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I've always imagined it as something like North Korea Lite.
I can’t say I’ve ever been to North Korea. I imagine it’s pretty terrible but I don’t know for sure. I think the problem is most people go to those countries acting like they’re entitled to something. If you go to another country and treat people with respect they will treat you with respect as well. The people that were very friendly and even though I was different so I attracted a little bit of attention it was positive attention. It’s no different than the USA in the sense they have cars and roads and restaurants and the normal things. It almost felt like the culture was from the 80s USA. The food was awesome! I’d say the people were more friendly than they are in the USA.

Sorry if this post is completely off-topic. If I’m being bad by saying all this please delete it ??
 
Why not? It makes them money and that’s their job. I don’t understand why people say corporations are greedy because they want to make a profit. Their whole purpose is to make money.

I agree. I think it’s generally a win/win. The criticism is valid though if it’s a business that sells pride gear or markets to LGBTQ but donates to anti-LGBTQ causes or politicians or doesn’t do anything to actually protect or support their LGBTQ employees. Then it looks greedy.
 
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What’s the point in a new Apple Watch when the series 8 is coming in 3 months?
Unless it’s a complete redesign the bands should still fit. I I think the current style bands go back to at least series 4 but maybe series 3
 
I still can’t even imagine buying an official apple band… they’re soooo overpriced and a band is something easily replicated by third parties, often for the better
True at $49 they are priced really high, but the Nike bands are really nice. I wonder if there are comparable Nike bands on Amazon?

Also, we should remember that there still are people out there (many actually) that are either terrible with money management or have more than they know what to spend it on. $49 probably seems like “just one meal out” for them, and $49 seems like a good “value” buy for those people, especially with “Apple” in the name.
 
I have every one so far but the latest one is gonna be difficult to top; eager to see what they’ve made.


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You must be rich.
 
I agree. I think it’s generally a win/win. The criticism is valid though if it’s a business that sells pride gear or markets to LGBTQ but donates to anti-LGBTQ causes or politicians or doesn’t do anything to actually protect or support their LGBTQ employees. Then it looks greedy.
Even then I don’t see why it’s valid criticism. If I start selling pride T-shirts am I all of a sudden obligated to lobby Congress? I mean I’m making a T-shirt, people like the T-shirt, people wear the T-shirt, everyone’s happy. I think it’s just business. I have lots of friends who would buy one so I might just do it! I’m sure there’s companies that have made hats with different political themes that some here may not agree with but the company has no skin in the game as they say. They’re just making a product for because there’s a market for it.
 
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True at $49 they are priced really high, but the Nike bands are really nice. I wonder if there are comparable Nike bands on Amazon?

Also, we should remember that there still are people out there (many actually) that are either terrible with money management or have more than they know what to spend it on. $49 probably seems like “just one meal out” for them, and $49 seems like a good “value” buy for those people, especially with “Apple” in the name.
$49? The band pictured is $99 and is worth it. It’s not about terrible money management. Just because someone buys nice things doesn’t mean they don’t know how to manage their money. Should I start shopping for clothes at Goodwill?

I’ve bought knock off bands and had to throw them in the trash because they’re garbage. I can’t say all of them are because I don’t know for sure but the ones I bought didn’t even stay on my wrist.
 
Even then I don’t see why it’s valid criticism. If I start selling pride T-shirts am I all of a sudden obligated to lobby Congress? I mean I’m making a T-shirt, people like the T-shirt, people wear the T-shirt, everyone’s happy. I think it’s just business. I have lots of friends who would buy one so I might just do it! I’m sure there’s companies that have made hats with different political themes that some here may not agree with but the company has no skin in the game as they say. They’re just making a product for because there’s a market for it.
And maybe there are people that just like rainbows, and miss the rainbow sheen of Rainbow Bright clothes ?
 
$49? The band pictured is $99 and is worth it. It’s not about terrible money management. Just because someone buys nice things doesn’t mean they don’t know how to manage their money. Should I start shopping for clothes at Goodwill?

I’ve bought knock off bands and had to throw them in the trash because they’re garbage. I can’t say all of them are because I don’t know for sure but the ones I bought didn’t even stay on my wrist.
You missed the other part that mentions people who have more money than they know how to spend.

It comes down to: at $99 (thanks) it doesn’t seem like a well reasoned decision to spend money that way.

