatory (Apple knows once you've invested in software for OS X you're unlikely to switch back on a whim and takes advantage of that while luring in Windows users with virtualization that they won't reciprocate for the Windows platform).
I'm not monetarily invested in OS X software. Nearly all the apps I use are from Apple and are for free. I'm emotionally invested in how much better the system "just works" compared to Windows.
Nice company policy for the users.
Yes it is. I love my Mac and I'm loyal. A few month earlier Skylake availability won't make me switch playttforms. Get real.
How much would you like to bet Apple doesn't fix it any time soon?
I bet the house that 99% of Mac users use just one monitor and those who use more than one never log out or shut down their computer. Wrong wallpaper on second screen is a problem most people don't have. It's just you who can't let it go. Meanwhile Microsoft removed (and returned) the Start button from Windows. How is that for a usability hurdle? Taking away the one menu that controlled everything since Windows 95. No Skylake chip can speed up your workflow, if you don't know how to start anymore.
 
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Steve Jobs in his own words:

tch.jpg


"We've done tons of user testing on this, and it turns out it doesn't work.
Touch surfaces don't want to be vertical.
·
It gives great demo but after a short period of time, you start to fatigue
and after an extended period of time, your arm wants to fall off.
·
It doesn't work, it's ergonomically terrible.
Touch surfaces want to be horizontal, hence pads.
·
For a notebook, that's why we're perfected our multitouch trackpads over the years,
because that's the best way we've found to get multitouch into a notebook.
·
We've also, in essence, put a trackpad - a multitouch track pad on the mouse with our magic mouse.
And we've recently come out with a pure play trackpad as well for our desktop users.
·
So this is how were going to use multitouch on our Mac products
because this (he points at someone touch laptop screen) doesn't work."

You may disagree with him (them), but don't pretend they didn't make their stand clear. It's still a vertical touch screen and Apple won't make one. A mouse moves horizontally, it's movements are only indirectly translated into a vertical pointer movement. A pencil or finger on a vertical touch screen is something completely different.​
Beauty of hybrid computer is that you don't use touch/pen when in "laptop mode", but you do when in "drawing in canvas mode". Of course Jobs didn't tell this to you. Same thing that Jobs did tell you that "fingers are the best UI in the world", but very few artists use fingerpaints.
This is what Apple could bring also to you: http://www.wacom.com/en-us/products/pen-displays/cintiq-27-qhd-touch
with consumer affordable price.
And they are pretty much doing it with applePencil. But not to osX, because they get better profits from iOS.
If osX would be a separate company from Apple, there would be already magnificent hybrid laptops which use osX.

I think we can all agree that too much greed will kill any company.
The question is, how much greed is good for Apple.
I think soldering ram is too much, mut most of people doesn't care, so Apple hasn't crossed the line yet.
I believe that when a GB of ram to ipad costs less than ten bucks, most of us who own air1, aren't happy that "split view" will cost us, not less than ten bucks, but a new ipad.
The question remains, how much is too much?
 
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And they are pretty much doing it with Apple Pencil. But not to OS X, because they get better profits from iOS. If OS X would be a separate company from Apple, there would be already magnificent hybrid laptops which use OS X.
Meanwhile in the real world:
Gartner Says Worldwide PC Shipments Declined 7.7 Percent in Third Quarter of 2015

Normally a new version of Windows would boost PC sales. Not so with Windows 10 in Q3 2015. The magnificent hybrid laptop is a shelf warmer. – The RTM build was delivered to OEM partners to image new devices on 15 July, and another build is being delivered to retailers to upgrade unsold devices currently running Windows 8.1. (link) – So there was every chance that this 2-in-1 fantasy could've become reality, but it didn't. On the other hand: – Mac sales hit a third-quarter record at 4.7 million units, up 9 percent over the year-ago quarter and 5 percent over Q2.

I really don't understand why you guys want to turn Apple into another Microsoft, when you can just buy your magnificent hybrid laptops from their inventor.
 
Bring back the 24-inch variant. My current iMac is a 24" late 2010 or something like that and i sure would like to buy a new one. 21" is too small and 27" too big.
 
I'd like that too, but I don't see them refreshing all those peripherals quietly. If we know anything it is how much they like to get on a stage and tell us something has twice the click power... ;)
I don't know.. They refreshed the iPad Mini 4 with one sentence in September, and it was one hell of a refresh.
 
I'd like that too, but I don't see them refreshing all those peripherals quietly. If we know anything it is how much they like to get on a stage and tell us something has twice the click power... ;)
The Magic Mouse was released alongside the new iMac in 2009 without an event. And that was a pretty big step up from the Mighty Mouse before it.
 
Meanwhile in the real world:
Gartner Says Worldwide PC Shipments Declined 7.7 Percent in Third Quarter of 2015

Normally a new version of Windows would boost PC sales. Not so with Windows 10 in Q3 2015. The magnificent hybrid laptop is a shelf warmer. – The RTM build was delivered to OEM partners to image new devices on 15 July, and another build is being delivered to retailers to upgrade unsold devices currently running Windows 8.1. (link) – So there was every chance that this 2-in-1 fantasy could've become reality, but it didn't. On the other hand: – Mac sales hit a third-quarter record at 4.7 million units, up 9 percent over the year-ago quarter and 5 percent over Q2.

I really don't understand why you guys want to turn Apple into another Microsoft, when you can just buy your magnificent hybrid laptops from their inventor.
Tell me again, where I can buy a hybrid with osX as its operating system?
 
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