Except, maybe, a nice present for someone. Or yourself… sure…. Okay so still a luxury, though.
 
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I love how that band looks, but post-pandemic, I finally was able to make my way to an Apple Store to try on a solo loop band for the first time... and I didn't like them. I don't know if my wrists are too skinny or what, but the size that fit around my wrist properly was uncomfortable to stretch around my hand to put it on. So it's the sport loops only for me.
 
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Just got a Watch notification - the pride face is now available and gives us an indication of what the band will look like
 
Even then I don’t see why it’s valid criticism. If I start selling pride T-shirts am I all of a sudden obligated to lobby Congress? I mean I’m making a T-shirt, people like the T-shirt, people wear the T-shirt, everyone’s happy. I think it’s just business. I have lots of friends who would buy one so I might just do it! I’m sure there’s companies that have made hats with different political themes that some here may not agree with but the company has no skin in the game as they say. They’re just making a product for because there’s a market for it.

I agree on the small business side. On the big business side, you’re not obligated to lobby Congress, but if you’re already lobbying Congress for anti-LGBTQ causes/politicians while also selling pride stuff, then yes, I’m going to criticize. Pride is a celebration of LGBTQ people standing up for their human rights. For a corporation to lobby anti-LGBTQ causes or politicians while selling pride products, to me that comes off as, “We’ll take your money, but **** your human rights.”

If you care about the fiduciary responsibility of the company to its shareholders/money making ability and purely nothing else, then sure, I can understand where there should only be the motive to make money. But if you’re looking at a company from not only a fiduciary point-of-view but also an ethical point-of-view, then I don’t get it. Even from a fiduciary standpoint, lobbying for anti-LGBTQ causes or politicians may be profitable for a company in the short-term, but in the long-term, it’s unsustainable and short-sighted. Just look at the uproar around Disney lately when they refused to take a position (which was taking a position) against Florida’s so-called “Don’t Say Gay” bill. Now they backtracked and have said they are going to make 50% of their characters LGBTQ or racial minorities.
 
Ah yes, the month of June where every corporation panders to gay people and they eat it up like candy.

Apple was one of the first corps in the US, if not the first, to offer same sex benefits to employees. They even went as far as to offer them ONLY to same sex partners, saying at the time that straight couples could get married if they wanted the benefits.
 
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Why not? It makes them money and that’s their job. I don’t understand why people say corporations are greedy because they want to make a profit. Their whole purpose is to make money.
Generally the problem comes in when July 1 hits and it all stops, and people unlike you or otherwise savvy folks are still believing that because a corp had Pride merchandising or advertising they were supportive of LGBTQ, and then in turn look at the rest of us and think we‘re lying or ungrateful somehow when we say corps are unsupportive or downright hostile.
 
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Even then I don’t see why it’s valid criticism. If I start selling pride T-shirts am I all of a sudden obligated to lobby Congress? I mean I’m making a T-shirt, people like the T-shirt, people wear the T-shirt, everyone’s happy. I think it’s just business. I have lots of friends who would buy one so I might just do it! I’m sure there’s companies that have made hats with different political themes that some here may not agree with but the company has no skin in the game as they say. They’re just making a product for because there’s a market for it.
I don’t think the criticism is really about making products for pride month and financially taking advantage of the time period. I think it has more to do with some companies marketing themselves as incredible allies who do a bunch of great things for the community during pride month, but come July 1st, they stop doing all these wonderful things. It’s the disingenuousness of it.
 
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You missed the other part that mentions people who have more money than they know how to spend.

It comes down to: at $99 (thanks) it doesn’t seem like a well reasoned decision to spend money that way.

Except, maybe, a nice present for someone. Or yourself… sure…. Okay so still a luxury, though.
I understand where you're coming from but it's no different than many other things. Maybe a watch band has no appeal to you so that's why you think it's wasteful but you would spend an extra $100 on something else (Shoes?). I mean the whole thing is a luxury from the start. The $700+ iPhone it's connected to could be a $100 android phone and the $400+ watch could be a $20 watch. I bought the dark blue (almost black) one not for looks but for comfort. It's worth it to me because I really like how it feels over the regular band. Of course still a luxury because yeah I wasn't going to die from the minor discomfort of the plastic band.
 
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